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Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
December 06 2011 02:19 GMT
#601
I think the problem with Halo and CoD is they come out with a new freakin game every 1-2 years.

SC2 will see its expansion, but will not be as big change as the previous games see everytime.
whoopingchow
Profile Joined June 2011
United States293 Posts
December 06 2011 02:27 GMT
#602
This sounded just like friendly banter...the same sort of stuff football fans talk about baseball, or soccer fans talk about everyone else, etc.
MattO1337
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
December 06 2011 02:39 GMT
#603
On December 06 2011 10:55 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 10:06 TheLOLas wrote:
Of course the other games are going to be jealous, we are dominating them. Just let them bitch and moan, when they die off we will never have to listen to them ever again.

The video is taken out of context. They are joking. I.E. like someone reading huks twitter and thinking he's biologically related to MC.


Who cares if the video is taken out of context, Halo is bad and will die soon. If they want to poke fun at Starcraft, then let them. They won't be around much longer.

User was banned for this post.
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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
December 06 2011 02:50 GMT
#604
On December 06 2011 11:39 MattO1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 10:55 Probe1 wrote:
On December 06 2011 10:06 TheLOLas wrote:
Of course the other games are going to be jealous, we are dominating them. Just let them bitch and moan, when they die off we will never have to listen to them ever again.

The video is taken out of context. They are joking. I.E. like someone reading huks twitter and thinking he's biologically related to MC.


Who cares if the video is taken out of context, Halo is bad and will die soon. If they want to poke fun at Starcraft, then let them. They won't be around much longer.

I wish people like you would get banned.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 03:02:00
December 06 2011 03:00 GMT
#605
Eh....... Manner please. I don't have any particular love for Halo but community is not supposed to mean elitist fucks that hate all other games. That's not the intent of the video posted here and you should not respond in kind.

In fact, please edit that out >_< all you're doing is being inflammatory.

Edit- actually I think that's exactly the intent of the thread being made here. This seriously is a case of someone taking a joke literally and a wave of offended posters that didn't watch the video for context but posted in retribution anyway.
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 03:21:58
December 06 2011 03:20 GMT
#606
On December 06 2011 11:39 MattO1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 10:55 Probe1 wrote:
On December 06 2011 10:06 TheLOLas wrote:
Of course the other games are going to be jealous, we are dominating them. Just let them bitch and moan, when they die off we will never have to listen to them ever again.

The video is taken out of context. They are joking. I.E. like someone reading huks twitter and thinking he's biologically related to MC.


Who cares if the video is taken out of context, Halo is bad and will die soon. If they want to poke fun at Starcraft, then let them. They won't be around much longer.


Lol, comments like this are genuinely funny.

E: "Don't let common sense and facts interfere with my raging"
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LlOoKkIi
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Korea (South)473 Posts
December 06 2011 03:34 GMT
#607
Yeah I swore these guys said they were joking after, even if they aren't let them have their opinions of the sc2 community why do you care? Just like we have probably some misconceptions about their community they have some about ours. What does it really matter we keep to ourselves and same to them.
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deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 04:51:16
December 06 2011 04:50 GMT
#608
Judging by the responses to the OP, there are individuals in our community just like theirs, lots of Halo hate in here. I for one don't give a shit about Halo or any console game, but please if you guys really think so much better of our community, don't stoop to a lower level. Anyway, they were just poking fun at the pros style and fashion sense (BIG WHOOP), and the SC2 community in general, it's fairly accurate perception of the majority and anyway who cares it's just a shallow characteristic to look at anyway. That's like gradeschool highschool stuff, and it was a good laugh. I really don't think that deep down they believe that because they dress better that they think they're really any better, again this is an assumption based on how we grow up into adulthood, gradually people care less and less about such material things.

Seriously kids in here blowing this way outta proportion, their community is tiny anyway, like what they say makes any impact on us. They are clearly jealous of what our community has produced, they're try trying to rile up theirs. RELAX my fellow nerds.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 05:05:55
December 06 2011 05:01 GMT
#609
wow these guys are some pathetic ass nerds jesus

trying to talk shit, this is classic "anyone worse than me is a stupid noob and anyone better than me is a nerd."

(e: wow i typo'd nerd as zerg)
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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 05:37:59
December 06 2011 05:02 GMT
#610
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Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
December 06 2011 05:36 GMT
#611
On December 06 2011 14:02 Vei wrote:
also who the fuck is saying "they're not nerdy?" anyone into gaming enough to realize there is even competitive levels of it is a nerd, get the fuck over it... "we're not hating on you..." as they just (seemingly drunkenly) trashtalk vague sc players saying they dress better?

also i like how you can tell 5 minutes into this rant they realize, without anyone arguing against them, that they can't shittalk sc2. this seems to be more just a misguided vent of "i'm sad my game is dying and someone else's game that seems to intimidating for me to get into is getting SO huge, i can only dream that i ever play a game that will be as popular as sc"


Too many people making a big deal over nothing. Watch the whole video
JohnHarr
Profile Joined November 2011
United States375 Posts
December 06 2011 06:49 GMT
#612
So, first of all there is a lot to this. There is the video posted in the OP's post, then there is the original video that talked about the issues that Halo's community and the game itself is facing(I believe they called the original video "The Great Debate"). Now if you guys actually want to see what they are talking about, then at least watch part of "The Great Debate" where they are actually putting out their view on Halo's problems and giving out possible solutions.

In both videos(minus the first 5 minutes of the video posted in the OP), these guys are talking about how no one in the Halo community is backing up the competitive scene and how the pro players of Halo are refusing to come together to try to save their game. That is what these videos are about. They are about trying to get their community to back Halo and their Pro players to work together to make it past this next year to when Halo 4 is supposed to come out.

I feel that the OP did a terrible job with this thread, not because they said you only had to watch the first 10 minutes of the second not as important video, but because they put their voice completely against the video in the very first sentence.

On December 05 2011 10:52 firehand101 wrote:
This is the video that has inspired this thread. If you can't view it, it is basically 3 notable identities in the halo community discussing their thoughts on starcraft in general, and most are just plain offensive and cheap shots at our game (most are in the first 10 minutes so that is all you have to watch to get the general idea).


As you all know, if you do that on the internet there WILL be people who grab onto that as the truth and run with it. Now the OP didn't mention that in the other video, "The Great Debate", two of the people in the OP's posted video are praising SC2 pretty much the whole time. Not only that, but in "The Great Debate" they talk about things that they can take from other gaming communities to try to save Halo's community. In the OP's video(I won't deny that it starts off sounding like it is against SC2) they are just joking around about stereotypes of SC2 players. Granted this doesn't help their message, but if you watched the video it would be obvious that they were joking around about it in the beginning since for the rest of the video they keep going back to SC2's amazing community as an example.

I can see how people could take the first 5 minutes of the OP's posted video the wrong way, and I am fine with that. What embarrasses me is that they felt so much pressure from our community running away with the idea of them flaming us that they took down their video with the comments in it and made an apology video. Are we that paranoid about people saying things about our community that we can't even take a few jokes about us(some of them were even things we say about ourselves, like calling ourselves nerds)?

If group of people should be making an apology, it should be the SC2 community that jumped on their backs without even trying to listen to more than 5 minutes of over 2 hours of video they have made about the subject(note that in the other 115 minutes there is only good comments about SC2 and the community aside from a comical jest every once and a while...).


(Yes I do know that the apology they made was really not an apology at all, but it is just the fact that they felt the need to make it that upsets me.)
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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
December 06 2011 06:56 GMT
#613
I've been to a couple MLG events and I'm always non-plussed at the amount of dbaggery inherent in most of the FPS communities. I realize there are exceptions to the rule but I've never been prouder to be a part of the SC community than when I'm at these events.

You just can't imagine the asshats playing these games. Faux thugs and Abercrombie dbags abound. I love esports but there are elements I don't want to touch with a ten foot pole.
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nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
December 06 2011 06:59 GMT
#614
At MLG Providence I could point out every FPS console person their, they all wore the same stuff it was hilarious. Some kind of sports hat, maybe a sports jeresy/shirt, ghetto shoes, baggy jeans, and chains or some kind of jewelry.

That being said, who cares? SC2 and computer gaming is slowly taking over the eSport's community, we already took MLG away from Halo. After the Halo finals finished and they switched to SC2 their STILL wasn't enough seats for the SC2 community to all sit down. We had more standing people watching SC2 then Halo had sitting + playing.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
December 06 2011 07:07 GMT
#615
these guys were a lot more knowledgeable than i expected. they seem like nice dudes but i'm really surprised people still hate on 'nerds' these days. oh well, whatever. i liked that one of them said he'd say things he didn't really believe about sc order in to keep halo alive. in his situation, i'd probably do the same. actually i guess i already have, about brood war to sc2 LOL!
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BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
December 06 2011 08:27 GMT
#616
You guys forget that MLG, a league based around Halo, is by far the most stable gaming league for a number of years. Sure, the merging with the SC2 scene has grown it extremely quickly, but it built itself on the halo community and was dishing out 50k prizes in America well before SC2 came around. I heard of MLG long before I heard of the GSL, OSL, PSL (or whatever that other BW league is called).
durlug
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6 Posts
December 06 2011 12:19 GMT
#617
I was a part of the Halo scene before I got into Starcraft 2, following MLG Halo since late Halo 2. These three guys are a huge part of the Halo community, one of which being a current commentator for the events. I must say I am kind of surprised about the way they acted, nothing about what they said was really harsh in any way, I mean all they really said was SC2 was full of nerds without style, which for the most part is true. I just think the way they presented it and voiced their opinion was in a really bad way. I visit the MLG forums regular due to my past connection with Halo, and the talk about SC2 on there from the Halo scene is more or less like that as well, not everyone obviously, but there is a huge ignorance towards SC2 and a bias towards Halo. This is of course going to be the case, Starcraft 2 basically came in and in one year has taken MLG by the reigns and became the star while Halo is falling to the side, the Halo community will be upset. There is definitely bias and ignorance on these forums as well when it comes to SC2 / Halo, it's just one communities perspective compared to another.

All they are trying to do is get their game back to where it used to be. Halo Reach was a huge flop for the competitive scene, the changes introduced with the release of the game did not go well for MLG at all, and it lost a lot of that fire it once had with Halo CE/2/3. I just think the way they tried to motivate their community by trash talking SC2 players and its community was in bad taste. Which if you look at it, what they said about how the SC2 players have no life outside their game, what they are basically saying is that the SC2 Pros are just more dedicated to the game, to their job than the Halo community. I mean you didn't hate on Wayne Gretzky for playing too much hockey, because that's what he was passionate about, that's what he did.

Overall I understand what those three guys were trying to get done with that whole episode, but they did it in the dumbest way possible.
Kring
Profile Joined August 2011
Portugal70 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 12:29:17
December 06 2011 12:25 GMT
#618
wtf, this is the worse pile of internet jaboozer combined... Talking about the OP video.

I respect all games played competitively. I don´t see other games, because i don´t like them.
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nexymlg
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States3 Posts
December 06 2011 17:29 GMT
#619
Writing this quick and sloppy - on my way to work.

The conversation, I felt, was intended to be more like a football vs baseball conversation that a couple of friends at the bar would have. At least that was my mindset. If I ever imagined the exposure this would've gotten (thanks Kennigit), I'm sure most of us would've chose different language. I thought it was light-hearted and held no real merit. The topic is obviously fluff but it seems to have struck a nerve with a lot of Redditor's.

Actually, this stemmed from a conversation that Starcraft players are more dedicated, putting in countless hours where Halo players are not and therefor have more time to do other things.

I'm fully aware of the godly Korean fashion sense. Koreans playing soccer with other houses. EG dudes hitting the gym together. Again, the first five minutes of our conversation holds no weight -- as we were hamming up our obnoxious characters.

I do understand why some would get defensive. I'm not as hardcore as many of the people out there. More like a birds-eye-view. I get that this is a way of life for some, so any sort of criticism is taken pretty personally. In all honesty though, I don't think I would ever get upset if someone outside of my community compared the wardrobe of players. Regardless, the entire point is worthless and it's a shame you had to see those 5 minutes over some of the other content we've produced.

I appreciate most of the TL dudes dismissing the importance of this video. Just wanted to let you know where this came from.

Regardless,

I never considered myself a leader of the Halo community. I'm certainly not speaking on there behalf. I'm hardly speaking on my own behalf.

Let me know if you have any questions.
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Zuxo
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden395 Posts
December 06 2011 17:41 GMT
#620
On December 05 2011 11:01 Mity wrote:
Don't really care what they think? Halo compared to Quake, Counter-Strike and other FPS games is a laughable excuse for an eSport. (Just personal opinion, dont bother flaming me.)


Totally agree with this statement since it is, according to me, the truth.
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