On January 28 2012 15:58 Bashion wrote: Like i said before, im not his fan. But while i was watching his stream with Tod coaching him the other day, i was thinking "Desrow should get into a real team.". I wasnt even thinking about EG or Liquid - or had any idea he was close to part ways with legion-, but a more modest one, like checksix, for example. Even tho he is no Huk, he is whiling to put himself out there, train hard and become a real good player. If he joins a real team - sorry Legion -, he wont lack motivation. Its totally different when a company wants to invest and trust you. I bet he would practice even harder and try to become better faster.
But. please, Desrow, stop making nonsense showmatches. They are not a good way to improve, man. It only hurts your image as a player. And we all know how important image is.
Good luck, man.
I'm sure we read over that as Team Legion and don't really take much offence to you saying we are not a "real" team. But if Legion is not a "real" team then I don't know what is... lol
[B]On January 28 2012 15:25 TylerThaCreator wrote:I think it's far more likely that you are just a moron. DesRow has posted over and over again that he's a changed person and has demonstrated this change through his actions with the community from when he posted those blogs months ago.
Actions like abusing mods on Korean players Stream to set up matches? O.o
Its like.. i wanna like desrow, he's really committed to doing what he wants to do, he's moved to korea and he's trying his best, and i respect that, but i have yet to see anything that shows he's a "changed person" from that kid that brags about ladder wins & BM's/acts like a dick.
Hopefully one day he'll start achieving things and Earn some respect back on TL. ^_^
Abusing mods o.o? And yes he has changed. The last "brag blog" was some 6/7 months ago, his play has improved and he doesn't really rage or blame the game anymore. Watch his stream for a while, I haven't seen him "BM/act like a dick" for a very long time. Do you have any recent examples?
i say we give desrow the benefit of the doubt, if indeed he is trying to be a better person and he really wants to step up his game, then lets give him the shot he wants.
On January 28 2012 07:41 Laikan wrote: Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.
Oh hey another notorious 1 post person in a desrow topic, classic
What does that have to do with it? I agree with him. What about you? You have 300 post less then me.
See how that logic works?
Well the thing is, desrow always has a lot of people posting in his topics with very low postcounts, like <30 and those people only post on his topics as well, so it's kind of general knowledge that these are clones. I'm not saying postcounts are important, and if you had some sense you would've gotten my point. Further more, you are affiliated with team legion so your opinion is not very objective either.
I've been on the team 3 days, and haven't met desrow. Your "point' is stupid, because he's not a top level player doesn't mean he deserves the stupid, immature hate he's getting. Every NA player announced on the MLG invite list doesn't get shit on as much as desrow and he's in the same level as all of them. It's people like you who circle jerk the korean fanboyism and seem to think that having a flourishing US scene is a bad thing, and shit on players who don't win every major tournament as talent-less nobodies.
Whats the point of having a amateur scene?Whats the point of people playing this game for fun? What's the point of trying to get better? At least some NA people (desrow, shadow come to mind) are trying to make something of themselves in Korea. If you don't like him don't post, or any non-top level player that is. Don't be stupid, a good amateur scene is great for eSports, some people like to see other people do good other then just Koreans.
Same level as the MLG invites? LOL JOKES EVERYWHERE. Moving to Korea is very clearly not being in the "amateur scene". Pretty sure people who throw everything away for a video game and move to the other side of the world don't consider themselves striving to be amateurs.
For all of you saying he doesn't got the talent to make. Christ, I'm not even a Desrow fan but making statements like "he does not have the talent for it" is just stupid.
In my opinion there is no such thing as talent. Do the holy god up there, blessed be his name, allow some people to become sc2 pros by giving them the talent for it? Don't think so... You become god at something through hard work and understanding of what you're doing. Maybe Desrow will reach that point some day, maybe not.
Desrow is incredibly dedicated and is really working for his dream to come true nd that's something all people should respect.
On January 28 2012 07:41 Laikan wrote: Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.
Oh hey another notorious 1 post person in a desrow topic, classic
What does that have to do with it? I agree with him. What about you? You have 300 post less then me.
See how that logic works?
Well the thing is, desrow always has a lot of people posting in his topics with very low postcounts, like <30 and those people only post on his topics as well, so it's kind of general knowledge that these are clones. I'm not saying postcounts are important, and if you had some sense you would've gotten my point. Further more, you are affiliated with team legion so your opinion is not very objective either.
I've been on the team 3 days, and haven't met desrow. Your "point' is stupid, because he's not a top level player doesn't mean he deserves the stupid, immature hate he's getting. Every NA player announced on the MLG invite list doesn't get shit on as much as desrow and he's in the same level as all of them. It's people like you who circle jerk the korean fanboyism and seem to think that having a flourishing US scene is a bad thing, and shit on players who don't win every major tournament as talent-less nobodies.
Whats the point of having a amateur scene?Whats the point of people playing this game for fun? What's the point of trying to get better? At least some NA people (desrow, shadow come to mind) are trying to make something of themselves in Korea. If you don't like him don't post, or any non-top level player that is. Don't be stupid, a good amateur scene is great for eSports, some people like to see other people do good other then just Koreans.
Do you even know desrow? the reason TL vets here does not like him is because he constantly brags about himself beating big name players, posting replays all over TL without letting his followers know his overall records against all those ppl in his replays that he brag about.
It doesn't mean it is ok for desrow to do this Just because not many of the pros speak up and stand up to desrow, they simply have more class. I on the other hand just another no name noob who is terrible at the game, and I too like desrow just happened to have no class. So i'm doing this for all the other people desrow bragged about beating.
And no this is not hate form me at all, i'm just some guy who loves to watch the world burn, and people pissed off,
I think it's far more likely that you are just a moron. DesRow has posted over and over again that he's a changed person and has demonstrated this change through his actions with the community from when he posted those blogs months ago. What is wrong with him posting replay packs vs pros? That's literally what every single pro does as well (off the top of my head I can recall that KawaiiRice, TeamLiquid members etc.) by request from their fans/community. Get over yourself buddy, lmao. You seriously have no idea what you're talking about.
To put it in simple words: You misunderstand the purpose of him posting replay packs - it's not to brag about who he's beaten but rather for people to learn from his builds vs. actual well known players (showing that said builds and playstyle is viable).
The problem isn't the replay packs. It's the fact that he's too much of a pussy to show losses and wins together.
Well the thing is, desrow always has a lot of people posting in his topics with very low postcounts, like <30 and those people only post on his topics as well, so it's kind of general knowledge that these are clones. I'm not saying postcounts are important, and if you had some sense you would've gotten my point. Further more, you are affiliated with team legion so your opinion is not very objective either.
Too bad I'm not a clone. Maybe it's just that I don't stroll Team Liquids forums? When I saw that his fan page on facebook had a link to this I subscribed to post to all the people feeling like they have to bash people like they are any better. Also I am part of The Legion community so it pertains to me. But thank you for feeling like you have to add your worthless opinion as to why I posted here. =]
Edit: Just because we are a part of Team Legion does not make us biased or anything. Our opinions mean just as much as everyone elses, lol. He's not even with us anymore so you make no sense.
So you are just one of the nameless derps who has his cock in their mouth 24 hours a day. Thanks for your insight.
On January 28 2012 18:09 Teodice wrote: For all of you saying he doesn't got the talent to make. Christ, I'm not even a Desrow fan but making statements like "he does not have the talent for it" is just stupid.
In my opinion there is no such thing as talent. Do the holy god up there, blessed be his name, allow some people to become sc2 pros by giving them the talent for it? Don't think so... You become god at something through hard work and understanding of what you're doing. Maybe Desrow will reach that point some day, maybe not.
Desrow is incredibly dedicated and is really working for his dream to come true nd that's something all people should respect.
it doesn't matter if you think talent exists or not LOL. You clearly have never actually had skill in anything in your life.
hey desrow, i hope you accomplish your goals in sc2 and life and i wish you the best luck. everyone who is bashing on a person who follows his passion, never had a passion.
To sum this up ..."TL-vets" saying he is a bad player and they dont like him because of some BM and his "attention-whoring".
New Players mostly like him cause he is fighting for his "pro gamer" dream and makes a lot of vlogs streams etc. From my point of view...most people can not handle his constant activity here.
It's just very bm to make a blog every time you beat a pro on ladder, even sheth got a bit angry in one of desrow's topics. But, he said he had changed since then bla bla, wrong, he harassed revival and/or his mods to get him a showmatch against him and was harassing major for revival's skype info. He's still bm, just not on stream and still an attention whore.
On January 28 2012 05:31 CounterOrder wrote: GL desRow.
GL community. You wont survive the hate machine you are. Worse than fucking high schoolers.
Amen! Best of luck to both legion and desrow! People really need to support foreign players more, it's sad seeing so much hate towards really hard working and improving foreign players. -_-
desRow has only replied twice in this thread, which I take as a sign of improvement. That means he's probably practicing and that he no longer cares about what people think about him, which is important if you're going to be competitive at a high level.
On January 28 2012 18:09 Teodice wrote: For all of you saying he doesn't got the talent to make. Christ, I'm not even a Desrow fan but making statements like "he does not have the talent for it" is just stupid.
In my opinion there is no such thing as talent. Do the holy god up there, blessed be his name, allow some people to become sc2 pros by giving them the talent for it? Don't think so... You become god at something through hard work and understanding of what you're doing. Maybe Desrow will reach that point some day, maybe not.
Desrow is incredibly dedicated and is really working for his dream to come true nd that's something all people should respect.
it doesn't matter if you think talent exists or not LOL. You clearly have never actually had skill in anything in your life.
My skill lies in not BMing in a discussion since it gains no one being mad for something posted on a forum. Christ man, chill out.
What's your skill btw? Being polite is clearly not one of em.
Anyway. Let's see how well it goes for Desrow. Hopefully he'll be able to increase his skill. Otherwise time to pack the bags. Let's see what the future holds for us
On January 28 2012 18:35 DanceOnCreep wrote: hey desrow, i hope you accomplish your goals in sc2 and life and i wish you the best luck. everyone who is bashing on a person who follows his passion, never had a passion.
They are bashing on an asshat, not the player who follows his passion. Just saying.
On January 28 2012 13:35 rei wrote: Do you even know desrow? the reason TL vets here does not like him is because he constantly brags about himself beating big name players, posting replays all over TL without letting his followers know his overall records against all those ppl in his replays that he brag about.
Why are you taking issue with the 5 reply pack links? Its not like he's bragging about beating notable players in those topics just listing some notable players he faced (win or lose). Is posting replay packs (GM/'pro' players) frowned upon here? I'm not sure if you're taking issue with where (forum section) they were posted, the fact there have been 5 topics posted, or something else? Personally I appreciate players such as desrow and illusion making these replay packs and bringing them to our attention with a TL thread. I can't see any of the bragging you described in the OTs of those 5 replay pack links...
On January 28 2012 18:09 Teodice wrote: For all of you saying he doesn't got the talent to make. Christ, I'm not even a Desrow fan but making statements like "he does not have the talent for it" is just stupid.
In my opinion there is no such thing as talent. Do the holy god up there, blessed be his name, allow some people to become sc2 pros by giving them the talent for it? Don't think so... You become god at something through hard work and understanding of what you're doing. Maybe Desrow will reach that point some day, maybe not.
Desrow is incredibly dedicated and is really working for his dream to come true nd that's something all people should respect.
it doesn't matter if you think talent exists or not LOL. You clearly have never actually had skill in anything in your life.
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Wow that was waaaay to harsh man! Just relax. You really seem to hate or dislike desrow. If you do! just hold it for yourself its better that way.
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