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Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 18:27:28
January 21 2012 18:26 GMT
#461
Somehow this thread developed in a completely predictable yet entirely unfortunate way. I wouldn't have bothered to make it if knew it would make people more angry when it's purpose was to exact opposite.
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
allecto
Profile Joined November 2010
328 Posts
January 21 2012 18:31 GMT
#462
On January 22 2012 03:26 Nothingtosay wrote:
Somehow this thread developed in a completely predictable yet entirely unfortunate way. I wouldn't have bothered to make it if knew it would make people more angry when it's purpose was to exact opposite.


Yep, unfortunately I can't tell the difference between this and the France bashing thread too much anymore...luckily you didn't mention Californian wine or there would be absolutely no difference by now...
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
January 21 2012 18:31 GMT
#463
On January 22 2012 03:22 domovoi wrote:
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On January 22 2012 03:15 TheAntZ wrote:
We fight with everyone over what the word "football means".

In your football, there is no ball, and hardly any kicking. There is nothing to fight about.

Such ignorance, but I will start a separate thread on the etymology and origins of football.

You shouldn't waste your time, it's not even feasible to me that someone can come up with a reasonable argument to explain exactly what the guy above said and then there's the fact that americans say its football, but the entire world says otherwise and when it comes to disputes about designating names to things, numbers always win.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 21 2012 18:32 GMT
#464
On January 22 2012 03:05 domovoi wrote:
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On January 22 2012 03:02 Talin wrote:
On January 22 2012 02:45 domovoi wrote:
On January 22 2012 02:44 Seraphone wrote:
On January 22 2012 02:38 domovoi wrote:
People who say the US lacks culture or even "refined culture" or try to imply the short history of the US somehow means it's culture is inferior are insecure nationalistic fucks, and their tribalistic attitude is the very reason why Europe was such a hellhole for such a long time following the sack of Rome.


What a bizzare and ridiculous thing to say. America is run by European migrants. We are the same people as of the sacking of Rome. Not that the sacking of Rome as anything at all to do with American culture.


I'm saying having the attitude that "My culture is superior to yours" is what led to a millennia of European in-fighting following the break up of Rome. It's unhealthy and, frankly, quite stupid, though to be sure Americans (or Chinese or Koreans or anyone else in the world) are no stranger to such a thing.


It's easy to look at history and say that something is "stupid" (or illogical, irrational, inefficient, etc).

The same can be said for present day as well. Even though we have the technology to do it (and we've had it for a while now), we are still split into different countries, we do not share a common language, we bicker over obsolete concepts like religion and outdated social and economic ideologies, we fail to even acknowledge, let alone attempt to solve, a myriad of problems on a global level that are necessary for the advancement (or even long term survival) of humanity.

You could say that all of that is stupid, irrational and a direct consequence of "my culture is superior to yours" attitude as well. And in a way it is - and looking at it that way is extremely frustrating when you realize how much of our planet's resources are essentially being wasted on completely meaningless concepts that don't lead anywhere.

But that's simply how humans are, and all those faults are a consequence of us not being perfectly rational. The exact same thing is happening today, only on a larger scale and with more variables. In fact, it is causing a lot more damage now than it did during the millennia of in-fighthing in Europe.

At a macro, human species level, I pretty much agree with your attitude that "it is what it is." At an individual level, though, feelings of cultural superiority should be discouraged.


But it is the same thing. Those individual flaws cause and reinforce social ones. For as long as there are different (even radically different) cultures, people will feel connected to them and, as a result, hostile towards opposing cultures.

The degree of hostility might differ from person to person and be more or less pronounced depending on the differences, but there is just NO WAY you can make a human being truly accept the elements of a different culture that strongly oppose his own.

The whole Europe vs America thing doesn't even scratch the surface of the problem. Europe and North America are culturally incredibly close and have the same origin, despite the mutual bickering (which is mostly over social and economic issues anyway, and the exact same problems exist on both sides of the Atlantic). What happens when you put western cultures side-by-side with modern-day Islamic culture, various Asian cultures, Indian?

History has shown that non-aggressive cultures are also the most easily suppressed and assimilated, even though they are in no way inferior (Tibetan, Native American, Gaelic).

Either you try to strip the people of the bond with their tradition and history (which may or may not be possible), or it simply is what it is. There's no middle ground there.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
January 21 2012 18:32 GMT
#465
On January 22 2012 03:26 R!! wrote:
Calling americans cultureless is an extremely common thing here in Brasil, one usual thing we often hear is that americans are so inane that they can't spot the region they live in on their own country's map and that we most likely know more about their history than they do, again, that's what he hear around here, and then there are the jokes regarding fat people, e.g most americans eat so much that they get to places by rolling, etc.


A miracle that Brazilian comedies aren't shown on every channel around the world.
False_Peace
Profile Joined December 2011
United States13 Posts
January 21 2012 18:34 GMT
#466
On January 22 2012 02:43 HoldenR wrote:
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On January 22 2012 02:24 False_Peace wrote:
On January 22 2012 02:17 HoldenR wrote:
On January 22 2012 01:58 xrapture wrote:
The US has the most millionares and billionares by a mile, as well as the most companies in the fortune 500.


You consider that culture?

That's something to be ashamed of considering the absolute horrid wealth gap in your country. You know what U.S. also has? Nearly 50 million people living below the poverty line. Should we consider that culture, too?

Honestly, this entire arrogance of "we are the best ever everyone else jelly lets intervene in the rest of the world's business and tell them we know better" is why people hate you. It's why 9/11 happened. This attitude is the most adverse to America's success that you could possibly imagine and you're actually proud of it.

Even if America was the #1 nation in the world, you can proudly proclaim that people like yourself are the ones preventing it from reaching it's potential of becoming even better. You're officially a drag on your own country. Congratulations.


Oh I see how it is. As soon as we start to defend ourselves by stating some achievement we have had we drag our country down?? So we should just sit there and let people like you bash us to no end...

Let me guess, you have never been to America and are speaking entirely based on things you have heard or read?


Not only is it not a prerequisite to have been to a country to understand it's affairs considering the internet puts us in touch with people around the globe on a daily basis, but I have been to the U.S. in fact. I've been to Washington D.C., Miami, New York City and Los Angeles.

Also, this isn't "defending yourself", it's scrambling to put down an argument and then just insulting your opponent. That's not self defense, that's portruding the exact stereotype that people claim they dislike about your attitude toward the rest of them. Why on earth would you prove them right? How about saying "Hey guys, I know America isn't really the best place in the world. It is for some and it isn't for others. In fact, lots of countries are great to live. I know I wouldn't mind living somewhere else, because I appreciate a great amount of cultures!"

Because you know what? You'll be hard pressed to find a EU inhabitant that wouldn't be willing to say this. We don't hate eachother's countries, and we aren't as disgustingly nationalistic in every aspect. All we're asking is "tone down the goddamn nationalism by about 20 levels because it's getting ridiculous", and your response is to tone it up some more. To prove us wrong, do the opposite of what we expect you to, and we will respect you for it.


What American here said "America is the best"? Ive read almost every post and nowhere did anyone make a blanket statement saying we are better than everyone else/ Once again you love to add generalizations that you have heard or read to frame your arguement. Please stick to the topic.

Because you know what? You'll be hard pressed to find a EU inhabitant that wouldn't be willing to say this. We don't hate eachother's countries, and we aren't as disgustingly nationalistic in every aspect.


Oh this one was real good! This actually gave me such a good laugh!! No buddy, Europe isn't nationalistic at all...., Europeans were only responsible for the 2 largest wars in the previous century that were practically a direct result of nationalism!! Oh and don't even get me started on eastern Europe and the virtual merry-go-around of countries it has produced in the last 50 years! Oh noooo! you Europeans could careless about your own countries, you are all about the greater good of mankind!

Gimmie a break..
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
January 21 2012 18:35 GMT
#467
On January 22 2012 03:14 RetroAspect wrote:
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On January 22 2012 02:33 jj33 wrote:
On January 22 2012 02:29 RetroAspect wrote:
On January 22 2012 02:25 jj33 wrote:
from a anthrological point of view american "culture" is the same as any modern country that gets their food in the supermarket.

We are classified the same as say Korea, Japan, France etc. WE all get our food the same way.


That's just 'food" culture, only a small segment of culture as a whole... shortminded much?

Also, i dare to point out that the percentage of agraric and artisanal food is a LOT bigger in Europe and most other countries..



not shortminded at all.

ask any anthropologist.

the way any culture or group of people get their food is what forms that culture. nothing is more important that how you get your food.

everything else is superficial.


France and any modern day european country is classified the same as the USA from an anthropological view.

So what i digest in form of nutrients determines how i think and how great people in my culture come to their peaks on intelligence? Not values or social-economics or history, just to name a few??
And "ask ANY..." for god's sake man... don't even start with such things as a form of argument.

And even if your feeble statement held true, did you fail to read what i wrote about artisanal food in europa vs us?



and when you said that's just "food culture" once again how you get your food is the most important and beefiest part of culture.

and maybe you should stop with the insults if you're wrong.


Edit: wrong form, heh. the quote is only till "blablabla ... anthropological view"



you digest something I did not say.

in anthropology, they classify by hunter-gatherer, farmers, horiculturalists etc etc.

belgium and USA i'm pretty sure would be classified the same way. we both get our food from the supermarket. that's all i said.

seems alot of people on TL have really bad reading comprehension
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
January 21 2012 18:35 GMT
#468
On January 22 2012 03:32 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 03:26 R!! wrote:
Calling americans cultureless is an extremely common thing here in Brasil, one usual thing we often hear is that americans are so inane that they can't spot the region they live in on their own country's map and that we most likely know more about their history than they do, again, that's what he hear around here, and then there are the jokes regarding fat people, e.g most americans eat so much that they get to places by rolling, etc.


A miracle that Brazilian comedies aren't shown on every channel around the world.

Oh, we don't have such jokes in comedy shows, then again I hardly ever watch TV, but I doubt it, this is just commonplace talk we have regarding americans.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
allecto
Profile Joined November 2010
328 Posts
January 21 2012 18:36 GMT
#469
On January 22 2012 03:31 R!! wrote:
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On January 22 2012 03:22 domovoi wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:15 TheAntZ wrote:
We fight with everyone over what the word "football means".

In your football, there is no ball, and hardly any kicking. There is nothing to fight about.

Such ignorance, but I will start a separate thread on the etymology and origins of football.

You shouldn't waste your time, it's not even feasible to me that someone can come up with a reasonable argument to explain exactly what the guy above said and then there's the fact that americans say its football, but the entire world says otherwise and when it comes to disputes about designating names to things, numbers always win.


I think he was probably arguing it's ignorant to not look at the history of American football and why it is called football--the sport changed ya know?

It's kind of like calling French fries, French. They were made in Belgium first, but who cares.
domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 18:39:28
January 21 2012 18:38 GMT
#470
On January 22 2012 03:36 allecto wrote:
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On January 22 2012 03:31 R!! wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:22 domovoi wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:15 TheAntZ wrote:
We fight with everyone over what the word "football means".

In your football, there is no ball, and hardly any kicking. There is nothing to fight about.

Such ignorance, but I will start a separate thread on the etymology and origins of football.

You shouldn't waste your time, it's not even feasible to me that someone can come up with a reasonable argument to explain exactly what the guy above said and then there's the fact that americans say its football, but the entire world says otherwise and when it comes to disputes about designating names to things, numbers always win.


I think he was probably arguing it's ignorant to not look at the history of American football and why it is called football--the sport changed ya know?

It's kind of like calling French fries, French. They were made in Belgium first, but who cares.

I have another thread already, but short version: both American football and association football are offshoots of an old British game. It's hard to say which version football is closer to that original game given centuries of rule changes, but suffice to say, it's incredibly ignorant to suggest American football has no claim to the word "football."

As for French fries (and thank god for Belgium for inventing them), I recall it has something to do with the fact they are "French cut." Not sure if the term "French cut fries" originates from Belgium or not.
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
January 21 2012 18:39 GMT
#471
On January 22 2012 03:15 Hikko wrote:
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On January 22 2012 03:12 Mondieu wrote:
America has no history, now that is true.


Trying to think of something that Romania is known for...



..


...



....


....still trying


Gypsies, cheap whores(use a condom), bear dancers
That's what I thought of in the first 3 seconds and except the beardancing thing I don't see anything negative about it
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
January 21 2012 18:40 GMT
#472
On January 22 2012 03:36 allecto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 03:31 R!! wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:22 domovoi wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:15 TheAntZ wrote:
We fight with everyone over what the word "football means".

In your football, there is no ball, and hardly any kicking. There is nothing to fight about.

Such ignorance, but I will start a separate thread on the etymology and origins of football.

You shouldn't waste your time, it's not even feasible to me that someone can come up with a reasonable argument to explain exactly what the guy above said and then there's the fact that americans say its football, but the entire world says otherwise and when it comes to disputes about designating names to things, numbers always win.


I think he was probably arguing it's ignorant to not look at the history of American football and why it is called football--the sport changed ya know?

It's kind of like calling French fries, French. They were made in Belgium first, but who cares.


Oh i know the history of it, that it was called football (among other sports) because it was played on feet rather than horseback or somesuch rubbish. Doesnt change the fact that its absurd to call handegg the 'real' football in this day and age :D
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
January 21 2012 18:42 GMT
#473
On January 22 2012 03:40 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 03:36 allecto wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:31 R!! wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:22 domovoi wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:15 TheAntZ wrote:
We fight with everyone over what the word "football means".

In your football, there is no ball, and hardly any kicking. There is nothing to fight about.

Such ignorance, but I will start a separate thread on the etymology and origins of football.

You shouldn't waste your time, it's not even feasible to me that someone can come up with a reasonable argument to explain exactly what the guy above said and then there's the fact that americans say its football, but the entire world says otherwise and when it comes to disputes about designating names to things, numbers always win.


I think he was probably arguing it's ignorant to not look at the history of American football and why it is called football--the sport changed ya know?

It's kind of like calling French fries, French. They were made in Belgium first, but who cares.


Oh i know the history of it, that it was called football (among other sports) because it was played on feet rather than horseback or somesuch rubbish. Doesnt change the fact that its absurd to call handegg the 'real' football in this day and age :D

They're both separate versions of football. Dumb to think there is even such a thing as a "real" version; pretty sure they're both quite real.
allecto
Profile Joined November 2010
328 Posts
January 21 2012 18:42 GMT
#474
On January 22 2012 03:38 domovoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 03:36 allecto wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:31 R!! wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:22 domovoi wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:15 TheAntZ wrote:
We fight with everyone over what the word "football means".

In your football, there is no ball, and hardly any kicking. There is nothing to fight about.

Such ignorance, but I will start a separate thread on the etymology and origins of football.

You shouldn't waste your time, it's not even feasible to me that someone can come up with a reasonable argument to explain exactly what the guy above said and then there's the fact that americans say its football, but the entire world says otherwise and when it comes to disputes about designating names to things, numbers always win.


I think he was probably arguing it's ignorant to not look at the history of American football and why it is called football--the sport changed ya know?

It's kind of like calling French fries, French. They were made in Belgium first, but who cares.

I have another thread already, but short version: both American football and association football are offshoots of an old British game. It's hard to say which version football is closer to that original game given centuries of rule changes, but suffice to say, it's incredibly ignorant to suggest American football has no claim to the word "football."

As for French fries (and thank god for Belgium for inventing them), I recall it has something to do with the fact they are "French cut." Not sure if the term "French cut fries" originates from Belgium or not.


Exactly what I was trying to get at. I'll move the discussion over to the other thread.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 18:43:07
January 21 2012 18:42 GMT
#475
America has a lot of accents and their own version of English. They obviously do have their own culture.

Anyone know what he's saying?

Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 18:44:03
January 21 2012 18:43 GMT
#476
On January 22 2012 03:42 domovoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 03:40 TheAntZ wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:36 allecto wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:31 R!! wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:22 domovoi wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:15 TheAntZ wrote:
We fight with everyone over what the word "football means".

In your football, there is no ball, and hardly any kicking. There is nothing to fight about.

Such ignorance, but I will start a separate thread on the etymology and origins of football.

You shouldn't waste your time, it's not even feasible to me that someone can come up with a reasonable argument to explain exactly what the guy above said and then there's the fact that americans say its football, but the entire world says otherwise and when it comes to disputes about designating names to things, numbers always win.


I think he was probably arguing it's ignorant to not look at the history of American football and why it is called football--the sport changed ya know?

It's kind of like calling French fries, French. They were made in Belgium first, but who cares.


Oh i know the history of it, that it was called football (among other sports) because it was played on feet rather than horseback or somesuch rubbish. Doesnt change the fact that its absurd to call handegg the 'real' football in this day and age :D

They're both separate versions of football. Dumb to think there is even such a thing as a "real" version; pretty sure they're both quite real.


Alright, you have your points. I still believe its absurd to call the sport football, and regardless of the origins of the word that wont change, but I respect you going out of your way to educate me on the history of it
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
January 21 2012 18:45 GMT
#477
I have never heard such an accusation about America. It would be ridiculous anyways because of all of the culture that America DOES have.
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
January 21 2012 18:45 GMT
#478
Never heard of that, but the american culture is so infused into others that it just blends into it, which might give away that impression.


Just think about, we all watch american movies, series, we eat american food, we play american games, etc, etc... all of these have been globalized, so to speak.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
January 21 2012 18:49 GMT
#479
On January 22 2012 03:34 False_Peace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 02:43 HoldenR wrote:
On January 22 2012 02:24 False_Peace wrote:
On January 22 2012 02:17 HoldenR wrote:
On January 22 2012 01:58 xrapture wrote:
The US has the most millionares and billionares by a mile, as well as the most companies in the fortune 500.


You consider that culture?

That's something to be ashamed of considering the absolute horrid wealth gap in your country. You know what U.S. also has? Nearly 50 million people living below the poverty line. Should we consider that culture, too?

Honestly, this entire arrogance of "we are the best ever everyone else jelly lets intervene in the rest of the world's business and tell them we know better" is why people hate you. It's why 9/11 happened. This attitude is the most adverse to America's success that you could possibly imagine and you're actually proud of it.

Even if America was the #1 nation in the world, you can proudly proclaim that people like yourself are the ones preventing it from reaching it's potential of becoming even better. You're officially a drag on your own country. Congratulations.


Oh I see how it is. As soon as we start to defend ourselves by stating some achievement we have had we drag our country down?? So we should just sit there and let people like you bash us to no end...

Let me guess, you have never been to America and are speaking entirely based on things you have heard or read?


Not only is it not a prerequisite to have been to a country to understand it's affairs considering the internet puts us in touch with people around the globe on a daily basis, but I have been to the U.S. in fact. I've been to Washington D.C., Miami, New York City and Los Angeles.

Also, this isn't "defending yourself", it's scrambling to put down an argument and then just insulting your opponent. That's not self defense, that's portruding the exact stereotype that people claim they dislike about your attitude toward the rest of them. Why on earth would you prove them right? How about saying "Hey guys, I know America isn't really the best place in the world. It is for some and it isn't for others. In fact, lots of countries are great to live. I know I wouldn't mind living somewhere else, because I appreciate a great amount of cultures!"

Because you know what? You'll be hard pressed to find a EU inhabitant that wouldn't be willing to say this. We don't hate eachother's countries, and we aren't as disgustingly nationalistic in every aspect. All we're asking is "tone down the goddamn nationalism by about 20 levels because it's getting ridiculous", and your response is to tone it up some more. To prove us wrong, do the opposite of what we expect you to, and we will respect you for it.


What American here said "America is the best"? Ive read almost every post and nowhere did anyone make a blanket statement saying we are better than everyone else/ Once again you love to add generalizations that you have heard or read to frame your arguement. Please stick to the topic.

Show nested quote +
Because you know what? You'll be hard pressed to find a EU inhabitant that wouldn't be willing to say this. We don't hate eachother's countries, and we aren't as disgustingly nationalistic in every aspect.


Oh this one was real good! This actually gave me such a good laugh!! No buddy, Europe isn't nationalistic at all...., Europeans were only responsible for the 2 largest wars in the previous century that were practically a direct result of nationalism!! Oh and don't even get me started on eastern Europe and the virtual merry-go-around of countries it has produced in the last 50 years! Oh noooo! you Europeans could careless about your own countries, you are all about the greater good of mankind!

Gimmie a break..


If you haven't seen the america is the #1 post then you clearly haven't read all of the posts here
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
January 21 2012 18:49 GMT
#480
On January 22 2012 03:42 allecto wrote:
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On January 22 2012 03:38 domovoi wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:36 allecto wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:31 R!! wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:22 domovoi wrote:
On January 22 2012 03:15 TheAntZ wrote:
We fight with everyone over what the word "football means".

In your football, there is no ball, and hardly any kicking. There is nothing to fight about.

Such ignorance, but I will start a separate thread on the etymology and origins of football.

You shouldn't waste your time, it's not even feasible to me that someone can come up with a reasonable argument to explain exactly what the guy above said and then there's the fact that americans say its football, but the entire world says otherwise and when it comes to disputes about designating names to things, numbers always win.


I think he was probably arguing it's ignorant to not look at the history of American football and why it is called football--the sport changed ya know?

It's kind of like calling French fries, French. They were made in Belgium first, but who cares.

I have another thread already, but short version: both American football and association football are offshoots of an old British game. It's hard to say which version football is closer to that original game given centuries of rule changes, but suffice to say, it's incredibly ignorant to suggest American football has no claim to the word "football."

As for French fries (and thank god for Belgium for inventing them), I recall it has something to do with the fact they are "French cut." Not sure if the term "French cut fries" originates from Belgium or not.


Exactly what I was trying to get at. I'll move the discussion over to the other thread.

Apparently my thread was so non-controversial, it was closed. Anyway, here's what I wrote.
For some reason, certain soccer fans find it necessary to criticize American football on the grounds that it doesn't involve much kicking or a spheroid. This is a thread to point out how ignorant they sound.

Football can be split it up into two categories: association football and gridiron football. Both of these games are derived from the British sport of football (to be sure, plenty of other cultures had games involving running, kicking and ball carrying). That British sport generally moved the ball around through carrying the ball, but scoring involved kicking the ball into some target. Centuries later, the two offshoots of that game became popularized. Association football got rid of the carrying aspect while gridiron football downplayed the kicking aspect. American football went one step further and allowed forward passes.

American football is not the only gridiron football that is played. There is Rugby and its various versions. Canada and Australia also have their own version of gridiron football. All of those countries also call the game "football." Even in Britain, it is common to refer to gridiron football rather than association football as "football." Needless to say, there is no "one true way" to referring to these types of games; American football has as much claim to the term "football" as association football does.

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