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On February 27 2012 03:45 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:43 disciple wrote:
MLG asked for a price but OP said 10k. TL source just confirmed it. Actually, I think it was MLG that asked for 10k from the OP for the privilege of having his photo shown uncredited on stream. Just something I heard. You know, from sources n' stuff.
Hey a TL insider source just confirmed Hot_Bid, Wax and tree.hugger are the same person.
Checkmate.
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On February 27 2012 03:45 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:43 disciple wrote:
MLG asked for a price but OP said 10k. TL source just confirmed it. Actually, I think it was MLG that asked for 10k from the OP for the privilege of having his photo shown uncredited on stream. Just something I heard. You know, from sources n' stuff.
Got a good source that infact both parties asked for 10k.
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I understand your dissappointment itsjustatank, and I'm totally behind you. I'm thinking, that it's propably a case of rushed/hurried graphics layouting, rather than an intentional infringement on your copyright.
This does not make it any less embarrassing/unproffessional though.
Moreso, I find it hilarious how everyone is agreeing with OP on this, in these times of "Stop ACTA!" and "I'm not paying anything for music/movies/eSports/entertainment!".
This thread is a great example of why some sort of digital copyright revolution is needed. ACTA may not be the best solution, but something needs to be done to protect originators/artists/producers, in my humble opinion.
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On February 27 2012 03:45 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:43 disciple wrote:
MLG asked for a price but OP said 10k. TL source just confirmed it. Actually, I think it was MLG that asked for 10k from the OP for the privilege of having his photo shown uncredited on stream. Just something I heard. You know, from sources n' stuff.
My source also confirms that the OP asked MLG for 10k for the MLG/OP situation. Another sources informs me that I am handsome.
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On February 27 2012 03:46 frozenrb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:45 IntoTheBush wrote:On February 27 2012 03:27 VTArlock wrote:
I'm assuming you asked Sheth for his permission to take the picture? For someone in your position this probably isn't the most intelligent post...I highly doubt Team Liquid and Sheth wouldn't be as nearly successful or have any sponsors if they didn't allow photographs...I sure as hell wouldn't sponsor someone if they declined or opposed me snapping some photos. He didn't use that photo for commercial use.
And even if he did I don't think it's illegal to take photos at an event. If it is, paparazi media would not exist.
Moreso, I find it hilarious how everyone is agreeing with OP on this, in these times of "Stop ACTA!" and "I'm not paying anything for music/movies/eSports/entertainment!".
This thread is a great example of why some sort of digital copyright revolution is needed. ACTA may not be the best solution, but something needs to be done to protect originators/artists/producers, in my humble opinion.
You know that there are laws at this moment that work just fine to protect your ips. If he wants he can sue MLG and win. ACTA is something else.
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On February 27 2012 03:38 bovineblitz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:36 AKomrade wrote:
I read the "All Rights Reserved" clause (or how much of it I could find) and it only runs the licensing through Getty Images. What they say in the text seems to imply that it isn't "copyrighted" until an agreement is worked out between Flicker and Getty (not you or the person who wants to use your image), which seems like a huge bluff to scare other people out of using the images on the site.
In order to legitimately copyright something, you need to physically fill out the forms and pay for the copyright, not rely on a website who says that maybe they'll help you out if their partner feels like they can gain something from it (GETTY will license it, not you, so you don't own the rights to the picture, Getty does).
Additionally, the picture may or may not have been taken with Sheth's permission, so if HE wants, he can have it taken down and noone can have that picture. It also means your case would be dogshit in court, not that it wouldn't have been to begin with, since you didn't have a legitimate copyright to it.
Not too clear on the picture rights part of copyright law, but I'm pretty sure that it covers only the specific picture, not a cropped and reversed version. That's not how it works for photographs.
US Copyright Office says differently.
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On February 27 2012 03:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
FYI, this is not my specific expertise at MLG, but I do know this is covered in our TOS around tickets and via signage that is posted all over our venues.
Lol, looks like OP didn't read some fine print on his camera armed trip to MLG.
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On February 27 2012 03:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Not sure if you realize this, but you actually posted this on the SC2 General forum on teamliquid.net.
Always on point.
On February 27 2012 03:43 disciple wrote:
MLG asked for a price but OP said 10k. TL source just confirmed it.
Not sure it's wise to be saying things like this confirmed or unconfirmed.
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Just to be clear, the OP didn't get compensation or any credit whatsoever for the photo. I'm sure he would be have been fine if MLG had put up a small line crediting him.
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Free MLG lifetime membership for OP =D
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On February 27 2012 03:40 VTArlock wrote:
This thread is stupid, I'm sorry (not really). You're acting like MLG has violated your rights as person. I can understand the sentiment of you feeling slightly irked. You should of just sent an email to MLG asking them why they didn't ask you for permission and let them know next time you won't be so kind and expect some sort of recognition or compensation.
Instead your going to sit on your self-righteous chair; pretending to have never illegally downloaded music, never watched illegally downloaded porn. Torrented or limewire'd anything.
Of course you most definitely never used megaupload or played BW on iccup server.
I can appreciate your sentiment, however making this thread was wrong.
Yes MLG should of asked you, am I upset that they didn't?
Not anymore.
TeamLiquid Terms of Service
6. User Submitted Content
With respect to any content you elect to post on any area of the site, including blogs, forum comments and any and all other posts, you grant TeamLiquid a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to use and display such content worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology, without compensation or attribution to you.
TeamLiquid does not control or guarantee the accuracy, integrity or quality of user submitted content posted on the site. We take no responsibility and assume no liability for any user submitted content, or for any mistakes, defamation, slander, libel, omissions, falsehoods, obscenity, pornography, or profanity you may encounter. All content posted by users, including any opinions, advice or recommendations expressed, are those of the users providing such content and not those of TeamLiquid. Unless otherwise stated, we do not endorse any user submitted content or any opinion, recommendation or advice.
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Now this is assuming you did post this in SC2General. This all applies.
You granted Teamliquid.net a Sublicensable right to your content, and you accepted this when you signed up for this website.
The definition of Sub licensable is as follows
Sub licensable - is able to share the Content with its sponsors, affiliates and subcontractors..
So actually Teamliquid has all rights to your photo, this is assuming you did post this in SC2General, as a poster above me did say.
Actually Teamliquid could request compensation lol.
So OP stop being a complete doucher and offer a reasonable price, but now they probably won't give you a penny.
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On February 27 2012 03:27 VTArlock wrote:
I'm assuming you asked Sheth for his permission to take the picture?
That doesnt matter, when you are photographing people with celebrity status.
Like it or not, but Sheth is a "figure of public interest" same as a musician, actor or a politician. And just as paparazzi can photograph those ppl, you can photograph Sheth w/o having to ask for permission.
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not sure how you guys can be so serious with that apsolutely adorable picture of Sheth
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On February 27 2012 03:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Just to be clear, the OP didn't get compensation or any credit whatsoever for the photo. I'm sure he would be have been fine if MLG had put up a small line crediting him.
I have to agree with this. The OP never said anything about financial compensation. Everyone who's going after him for asking for credit taking the photo needs to relax.
It would cost MLG absolutely nothing to give this guy credit for the photograph, and that alone might be valuable to the OP as a reference for work at some point.
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Nice to know that at least Liquid does their business well ^^
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On February 27 2012 03:50 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:46 frozenrb wrote:On February 27 2012 03:45 IntoTheBush wrote:On February 27 2012 03:27 VTArlock wrote:
I'm assuming you asked Sheth for his permission to take the picture? For someone in your position this probably isn't the most intelligent post...I highly doubt Team Liquid and Sheth wouldn't be as nearly successful or have any sponsors if they didn't allow photographs...I sure as hell wouldn't sponsor someone if they declined or opposed me snapping some photos. He didn't use that photo for commercial use. And even if he did I don't think it's illegal to take photos at an event. If it is, paparazi media would not exist.
Exactly. A lot of interweb lawyers in here. You know what OP, take to a real lawyer. You'll get better advice.
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On February 27 2012 03:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
You can email me directly if you would like to discuss this issue instead of posting a forum thread. My email address is aa@mlgpro.com.
FYI, this is not my specific expertise at MLG, but I do know this is covered in our TOS around tickets and via signage that is posted all over our venues.
Pretty much this. If OP contacted MLG instead of posting it on TL he would have been offered a polite explanation/apology with compensation. Instead he pulls this publicity stunt. I hope he gets nothing but an empty apology.
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On February 27 2012 03:50 yarkO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:45 tree.hugger wrote:On February 27 2012 03:43 disciple wrote:
MLG asked for a price but OP said 10k. TL source just confirmed it. Actually, I think it was MLG that asked for 10k from the OP for the privilege of having his photo shown uncredited on stream. Just something I heard. You know, from sources n' stuff. My source also confirms that the OP asked MLG for 10k for the MLG/OP situation. Another sources informs me that I am handsome.
ESFI just posted an article quoting an annoymous confidant of yarkO who said "No way he's handsome. My god, yarkO is the ugliest person alive and he is also a genocidal maniac."
yarkO was never contacted in the creating of this story. Submitted to reddit. Also, give me 10k.
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MLG should watch it's steps more closely now. If they want everyone to pay them, they should pay others too. It's not charity anymore.
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Damn, thats a good Sheth photo though. Very handsome nerd baller.
Idk much about copyright infringement, but isnt reversed images fair use?
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