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ManTrain
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark126 Posts
January 27 2012 21:35 GMT
#101
Oh man, desRow threads never fail to give me a good laugh.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 27 2012 21:36 GMT
#102
On January 28 2012 05:58 SamsLiST wrote:
Show nested quote +
We are not even talking about LAN events that are different world when compared to ladder


different world. exactly-

so y u care so much about rank 10 masters???


Because good players are very highly ranked without even trying.
Do you think MVP cares about ladder? Well, he's ranked #30...in GM, not in his masters division as desrow is.

But at one point, to play SC2 you need something else other than motivation and hard work, and I'm afraid desrow doesn't have this. But may he work the hardest he possibly can, at least he will become the best player he can be.
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
January 27 2012 21:38 GMT
#103
hey gl desrow! hope you find a new home soon!
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
January 27 2012 21:38 GMT
#104
On January 28 2012 06:36 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 05:58 SamsLiST wrote:
We are not even talking about LAN events that are different world when compared to ladder


different world. exactly-

so y u care so much about rank 10 masters???


Because good players are very highly ranked without even trying.
Do you think MVP cares about ladder? Well, he's ranked #30...in GM, not in his masters division as desrow is.

But at one point, to play SC2 you need something else other than motivation and hard work, and I'm afraid desrow doesn't have this. But may he work the hardest he possibly can, at least he will become the best player he can be.


I actually believe desrow will become really good if he keeps practicing very hard as he is rightnow. He is definitely very motivated.. pretty sure it will be rewarded at some point. Good luck desrow! You're not at the highest level rightnow but keep practicing hard and just think about the game!
.Sic.
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)497 Posts
January 27 2012 21:40 GMT
#105
On January 28 2012 04:18 Kergy wrote:
Good decision from the team.

I don't understand his decision of staying in Korea; he never got noticed in EU/NA, doesn't speak a single korean word, hangs out with foreigners all the time and all the 'practice' he gets is from ladder. I seriously don't see how somebody would expect to improve like that unless it's the air or water in Korea that makes their players so good, which I don't think is the case.


actually... i stayed in korea this summer for 3-4 months and didnt play a single game of sc2. When I got back I went from diamond to top 200 masters with 60% win rate in a month. True story yo.
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Laikan
Profile Joined January 2012
3 Posts
January 27 2012 22:41 GMT
#106
Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
January 27 2012 23:01 GMT
#107
On January 28 2012 07:41 Laikan wrote:
Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.

Oh hey another notorious 1 post person in a desrow topic, classic
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
January 27 2012 23:04 GMT
#108
On January 28 2012 08:01 dre2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 07:41 Laikan wrote:
Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.

Oh hey another notorious 1 post person in a desrow topic, classic


What does that have to do with it? I agree with him. What about you? You have 300 post less then me.


See how that logic works?
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
January 27 2012 23:08 GMT
#109
I think what a lot of people are saying is that you don't simply become a progamer out of want, you need a decent amount of talent to succeed. It's desrow's future and he can do with it as he pleases.
Marines > everything
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 23:10:31
January 27 2012 23:09 GMT
#110
On January 28 2012 08:04 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 08:01 dre2k wrote:
On January 28 2012 07:41 Laikan wrote:
Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.

Oh hey another notorious 1 post person in a desrow topic, classic


What does that have to do with it? I agree with him. What about you? You have 300 post less then me.


See how that logic works?

Well the thing is, desrow always has a lot of people posting in his topics with very low postcounts, like <30 and those people only post on his topics as well, so it's kind of general knowledge that these are clones. I'm not saying postcounts are important, and if you had some sense you would've gotten my point. Further more, you are affiliated with team legion so your opinion is not very objective either.
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
January 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#111
QxG.Desrow for Code A?
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
January 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#112
On January 28 2012 08:04 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 08:01 dre2k wrote:
On January 28 2012 07:41 Laikan wrote:
Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.

Oh hey another notorious 1 post person in a desrow topic, classic


What does that have to do with it? I agree with him. What about you? You have 300 post less then me.


See how that logic works?


I may be wrong, but I think his point had more to do with Desrow commonly sending his stream viewers to go defend him in any threads where people are bashing on him. In this case, the guy only posting to defend desrow makes this probably another case of that happening.
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
January 27 2012 23:20 GMT
#113
i wonder what team he will join
SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 23:28:12
January 27 2012 23:28 GMT
#114
On January 28 2012 08:12 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 08:04 nGBeast wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:01 dre2k wrote:
On January 28 2012 07:41 Laikan wrote:
Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.

Oh hey another notorious 1 post person in a desrow topic, classic


What does that have to do with it? I agree with him. What about you? You have 300 post less then me.


See how that logic works?


I may be wrong, but I think his point had more to do with Desrow commonly sending his stream viewers to go defend him in any threads where people are bashing on him. In this case, the guy only posting to defend desrow makes this probably another case of that happening.


And the fact that he probably tells them to go defend him. I highly doubt there's a legion of DesRow fans lurking, ready to make an account in an instant the minute his honor is insulted.
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-Doji-
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium127 Posts
January 28 2012 00:25 GMT
#115
On January 28 2012 08:28 SC2NeCro wrote:

And the fact that he probably tells them to go defend him. I highly doubt there's a legion of DesRow fans lurking, ready to make an account in an instant the minute his honor is insulted.


You should hang out in his chat more
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nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 00:35:18
January 28 2012 00:32 GMT
#116
On January 28 2012 08:09 dre2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 08:04 nGBeast wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:01 dre2k wrote:
On January 28 2012 07:41 Laikan wrote:
Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.

Oh hey another notorious 1 post person in a desrow topic, classic


What does that have to do with it? I agree with him. What about you? You have 300 post less then me.


See how that logic works?

Well the thing is, desrow always has a lot of people posting in his topics with very low postcounts, like <30 and those people only post on his topics as well, so it's kind of general knowledge that these are clones. I'm not saying postcounts are important, and if you had some sense you would've gotten my point. Further more, you are affiliated with team legion so your opinion is not very objective either.


I've been on the team 3 days, and haven't met desrow. Your "point' is stupid, because he's not a top level player doesn't mean he deserves the stupid, immature hate he's getting. Every NA player announced on the MLG invite list doesn't get shit on as much as desrow and he's in the same level as all of them. It's people like you who circle jerk the korean fanboyism and seem to think that having a flourishing US scene is a bad thing, and shit on players who don't win every major tournament as talent-less nobodies.

Whats the point of having a amateur scene?Whats the point of people playing this game for fun? What's the point of trying to get better? At least some NA people (desrow, shadow come to mind) are trying to make something of themselves in Korea. If you don't like him don't post, or any non-top level player that is. Don't be stupid, a good amateur scene is great for eSports, some people like to see other people do good other then just Koreans.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 00:39:21
January 28 2012 00:36 GMT
#117
so much h8te in the world these days, tl peeps be hatin on everything/every1 24/7

chillax and whine about mutas instead, would b much more productive.. no srsly help a brother out, im tryin to make a livin up in this shiznite but muts be too op for me to make some bread in this biz
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Dubsy
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada186 Posts
January 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#118
I would imagine he has some family money or some other means to support himself in Korea (I doubt he has a job there, but it's plausible), so good on him for staying I guess. It's a little strange because he can find his level of competition in NA, but hey the best of the best are in Korea atm, so if that's your goal it's not a bad place to be. I personally don't see him getting there but maybe this is his best chance.

It's kinda like the motto "dress for the job you want, not the one you have."
With a right-left, right-left you're toothless, And then you say "Goddamn they ruthless!"
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 28 2012 00:40 GMT
#119
On January 28 2012 09:32 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 08:09 dre2k wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:04 nGBeast wrote:
On January 28 2012 08:01 dre2k wrote:
On January 28 2012 07:41 Laikan wrote:
Heh, how about instead of everyone that is hating on desRow typing what they think is facts. Just shut up and let the man play. Your negativity isn't doing anything to him obviously so your goal is not being accomplished. Also who cares if you're not trying to make a living playing video games like him. This thread is not about you. ALSO I seriously doubt any of you people bashing desRow on how he has not done anything in sc2 have done something yourself? I have never heard of any of you that are bashing desRow. If you can't beat him in 1v1 then why would you talk about his skill level yourself? If he hasn't done anything in Starcraft 2 that does not fit your needs then maybe that is why he is in Korea? Everyone has to start somewhere and desRow is a very good player, and he is only getting better.

Oh hey another notorious 1 post person in a desrow topic, classic


What does that have to do with it? I agree with him. What about you? You have 300 post less then me.


See how that logic works?

Well the thing is, desrow always has a lot of people posting in his topics with very low postcounts, like <30 and those people only post on his topics as well, so it's kind of general knowledge that these are clones. I'm not saying postcounts are important, and if you had some sense you would've gotten my point. Further more, you are affiliated with team legion so your opinion is not very objective either.


I've been on the team 3 days, and haven't met desrow. Your "point' is stupid, because he's not a top level player doesn't mean he deserves the stupid, immature hate he's getting. Every NA player announced on the MLG invite list doesn't get shit on as much as desrow and he's in the same level as all of them. It's people like you who circle jerk the korean fanboyism and seem to think that having a flourishing US scene is a bad thing, and shit on players who don't win every major tournament as talent-less nobodies.

Whats the point of having a amateur scene?Whats the point of people playing this game for fun? What's the point of trying to get better? At least some NA people (desrow, shadow come to mind) are trying to make something of themselves in Korea. If you don't like him don't post, or any non-top level player that is. Don't be stupid, a good amateur scene is great for eSports, some people like to see other people do good other then just Koreans.

There are people in the invite list for NA that are a lot better than desRow, just saying.
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nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 00:43:58
January 28 2012 00:43 GMT
#120
If you take out the Euros/Koreans playing on the NA qualifier then no, nobody there except kiwikaki who hasn't really done much in recent months. I'm strictly talking about NA players, they are all in the same boat, not just skill wise either.
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