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mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
February 26 2012 18:43 GMT
#101
I find quite amusing that people use the "ITS NOT LIKE YOU NEVER DOWNLOADED A SONG IN YOUR LIFE AMIRITE", trying to have a discussion is pretty hard when a copyright infrigiment thread turns into a "DID YOU EVER PIRATE" thread..
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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9158 Posts
February 26 2012 18:43 GMT
#102
On February 27 2012 03:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Not sure if you realize this, but you actually posted this on the SC2 General forum on teamliquid.net.


If it needs to be in blogs, someone should move it. I didn't know proper forum for something like this.
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qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
February 26 2012 18:43 GMT
#103
On February 27 2012 03:35 MrHighlight wrote:
So, how many of you people here defending this guys stance have never downloaded music? Anyone?

KK, /thread.

Naah, man. The more correct comparison here would be: "How many of you people defending this guy's stance have never _uploaded_ music?" Though this still isn't the real thing, as a music uploader doesn't make profit, while MLG does with this picture.
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
February 26 2012 18:43 GMT
#104
You can email me directly if you would like to discuss this issue instead of posting a forum thread. My email address is aa@mlgpro.com.

FYI, this is not my specific expertise at MLG, but I do know this is covered in our TOS around tickets and via signage that is posted all over our venues.
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Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
February 26 2012 18:43 GMT
#105
How about contacting MLG directly before tar and feathering them on TL?
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 26 2012 18:43 GMT
#106
On February 27 2012 03:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Not sure if you realize this, but you actually posted this on the SC2 General forum on teamliquid.net.


haha, my thoughts exactly
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GatorGar
Profile Joined December 2011
Somalia77 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 18:44:42
February 26 2012 18:44 GMT
#107
On February 27 2012 03:38 McKTenor13 wrote:
You're just trying to hurt MLG's reputation and make them look bad.


They did that all on their own my good man. Even if they did not do something legally wrong, which is yet to be determined by an actual intellectual property lawyer, MORALLY it is just a case of them issuing further abuse to our community.

MLG is a business; they are playing a totally different ballgame. A foul like this is just in such poor taste.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 18:46:23
February 26 2012 18:44 GMT
#108
On February 27 2012 03:42 VillageBC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 03:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Not sure if you realize this, but you actually posted this on the SC2 General forum on teamliquid.net.


I've seen your old quotes. You can troll better then that. =)

Not trolling, just being subtle. How about this: what is it doing here? It's a blog.

edit: Just to be clear, I think the OP has a legitimate issue and is rightly upset. I just don't see why it's posted here. Blog about it for emotional side of it and contact MLG for the professional side of it. This really has nothing to do with SC2.
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Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
February 26 2012 18:44 GMT
#109
On February 27 2012 03:39 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 03:33 djukger wrote:
in germany we have a law whereby you cant take photographs of single persons without their permission, you have to have to have more than 5 ppl on the photo, i think.

btw did you ask the pros that you can commercialize your photos of them?
MLG could probably just have asked you, but see is this way, probably some graphix guy just took the photo and didnt think about it because liquidpedia is basicly open source for SC2 :D


this law fits for NOT PUBLIC persons in a situation where they don't put them self into public.

If you play on a public tournament and are kind of know, in this community you are not a private person anymore.
You also go there, because you get paid to advertise products in public.
So you gave up your right on your own picture.


Actually only to a very small extent, and depending a lot on the events in question. Wether celebrities have a right to their own image or not is still a very shady area and hotly contested in court quite often, but that is beside the point.

The picture was taken at an MLG event, without a lot of research i honestly have no clue if they reserved any specific rights to photographs or videos taken at such an event (though it is standard practice) so we honestly don't even know if a copyright to this photograph can even legally exist.

In addition we have no proof that if it can exist it was established properly. Frankly the OP would have been much better served if he had contacted MLG for an explanation instead of trying to go to a board where 99% of the people have absolutly no clue about the legal background.
AA.spoon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium331 Posts
February 26 2012 18:45 GMT
#110
Em, atleast a compensation of MLG. But better sue them. Especially since their streams aren't free anymore.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
February 26 2012 18:45 GMT
#111
On February 27 2012 03:43 disciple wrote:
MLG asked for a price but OP said 10k. TL source just confirmed it.

Actually, I think it was MLG that asked for 10k from the OP for the privilege of having his photo shown uncredited on stream.

Just something I heard. You know, from sources n' stuff.
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IntoTheBush
Profile Joined July 2010
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 19:04:15
February 26 2012 18:45 GMT
#112
On February 27 2012 03:27 VTArlock wrote:
I'm assuming you asked Sheth for his permission to take the picture?

For someone in your position this probably isn't the most appropriate post...I highly doubt Team Liquid and Sheth wouldn't be as nearly successful or have any sponsors if they didn't allow photographs...I sure as hell wouldn't sponsor someone if they declined or opposed me snapping some photos.
opaque
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation89 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 18:46:03
February 26 2012 18:45 GMT
#113
This seems like content for the pitchforks over at reddit. Contact MLG directly and don't be so dramatic about it.
What
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
February 26 2012 18:45 GMT
#114
On February 27 2012 03:43 itsjustatank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 03:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Not sure if you realize this, but you actually posted this on the SC2 General forum on teamliquid.net.


If it needs to be in blogs, someone should move it. I didn't know proper forum for something like this.


The proper thing to do would have been to contact MLG first instead of whining publicly.

Anyhow, it is a little amusing to me MLG can't be bothered to take and use photographs from their own professional crew.
frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
February 26 2012 18:46 GMT
#115
On February 27 2012 03:45 IntoTheBush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 03:27 VTArlock wrote:
I'm assuming you asked Sheth for his permission to take the picture?

For someone in your position this probably isn't the most intelligent post...I highly doubt Team Liquid and Sheth wouldn't be as nearly successful or have any sponsors if they didn't allow photographs...I sure as hell wouldn't sponsor someone if they declined or opposed me snapping some photos.


He didn't use that photo for commercial use.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
February 26 2012 18:46 GMT
#116
On February 27 2012 03:36 GertHeart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 03:30 ch33psh33p wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:29 GertHeart wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:27 itsjustatank wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:26 nihlon wrote:
If you ask them not to use it they'll probably not use it anymore. Any more would seem like a bit of an overreaction and a waste of your time.


It already aired, there is no way to ask them to remove it. The damage has been done.


The damage has been done? You just got publicity to your name, your name just got out there. What damage? This is all positive towards you. You're making this worse, and people will see you in a more negative light than anything.


No, people WONT see him in a negative light. Look at this thread, the only people being seen in a negative light are posters like you, who feel that LEGAL COPYRIGHT LAWS don't apply to MLG just becuaes they're "helping" eSports? So what, its okay to screw over everyone else? Stop being so selective in your vision. Its really disappointing to think its okay to shit on the little guys.


Negative, It's not about MLG for me here. It's about the guy got free advertising regardless of the source of it. That's the truth, he just got free advertising, and is now putting himself out there telling people about it more, so now he is making his name more known. Problem is, he is bringing drama with it. People won't want to hire him more if he has drama, unnecessary drama.


he didn't got free advertisement because MLG didn't refer to him as the photographer. The only way someone could notice that it was his photo is through this thread.
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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
February 26 2012 18:47 GMT
#117
Yay, pitchforks! it was about time!
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PureBalls
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria383 Posts
February 26 2012 18:47 GMT
#118
On February 27 2012 03:24 jarf1337 wrote:
Someone isn't "taking photos for fun" if they are being so lame about their photo being used on a versus screen. You should quit pretending there isn't something at stake for yourself here.

You know what, we can expand on you logic, and say that it is OK to restream and watch the MLG for free.

If you can take it, its free, right?
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
February 26 2012 18:48 GMT
#119
In any case it is a really good picture. o.O
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Shameless
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands349 Posts
February 26 2012 18:48 GMT
#120
On February 27 2012 03:47 PureBalls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 03:24 jarf1337 wrote:
Someone isn't "taking photos for fun" if they are being so lame about their photo being used on a versus screen. You should quit pretending there isn't something at stake for yourself here.

You know what, we can expand on you logic, and say that it is OK to restream and watch the MLG for free.

If you can take it, its free, right?

Whehe, i agree, restreaming in mirrored view is totally acceptable XD
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