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As always, with topics as complex and sensitive as these, please take a minute to think before you post. If this thread is to stay open the following must be avoided:

- Disrespect to any of the parties involved (be it the bullies or bullied)

The above includes:
- Justifying or glorifying death or suicide as deserved
- Disregarding or belittling the circumstances that give rise to these situations

There's a reason why these discussions are always so sensitive. There are extremes on either side of the discussion that are disrespectful and narrow-minded in their own ways; the best approach is to carefully consider the other side before posting

Warnings and bans will be handed out for unreasoned and insensitive statements.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 27 2012 19:37 GMT
#21
Oh god this is terrible.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
February 27 2012 19:37 GMT
#22
Bully kids and this is what you get, the breaking point we've had an increasing number of threads like this on TL in 2011 stabbings and the like, sad when it's taken to this extreme but anyone who has been in that same position has the same urges and when the opportunity presents itself... This happens.
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tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
February 27 2012 19:37 GMT
#23
On February 28 2012 04:35 Silidons wrote:
here we go again with the army of people on TL who think that it's okay to shoot and kill someone for the only reason that they're an asshole. once again a person can't deal with their own problems and thinks that it is okay to kill someone for being bullied.

"but they made fun of me so i shot him" oh here is a fucking medal. anyone who does this should go to prison. welcome to earth, where you're going to encounter assholes your entire life. if you think the only way to deal with it is to shoot them, you're bat shit crazy and deserve to be in prison your entire life.

when i was in elementary i would get made fun of sometimes by random kids because my name is very different, but i didn't give a shit.


I think you're missing the basic point...nobody said it's okay to kill anyone. Nobody. o.o People have only said that they understand the shooter's feelings.
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HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
February 27 2012 19:38 GMT
#24
to be honest, I feel bad for the shooter as much as the victims... I mean, it's hard to imagine being pushed around to the point of breaking like that. I never had to deal with bullying, but I can't imagine how much shit one would have to take before resolving to that. As for the bullies, dumb life choices brought them there, but still really shitty for their families, like the family of the shooter. All parties made bad decisions and all are paying too high of a price.

Sad news.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 19:38:48
February 27 2012 19:38 GMT
#25
Why did bullying not lead to people shooting each other when i went to school... What the hell is going on.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
February 27 2012 19:39 GMT
#26
On February 28 2012 04:34 rhs408 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 04:28 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On February 28 2012 04:23 rhs408 wrote:
They say he was a quiet, nice kid. Also the group of students that he was shooting at apparently bullied him... if this is the case then my sympathy level for them goes down to almost zero.

man, don't say that. i hate seeing bullies get away with it, and i hate that they do it, but c'mon...

my sympathies go out to everyone involved, including the shooter. his life is over. stuff like this is so sad, it just makes you want to cry.

I said almost zero... no one deserves to be shot for bullying, but from someone who has been bullied in school, it is very difficult for me to feel sorry for them.

i've been bullied, and i have siblings and cousins and friends who were bullied mercilisly. its hard, and you wish that it couldn't happen. but one of these kids is dead and it's horrible.

i understand the feeling, i really do. but you have to try to think about it like this: this guys parents, friends, siblings, etc.... they will never see their son/brother/friend again. no one deserves to be shot like that. i feel so bad for everyone involved. im not trying to call down anyone for their feelings, im just saying to think about it.
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tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
February 27 2012 19:39 GMT
#27
On February 28 2012 04:38 DannyJ wrote:
Why did bullying not lead to people shooting each other when i went to school... What the hell is going on.


Easier for kids to obtain guns now, I guess.
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Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
February 27 2012 19:39 GMT
#28
Sad story. Good that there's been an increase in bullying awareness lately though. It's easy to blame it on the drugs, rock 'n roll and the VIDYA GAMEZ.
Bullying kills!
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
February 27 2012 19:40 GMT
#29
Seems like people are never going to learn to respect others. Same story repeating.
Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
February 27 2012 19:41 GMT
#30
On February 28 2012 04:39 Paperplane wrote:
Sad story. Good that there's been an increase in bullying awareness lately though. It's easy to blame it on the drugs, rock 'n roll and the VIDYA GAMEZ.
Bullying kills!
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 19:42:27
February 27 2012 19:41 GMT
#31
On February 28 2012 04:39 OmiDeLta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 04:38 DannyJ wrote:
Why did bullying not lead to people shooting each other when i went to school... What the hell is going on.


Easier for kids to obtain guns now, I guess.


Doubt it. I mean yeah sure, bullying has always made people do crazy shit, but doesn't there seem to be a FAR greater reaction to it nowadays in terms of violence and suicide, etc? Maybe I'm wrong.

I guess it's just a different age with things like facebook and shit which are somehow making it harder for kids. Sad.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
February 27 2012 19:41 GMT
#32
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 27 2012 19:42 GMT
#33
I guess the adults just can't ignore bullying anymore.
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Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 20:56:31
February 27 2012 19:42 GMT
#34
In before this topic devolves pointless into why the bullied kid shouldn't have shot them instead of discussing how to prevent bullying.

But it's probably passed that at this point

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Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
February 27 2012 19:43 GMT
#35
They said the shooter was a nice guy, easy to talk to etc... I guess they must have really pissed him off in order for him to shoot them.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 19:45:35
February 27 2012 19:43 GMT
#36
On February 28 2012 04:37 OmiDeLta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 04:35 Silidons wrote:
here we go again with the army of people on TL who think that it's okay to shoot and kill someone for the only reason that they're an asshole. once again a person can't deal with their own problems and thinks that it is okay to kill someone for being bullied.

"but they made fun of me so i shot him" oh here is a fucking medal. anyone who does this should go to prison. welcome to earth, where you're going to encounter assholes your entire life. if you think the only way to deal with it is to shoot them, you're bat shit crazy and deserve to be in prison your entire life.

when i was in elementary i would get made fun of sometimes by random kids because my name is very different, but i didn't give a shit.


I think you're missing the basic point...nobody said it's okay to kill anyone. Nobody. o.o People have only said that they understand the shooter's feelings.


Nope, that is the problem. I understand the social majority of this forum will always sympathize with the bullied first, but the act of murder is worse than bullying. Stating your explicit lack of sympathy for the murdered is a very poor stance to take and implies sympathy for the shooter against the bullies.

The bullied child needs much more help at this point, but there is no help for the dead. The obvious solution is preventative and it would be nice if we lived in a perfect world. Be more outraged at the parents of both sides, the school system itself, and society for both the tolerance of such things and the ease of which a child of compromised mental health (from said bullying) can get a gun.

I feel like in these sorts of threads there's too much of a kneejerk reaction to the situation.
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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 19:47:43
February 27 2012 19:43 GMT
#37
If the schools would grow some fucking balls take some accountability for what happens on their property, bullying would never happen, that's the saddest part about these shootings.

I was bullied myself and while I disagree with bullying obviously, shooting them isn't the answer. Nobody bothers to help these fucking kids then they wonder why it happened.

On February 28 2012 04:43 Tryndamere wrote:
They said the shooter was a nice guy, easy to talk to etc... I guess they must have really pissed him off in order for him to shoot them.

If you get abused everyday, you will only take it for so long until you snap. I don't care how nice someone is, if pushed hard enough they will reach a breaking point.
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 27 2012 19:45 GMT
#38
On February 28 2012 04:42 Integra wrote:
I guess the adults just can't ignore bullying anymore.


Bullying is always going to exist because very few teachers actually give a shit about it + the ones that do can't really do much.
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tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
February 27 2012 19:47 GMT
#39
On February 28 2012 04:41 ASNheat wrote:
We'll continue to see school shootings until the root of the problem is addressed. In the current US school system, students are taught to ignore bullies, and go on with their lives. However, in a lot of cases, the psychological damage still exists and instead of ignoring the anger and frustration they feel, it only festers inside them, eventually leading to school shootings. I believe that a total reversal of the current system should be used where children are taught to express their feelings, both negative and positive, in socially constructive activities. In my eyes, it's clearly evident that there is a much deeper societal problem at the root of things because school shootings have been almost a constant for many years now. It also doesn't help that they're plastered all over the news for potential copycats to see.


This too. When I was in middle school the faculty actually pushed me away from help claiming I needed to deal with it on my own and saying I was clinging to them too much and taking up too much of their time. That's why I got so messed up, I stopped reporting it (even when it went escalated to something even worse which I will not mention here) - because I thought nobody cared. That's why these kids snap; they honestly think they can't do anything else.
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Steemer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada98 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 19:49:23
February 27 2012 19:49 GMT
#40
Holy shit, I remember a thread on 4chan with pics of this guy before it happened. He was going around on Omegle or some shit telling people that he was going to do it. I distinctly remember these pictures, and people on /b/ trying to track him down, but I lost track of the thread. Fuck me.
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