While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.
Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
HuK mothership rushes and looses on purpose but is treated like a superhero.
Naniwa makes a probe rush and looses on purpose but gets revoked by biased judges.
What Naniwa did wasnt a rush , and it wasnt a viable strategy , he just lost the game on purpose.. I guess he will learn what not to do , the hard way...
t though he was going to get a warning , not a temporary ban , but he deserves it even though GOM also as fault of making players play a game after they have been eliminated
On December 14 2011 20:12 Talic_Zealot wrote: It seems to come down to every person's idea of respect and how important it is. The punishment may be harsh, but I am disgusted by how many people don't seem to have 'respect' as a part of their ideology.
Like this has anything to do with respect. This has everything to do with the retarded tournament format forcing player to play unneeded games. Most people would have done the same thing or some terrible allin playing with 1 hand. I don't see the difference.
You mean a tournament that makes money from sponsors tries to have the as many games as possible to entertain their fans happy?
I don't blame GOMtv for wanting nestea vs naniwa (as a fan, I wanted to see that). I understand that naniwa was upset about the previous results and didn't feel that he would be able to give an entertaining game... unfortunately that's what a "professional player" is expected to do. (Yes, I'm aware that sc2 IS his profession.)
I liked naniwa prior to this incident. I want to keep liking him and forgive him for this incident. However, until he shows that he cares about his fans I'm not going cheer for or support him.
Disregarding if Naniwa was justifiable punished or not, do all of you who says good job GOM also agree with the tweet pretty much insulting him as a money grubber? (could be a translation mistake obviously)
Is punishing a player and insulting him while doing so the proper reaction from the most prestigious SC2 tournament in the world?
On December 14 2011 20:23 SeriouR wrote: I've sent an e-mail to Gom speaking my mind. Everyone should do that so thay can see what their behaivour had caused.
I doubt it will do anything. In my opinion, GOM did the right thing, kinda no reason for me to write to them.
They don't have to respect your thoughts or do anything about your mails.
Hah, honesty is not appriciated in this world. He should just have kept the mask and played according to the "system". This statement pretty much defines starcraft2 as a showbiz, not a sport.
Oh, and its funny how people say koreans are less fake then the rest of the world, Maybe it was true 100 years ago.
There are so many retards foaming at the mouth in this thread. NANIWA BMS A MASSIVE INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PUNISH HIM FOR BEING A GIANT DOUCHEBAG!!!!11111111111111. Oh wait. Yes they can. He did stupid unprofessional shit and got in trouble for it. What do you think would happen if you turned on the news and the anchorman looked at the screen and was like " Well fuck it I didn't sleep well I don't feel like reading this shit for you. I'm just gonna take a nap." You think the news company is gonna tell him "it's cool bro we understanding how you were feeling". Fuck no. They would fire him on the spot. People need to stop acting like PROFESSIONAL players deserve any different people doing other PROFESSIONS.
On December 14 2011 20:13 Sailincieri wrote: Kids, this is obvious decision, you should understand why... GSL is tournament for professional players, playing is profession, not some kind of fun. In GSL they play for audience! Not for themselves. Do you think in normal JOB you can say to your boss that you have bad humor and dont wanna work? NO!
Naniwa, no matter what he think, should just sit in that booth and give fight with all his heart! To respect Korean audience, NesTea, GSL stuff, online audience etc.
This match wasnt meaningless, if not for Naniwa it has meaning for audience, probably for NesTea... This is not a playground for 3yo kinds, this is professional tournament, for professional players. His duty as a player was to give his best in that game!
With all his heart!? Do you really think that any progamer can do this after being eliminated in the most frustrating manner in 3 extremely close games?
For Nestea and Naniwa it stopped being a tournament the moment they got 0-3. From them on it became an annoying waste of time.
Also, it's quite disrespectful to start a post with "Kids"...
Really? Does FC Munich just quit the field when they are down 0-3 in the 80 minute? Does Hamilton decide to just not drive the last 3 races if he can't be world champion? Your comparison makes me sick. They are professionals and they should act like they are.
On December 14 2011 20:11 tomatriedes wrote: So to all the people ranting about how unprofessional Naniwa is- do you think that BM winning/taunting ceremonies like manner mules,hatches and nexuses and unit dancing (all things that Gom allows) are 'professional'?
Looks like nobody's got an answer to this? That's what I figured.
I asked the exact same thing on reddit and got downvoted to oblivion. Where is the line? This is a really dangerous precedent.
I'm pretty sure the line between playful ribbing between two players and purposefully throwing matches is pretty big.
On December 14 2011 20:23 theBALLS wrote: Who else is now going to buy a ticket with their newfound respect for GOM?
I know I am!
Haha, I don't think anyone will seriously boycott GOM. Anyone who gets so upset over this is far too much of a SC2 addict to pass up on GSL
Yeah, I can imagine all those people calling boycott wryly crawling back to their computers, taking a check behind their back then opening Gomplayer to watch GSL next week :D
EPT
I won't
