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On January 11 2012 17:21 Brett wrote:
I can't believe the number of Aussies here supporting this kid's actions to carry the knife and use it against his bully.
News flash: In Australia doing this will see you end up in gaol.
Anyway, terrible situation. I accept that he acted lawfully in that jurisdiction, but I don't personally agree with it.
So just let yourself get the shit beat out of you huh? Oh, and btw, everyone caries a fucking knife in this country. Especially if a group of thugs says they're gonna make your face look like it wen't through a meat grinder. That's called common fucking sense.
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Props to him for defending himself and not being a meatbag.
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There does come a point where self defence runs into murder no one here will know exactly how it went down bit 12 stab wounds means he was on the offensive at least part of it.
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On January 11 2012 17:06 Air4013 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:04 Velr wrote:
I still wonder how stabbing 12 times is still self defense. 12 times takes some serious rage, which the kid might rightfully had, but it also makes it "more" than self defense. Thats why i think he should get punished somehow.
Not with jail, for sure not an US jail which make matters only worse, but letting him go freely just feels wrong to me. Kid needs help, either way.
I don't have sympathies for the Bully... But that doesn't chaneg the bad feeling i get about "self defense by stabbing someone 12 times or whatever it was" ( among others to the heart... Which is the first spot you would aim for when "defending" yoruself right?)...
In general:
Bullying is getting blown WAY out of proportion. It happens since the dawn of time and suddenly in the last few years it's one of THE big problems of our societies? LOL.. Grow up. God your delusional what world are you living in man? [...] your just mentally retarded, my apologies.
On January 11 2012 17:12 Zergmeister wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:04 Velr wrote:
I still wonder how stabbing 12 times is still self defense. 12 times takes some serious rage, which the kid might rightfully had, but it also makes it "more" than self defense. Thats why i think he should get punished somehow.
Not with jail, for sure not an US jail which make matters only worse, but letting him go freely just feels wrong to me. Kid needs help, either way.
I don't have sympathies for the Bully... But that doesn't chaneg the bad feeling i get about "self defense by stabbing someone 12 times or whatever it was" ( among others to the heart... Which is the first spot you would aim for when "defending" yoruself right?)...
In general:
Bullying is getting blown WAY out of proportion. It happens since the dawn of time and suddenly in the last few years it's one of THE big problems of our societies? LOL.. Grow up. you sir, are deillusional of the world you live in, or simply mentaly retarded
Wow, these two posts directed to the same person are shockingly similar O.o
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On January 11 2012 17:26 smokeyhoodoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:21 Brett wrote:
I can't believe the number of Aussies here supporting this kid's actions to carry the knife and use it against his bully.
News flash: In Australia doing this will see you end up in gaol.
Anyway, terrible situation. I accept that he acted lawfully in that jurisdiction, but I don't personally agree with it. So just let yourself get the shit beat out of you huh? Oh, and btw, everyone caries a fucking knife in this country. Especially if a group of thugs says they're gonna make your face look like it wen't through a meat grinder. That's called common fucking sense.
Can we rename it to Cowboyland? As it seems it is still exactly that.
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On January 11 2012 17:26 smokeyhoodoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:21 Brett wrote:
I can't believe the number of Aussies here supporting this kid's actions to carry the knife and use it against his bully.
News flash: In Australia doing this will see you end up in gaol.
Anyway, terrible situation. I accept that he acted lawfully in that jurisdiction, but I don't personally agree with it. So just let yourself get the shit beat out of you huh? Oh, and btw, everyone caries a fucking knife in this country. Especially if a group of thugs says they're gonna make your face look like it wen't thr ough a meat grinder. That's called common fucking sense.
Where do you live that everyone carries a knife lol?
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On January 11 2012 17:26 smokeyhoodoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:21 Brett wrote:
I can't believe the number of Aussies here supporting this kid's actions to carry the knife and use it against his bully.
News flash: In Australia doing this will see you end up in gaol.
Anyway, terrible situation. I accept that he acted lawfully in that jurisdiction, but I don't personally agree with it. So just let yourself get the shit beat out of you huh? Oh, and btw, everyone caries a fucking knife in this country. Especially if a group of thugs says they're gonna make your face look like it wen't through a meat grinder. That's called common fucking sense.
Precisely why I don't want to live in your 'fucking' country. But don't make this an America vs the world thing. I'm simply correcting my fellow Australians' perceptions of what is lawful here. As a criminal lawyer in my 5th year post admission, I've got the requisite qualifications, pal.
As to your first question... as if carrying a knife and using it was the only option...
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On January 11 2012 17:32 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:26 smokeyhoodoo wrote:On January 11 2012 17:21 Brett wrote:
I can't believe the number of Aussies here supporting this kid's actions to carry the knife and use it against his bully.
News flash: In Australia doing this will see you end up in gaol.
Anyway, terrible situation. I accept that he acted lawfully in that jurisdiction, but I don't personally agree with it. So just let yourself get the shit beat out of you huh? Oh, and btw, everyone caries a fucking knife in this country. Especially if a group of thugs says they're gonna make your face look like it wen't thr ough a meat grinder. That's called common fucking sense. Where do you live that everyone carries a knife lol?
A magical land, where people still cut things. Everyone was an exaggeration btw.
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On January 11 2012 17:32 Brett wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:26 smokeyhoodoo wrote:On January 11 2012 17:21 Brett wrote:
I can't believe the number of Aussies here supporting this kid's actions to carry the knife and use it against his bully.
News flash: In Australia doing this will see you end up in gaol.
Anyway, terrible situation. I accept that he acted lawfully in that jurisdiction, but I don't personally agree with it. So just let yourself get the shit beat out of you huh? Oh, and btw, everyone caries a fucking knife in this country. Especially if a group of thugs says they're gonna make your face look like it wen't through a meat grinder. That's called common fucking sense. Precisely why I don't want to live in your 'fucking' country. But don't make this an America vs the world thing. I'm simply correcting my fellow Australians' perceptions of what is lawful here. As a criminal lawyer in my 5th year post admission, I've got the requisite qualifications, pal. As to your first question... as if carrying a knife and using it was the only option...
Is having the police follow you around everyday for a year the alternative?
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Yea huh. I grew up in an area that a lot of people in the us like to steroype as rough and gheto and i knew exactly 0 people who carried any kind of weapon. For serious the whole gun/weapon sterotype is severely exagerated by those outside the US.
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On January 11 2012 17:37 Slaughter wrote:
Yea huh. I grew up in an area that a lot of people in the us like to steroype as rough and gheto and i knew exactly 0 people who carried any kind of weapon. For serious the whole gun/weapon sterotype is severely exagerated by those outside the US.
You don't know anyone who carries a knife? You're kidding right? Where do you live? Its got nothing to do with being rough and ghetto, its just a useful thing to have. I know girls that carry a knife on them.
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What you mean outside of a basic swiss army knife thing that happens to have a small knife on it? No one and I only know a couple of people who have one of those. I used to live in Detroit now I'm in Wichita for grad school and the only one here I know who has a pocket knife is one of my old professors who uses it in the field when we are doing excavations 
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On January 11 2012 17:47 Slaughter wrote:What you mean outside of a basic swiss army knife thing that happens to have a small knife on it? No one and I only know a couple of people who have one of those. I used to live in Detroit now I'm in Wichita for grad school and the only one here I know who has a pocket knife is one of my old professors who uses it in the field when we are doing excavations
So you do know someone.
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On January 11 2012 17:26 smokeyhoodoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:21 Brett wrote:
I can't believe the number of Aussies here supporting this kid's actions to carry the knife and use it against his bully.
News flash: In Australia doing this will see you end up in gaol.
Anyway, terrible situation. I accept that he acted lawfully in that jurisdiction, but I don't personally agree with it. So just let yourself get the shit beat out of you huh? Oh, and btw, everyone caries a fucking knife in this country. Especially if a group of thugs says they're gonna make your face look like it wen't through a meat grinder. That's called common fucking sense.
pretty much have to agree, i mean, what can school or parents do exactly? guy said he gonna beat him up, real bad, but he didnt do anything yet, chances are if he gonna "snitch" to parents, bully gonna beat him up even worse, i dont see the problem with bully being dead, i always said and this just confirms its again, if u gonna fu"k with someone, be ready for worse situation to happen, throw eggs at someone property be ready for some retard to pull out glock and pop u in the head, try to beat up someone, get knifed in stomach.
Dont fu'k with someone, then they dont fu'k with u.
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On January 11 2012 17:21 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
My god there is a lot of ignorant garbage in here. This isn't murder, and it isn't about "justice", or the bully deserving to die. Its self defense. He didn't plan on killing the kid, he was attacked and stabbed the guy.
How many days in your school career did you pack a deadly weapon in the morning?
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On January 11 2012 17:58 Dubsy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:21 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
My god there is a lot of ignorant garbage in here. This isn't murder, and it isn't about "justice", or the bully deserving to die. Its self defense. He didn't plan on killing the kid, he was attacked and stabbed the guy. How many days in your school career did you pack a deadly weapon in the morning?
Every time a group of thugs threatened to beat the shit out of me. So zero.
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On January 11 2012 17:30 Slaughter wrote:
There does come a point where self defence runs into murder no one here will know exactly how it went down bit 12 stab wounds means he was on the offensive at least part of it.
stabbing someone 12 time with small knife takes literally couple of seconds, so its no surprise really.
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On January 11 2012 18:04 smokeyhoodoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 17:58 Dubsy wrote:On January 11 2012 17:21 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
My god there is a lot of ignorant garbage in here. This isn't murder, and it isn't about "justice", or the bully deserving to die. Its self defense. He didn't plan on killing the kid, he was attacked and stabbed the guy. How many days in your school career did you pack a deadly weapon in the morning? Every time a group of thugs threatened to beat the shit out of me. So zero.
And that's why you're so clueless.
If you had spent one second in a tough area you'd know you don't want a weapon. If you're bringing a lethal weapon with you you become a target and unless you are trained in close quarters combat there is a good chance the knife is getting used on the "victim."
I haven't seen any mention of this angry mob of bullies you're talking about. It was one kid picking on him. He didn't want to deal with it, he didn't want to fight him, he didn't want to get help so he decided to stab his classmate TWELVE times so he wouldn't have to put up with it any more.
Fair and logical, IMO. Good example to set if I ever get pissed off at my boss or spouse or authority figure.
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This should happen to all bullies. I'm sad for Saavedra and his family that they will have to live with this for the rest of their days though 
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On January 11 2012 18:11 Dubsy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 18:04 smokeyhoodoo wrote:On January 11 2012 17:58 Dubsy wrote:On January 11 2012 17:21 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
My god there is a lot of ignorant garbage in here. This isn't murder, and it isn't about "justice", or the bully deserving to die. Its self defense. He didn't plan on killing the kid, he was attacked and stabbed the guy. How many days in your school career did you pack a deadly weapon in the morning? Every time a group of thugs threatened to beat the shit out of me. So zero. And that's why you're so clueless. If you had spent one second in a tough area you'd know you don't want a weapon. If you're bringing a lethal weapon with you you become a target and unless you are trained in close quarters combat there is a good chance the knife is getting used on the "victim." I haven't seen any mention of this angry mob of bullies you're talking about. It was one kid picking on him. He didn't want to deal with it, he didn't want to fight him, he didn't want to get help so he decided to stab his classmate TWELVE times so he wouldn't have to put up with it any more. Fair and logical, IMO. Good example to set if I ever get pissed off at my boss or spouse or authority figure.
Maybe you should read about the incident before calling me clueless.
Lol, I'm interested in what ghetto you're from now. What streets did you grow up on gangsta?
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