look at results.
results speak for themselves.
stop cherry picking 1 or 2 series where some foreigners like Stephano win vs Koreans. Look at overall results. the gap is huge and it's getting bigger.
With more patches and expansions it'll get worse.
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jj33
802 Posts
look at results. results speak for themselves. stop cherry picking 1 or 2 series where some foreigners like Stephano win vs Koreans. Look at overall results. the gap is huge and it's getting bigger. With more patches and expansions it'll get worse. | ||
mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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ETisME
12489 Posts
On April 06 2012 20:03 Assirra wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2012 19:53 ETisME wrote: On April 06 2012 19:47 Wildmoon wrote: On April 06 2012 19:46 ETisME wrote: On April 06 2012 19:38 karn1 wrote: In my opinion there are just three foreigners who might survive in Code S: Naniwa, Huk and Stephano. And I think these three are head and shoulders above the rest of the foreigners. Ret and Thorzain might be Code A material, but otherwise the Koreans dominate everything. Naniwa? Not too sure about that :S nor Huk or Stephano. HuK has stayed in code s for a while, he could had been in code s this session since he was placed highest in the up&down, but he got knocked down unfortunately stephano could make to code S too, he has the potential definitely. No offense to Huk but with the old system you only had to win 1 match in your group to stay in code S. and how many times have we heard that x player has the potential to make it to code S only to not even qualify fairly for code A and if he gets a seed to get stomped. but he didn't just stay in code S, he went quite far into code S And everyone did say he doesn't deserve to be in code S but somehow he managed to be placed in the highest in up&down. I really think people are being way too harsh on him | ||
mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On April 06 2012 23:50 jj33 wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments look at results. results speak for themselves. stop cherry picking 1 or 2 series where some foreigners like Stephano win vs Koreans. Look at overall results. the gap is huge and it's getting bigger. With more patches and expansions it'll get worse. This also only takes into account the winner and runner-up as well. If there was a running count of the number of series won by korean pros and loses vs foreigners, it would show even more dominance. | ||
Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
Only for the top 5-10 foreigners does strategy and build even come into effect in the game. | ||
Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
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jj33
802 Posts
On April 07 2012 00:04 Mr Showtime wrote: There's a handful of Koreans at the very top that nobody can compete with on a regular basis, but in general, the top foreigners can compete with the top Koreans now. top foreigners can't even make code A. so your statement is not true. Stephano and huk / naniwa can take series off top Koreans, but others have shown jack nothing. so if you mean by top foreigners by those three I mentioned sure. but koreans have like 12312321 players and up and comers you've never heard of. | ||
Fishes
United Kingdom47 Posts
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Rammstorm
Germany1434 Posts
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
Does that mean the skill gap has closed? Not really- while you might argue that the fact that there are foreigners who are able to compete at the highest level proves said closing of the skill gap, I'd like to point out that for every foreigner that can take games from the best Koreans there are dozens if not hundreds of "A class" (if you will) Koreans that are able to take games from the best foreigners. | ||
Muskox
Canada87 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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Swift118
United Kingdom335 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
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Xirroh
Canada146 Posts
maybe 5 could make it out of R32 in Code S there are a few more who would be code A A lot could compete in Code B. (offline) Overall, Koreans will be winning NA championships for a long time. | ||
Mario1209
United States1077 Posts
On April 06 2012 16:48 Caephus wrote: …and when they’re all knocked out, go MKP. made my day xD | ||
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