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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote: I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing. There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly. Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability. Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening. The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors. Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
Hahahaha.
I need my morning cup of esports drama. This is gonna be great.
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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote: I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue...
But you quoted Nazgul... so if he's a no-name random then I'm really interested in hearing how highly you think of yourself.
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On November 14 2011 02:05 Xpace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 02:02 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:56 Xpace wrote:On November 14 2011 01:42 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote: I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing. There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly. Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability. Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening. The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors. Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic. At least stop talking about yourself in third person, like you're someone else Gus - It's pretty pathetic He's not Gus, but apparently he knows what went down ' behind the scenes'. What's confusing about his post is how he's insulting the people who weren't involved in the incident, saying they're ' no name randoms' (that pretty much translates to 'scrubs'), hopping on a bandwagon. So, by his logic, people who don't actually know what went down shouldn't talk at all. Yet he requested several times to speak on State of the Game about the issue. From that I can assume that he's NOT a ' no name random', and he's definitely NOT someone who just wanted to get on State of the Game to boost his fame, and that he actually knows what went down. So... why haven't you commented on your own accord? Clear some shit up? No offense, but I'm pretty sure I'm makin' sense here. Or is there something else? On November 14 2011 01:54 tsuxiit wrote: This situation is so confusing. Are you Gus? What is this. Is this real life?
No, he's not. But he claims to be one of the few people who truly know what went down. On November 14 2011 01:52 Roggay wrote: Lol... this guy is Gus? Or are you just joking / suspecting? Definitely one or the other. Or both. Dude... It's Gus... http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/163736469#19http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398¤tpage=229#4810gg That doesn't really prove anything?
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On November 14 2011 02:10 Oktyabr wrote: That's Zanooku, Gus's ign is AZKwitchdoc. AFAIK Zanooku resides in Austrailia.
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On November 14 2011 02:06 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 02:05 Xpace wrote:On November 14 2011 02:02 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:56 Xpace wrote:On November 14 2011 01:42 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote: I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing. There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly. Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability. Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening. The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors. Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic. At least stop talking about yourself in third person, like you're someone else Gus - It's pretty pathetic He's not Gus, but apparently he knows what went down ' behind the scenes'. What's confusing about his post is how he's insulting the people who weren't involved in the incident, saying they're ' no name randoms' (that pretty much translates to 'scrubs'), hopping on a bandwagon. So, by his logic, people who don't actually know what went down shouldn't talk at all. Yet he requested several times to speak on State of the Game about the issue. From that I can assume that he's NOT a ' no name random', and he's definitely NOT someone who just wanted to get on State of the Game to boost his fame, and that he actually knows what went down. So... why haven't you commented on your own accord? Clear some shit up? No offense, but I'm pretty sure I'm makin' sense here. Or is there something else? On November 14 2011 01:54 tsuxiit wrote: This situation is so confusing. Are you Gus? What is this. Is this real life?
No, he's not. But he claims to be one of the few people who truly know what went down. On November 14 2011 01:52 Roggay wrote: Lol... this guy is Gus? Or are you just joking / suspecting? Definitely one or the other. Or both. Dude... It's Gus... http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/163736469#19http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398¤tpage=229#4810gg That doesn't really prove anything? Well, i could link you his picture from a tournament he entered under the nick hes posting on here, but that wouldn't be propper, as he's quite the unpopular guy I hear
That's Zanooku, Gus's ign is AZKwitchdoc. AFAIK Zanooku resides in Austrailia.
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kinda sad. Lof is pretty legendary back in their wc3 days though
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On November 14 2011 02:05 Xpace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 02:02 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:56 Xpace wrote:On November 14 2011 01:42 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote: I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing. There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly. Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability. Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening. The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors. Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic. At least stop talking about yourself in third person, like you're someone else Gus - It's pretty pathetic He's not Gus, but apparently he knows what went down ' behind the scenes'. What's confusing about his post is how he's insulting the people who weren't involved in the incident, saying they're ' no name randoms' (that pretty much translates to 'scrubs'), hopping on a bandwagon. So, by his logic, people who don't actually know what went down shouldn't talk at all. Yet he requested several times to speak on State of the Game about the issue. From that I can assume that he's NOT a ' no name random', and he's definitely NOT someone who just wanted to get on State of the Game to boost his fame, and that he actually knows what went down. So... why haven't you commented on your own accord? Clear some shit up? No offense, but I'm pretty sure I'm makin' sense here. Or is there something else? On November 14 2011 01:54 tsuxiit wrote: This situation is so confusing. Are you Gus? What is this. Is this real life?
No, he's not. But he claims to be one of the few people who truly know what went down. On November 14 2011 01:52 Roggay wrote: Lol... this guy is Gus? Or are you just joking / suspecting? Definitely one or the other. Or both. Dude... It's Gus... http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/163736469#19http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398¤tpage=229#4810gg That doesn't really prove anything? ya, it's not him, although if you are bored and you google zanooku and read some posts about this fellow in AZK he seems to be pretty BM and racist at times.
Link to Zanooku aka Zeik THROWDOWN!
Jun posts a Facebook conversation + Show Spoiler +is zanooku still in GM? heard a funny story about him calling out KJH to fight him and here's the story recounted by someone who saw it all unfold (sorry about the formatting, FB chat sucks balls): Mark: lol well zanooku threatened to bash kjh and then kjh turned up so not all kjeyboard warriors shuld be taken lightly lol Me: ROFL when did that happen mark? is zanooku still a scrawny little guy? Mark: at elysium oin the weekend lol yup absolutly tiny was hilarious he was apparently beign racist to kjh Me: LOL Mark: called him out told him to show up so he could bash him with his 10 mates then kjh did turn up Me: ahahahahahahahahah Mark: with his twin brother and there both big dude s Me: that's so badass Mark: lol was so awkward all these nerds playign video games Me: so good Mark: then in he marches potato bails him up hardcore he poopy himjself his "10 boys" turned out to be one fat dude, and one skinny dude so not alot of help there but yeh only thing is zanooku could get him for assault if he wanted Me: AHAHAHAAHA Mark: i dont think he will though, his online personality took a pretty big battering from that i mean if he poopy talks again people just need to say "oh so ur gonna bash me like u did kjh at elysium??"
and first-person account from LabyriBlue's friend. + Show Spoiler +basically his brother went right up to him and grabbed his shirt and demanded an apology, and zanooku was like "whoa what? i don't know who you are" and then KJH started naming all of the incidents where zan was spewing racism, and was saying "i want a ******* apology" zanooku ignorantly goes "i'm sorry, but i don't know who you are" and then KJH raised his fist, and that was when zanooku started looking down at his mousepad and playing with this hands and EveSigns went over to hold KJH back before he actually took a swing, and zanooku was trying to say "i wasn't being racist". that just made KJH and his brother even more angry, and started talking about how zanooku was a piss weak bitch at LAN etc etc then every time that KJH yelled about the racist events zan just says "that wasn't me", which caused Solis to yell "ZANOOKU YOU'RE NOT MAKING THIS BETTER FOR YOURSELF, JUST SHUT THE **** UP" and then KJH looked at zan's monitor and said "I don't even ******* play this game!" which completely broke the tension, and we all cracked up. but on their way out of the room, KJH told zan to never come to brisbane lan again or he'd get bashed for reali felt really sorry for the guy sitting next to me (phoneheha i think his alias was, nicest guy i've ever met) because he was playing a tournament match against HuT >.<
I need to do my essay now, but I had a good laugh.
Edit: good thing I don't look pathetic!
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oh gosh... wow... I am ready to be proven pathetic but as for now, im going to ask for ANY statement... if gus cares AT ALL about AZK, he would have come to the community already instead of this shitstorm boil and wait until everyone forgets before he comes back
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On November 14 2011 02:16 Utinni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 02:05 Xpace wrote:On November 14 2011 02:02 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:56 Xpace wrote:On November 14 2011 01:42 ELA wrote:On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote: I wasn't looking for support, I'm just sick of every no name random commenting on the issue, when they know absolutely nothing, they're just hopping on the bandwagon because it's what everyone else is doing. There's no actual `proof` of fraudulent behavior yet, and until there is lay off it, honestly. Gus has been super busy as he also has a full time job to attend to (that has crazy hours), and has restricted his availability. Until everything is finished, there's absolutely no reason to give anyone "updates" on what's happening. The only people that matter to it are the sponsors and staff of the event, no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors. Sure, there was a few things that happened (With YJY, and Team Cube players), and they will all be explained fully once the more important things are chased up.
Until then, lay off.
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic. At least stop talking about yourself in third person, like you're someone else Gus - It's pretty pathetic He's not Gus, but apparently he knows what went down ' behind the scenes'. What's confusing about his post is how he's insulting the people who weren't involved in the incident, saying they're ' no name randoms' (that pretty much translates to 'scrubs'), hopping on a bandwagon. So, by his logic, people who don't actually know what went down shouldn't talk at all. Yet he requested several times to speak on State of the Game about the issue. From that I can assume that he's NOT a ' no name random', and he's definitely NOT someone who just wanted to get on State of the Game to boost his fame, and that he actually knows what went down. So... why haven't you commented on your own accord? Clear some shit up? No offense, but I'm pretty sure I'm makin' sense here. Or is there something else? On November 14 2011 01:54 tsuxiit wrote: This situation is so confusing. Are you Gus? What is this. Is this real life?
No, he's not. But he claims to be one of the few people who truly know what went down. On November 14 2011 01:52 Roggay wrote: Lol... this guy is Gus? Or are you just joking / suspecting? Definitely one or the other. Or both. Dude... It's Gus... http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/163736469#19http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398¤tpage=229#4810gg That doesn't really prove anything? ya, it's not him, although if you are bored and you google zanooku and read some posts about this fellow in AZK he seems to be pretty BM and racist at times. Link to Zanooku aka Zeik THROWDOWN!Jun posts a Facebook conversation + Show Spoiler +is zanooku still in GM? heard a funny story about him calling out KJH to fight him and here's the story recounted by someone who saw it all unfold (sorry about the formatting, FB chat sucks balls): Mark: lol well zanooku threatened to bash kjh and then kjh turned up so not all kjeyboard warriors shuld be taken lightly lol Me: ROFL when did that happen mark? is zanooku still a scrawny little guy? Mark: at elysium oin the weekend lol yup absolutly tiny was hilarious he was apparently beign racist to kjh Me: LOL Mark: called him out told him to show up so he could bash him with his 10 mates then kjh did turn up Me: ahahahahahahahahah Mark: with his twin brother and there both big dude s Me: that's so badass Mark: lol was so awkward all these nerds playign video games Me: so good Mark: then in he marches potato bails him up hardcore he poopy himjself his "10 boys" turned out to be one fat dude, and one skinny dude so not alot of help there but yeh only thing is zanooku could get him for assault if he wanted Me: AHAHAHAAHA Mark: i dont think he will though, his online personality took a pretty big battering from that i mean if he poopy talks again people just need to say "oh so ur gonna bash me like u did kjh at elysium??" and first-person account from LabyriBlue's friend. + Show Spoiler +basically his brother went right up to him and grabbed his shirt and demanded an apology, and zanooku was like "whoa what? i don't know who you are" and then KJH started naming all of the incidents where zan was spewing racism, and was saying "i want a ******* apology" zanooku ignorantly goes "i'm sorry, but i don't know who you are" and then KJH raised his fist, and that was when zanooku started looking down at his mousepad and playing with this hands and EveSigns went over to hold KJH back before he actually took a swing, and zanooku was trying to say "i wasn't being racist". that just made KJH and his brother even more angry, and started talking about how zanooku was a piss weak bitch at LAN etc etc then every time that KJH yelled about the racist events zan just says "that wasn't me", which caused Solis to yell "ZANOOKU YOU'RE NOT MAKING THIS BETTER FOR YOURSELF, JUST SHUT THE **** UP" and then KJH looked at zan's monitor and said "I don't even ******* play this game!" which completely broke the tension, and we all cracked up. but on their way out of the room, KJH told zan to never come to brisbane lan again or he'd get bashed for reali felt really sorry for the guy sitting next to me (phoneheha i think his alias was, nicest guy i've ever met) because he was playing a tournament match against HuT >.<
I need to do my essay now, but I had a good laugh. Edit: good thing I don't look pathetic!
LOLWUT. I can't/won't believe everything I read, especially on the Internet, but that's fucking joke.
On an unrelated note, AZKZiek wanted to go on State of the Game to comment on the entire situation, because he felt "people who don't know the truth will just make things worse", as his comments on this thread agree with. It didn't go through, but I'm rather interested in what he would have said if it went through.
Seriously Matt, if you think your voice in this entire issue matters, enough that you should be watched by thousands of people in the eSPORTS community, an overwhelming majority of whom belong in the 'random no-name' category you so despise, you should speak up now. Make a post about it. Clear some shit up, because not commenting is the WORST thing you can do.
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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote: EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
pretty sure most of us would rather look like PATHETIC NECKBEARDS than to see the shitstorm be a con by some dude who apparently has working hours longer than a 100 hour work week banker
Atleast give the damn girl her money
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LOL... I liked the story about KJH and that bm rLsZanooKu guy.. he really has a big mouth..
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calling being scrubs, pathetic etc in a pr thread. im not sure is a good idea
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This has disaster written all over it
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I was shitting myself until I seen Naz's post and realized it was b4 indeed. Wonder what Lof thinks of his new partner. The best thing they can say about Lof is wc3 members? Maybe we can hope that AzK learns wc3 and goes there before they shit on sc2 scene anymore
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On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic.
I would be happy to be made to look like a pathetic scrub. Just please give the girl her money and don't ruin her life.
Also insulting the teamliquid community for trying to stand up for the community its self and the people part of it is really foolish of you. We just want things resolved and right now Gus/AZK looks terrible in this entire situation and there is some girl whos life could be ruined because of the things you did. We are not idiots jumping on a bandwagon, we are trying to protect what we love and those who we care about.
Edit: How the fuck can you call Nazgul a "no-name random"...?
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How stupid do you have to be, to call Nazgul "no-name random." Even if you never heard of the team/site owner, you should at least noticed that Liquid' tag.
If AZKziek isn't Gus, I am even more worried about Team AZK. Two fools under one roof can't be an coincidence.
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On November 14 2011 02:34 Primadog wrote: How stupid do you have to be, to call Nazgul "no-name random." Even if you never heard of the team/site owner, you should at least noticed that Liquid' tag.
If AZKziek isn't Gus, I am even more worried about Team AZK. Two fools under one roof can't be an coincidence. makes you wonder how many more they have lol
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On November 14 2011 02:34 Primadog wrote: How stupid do you have to be, to call Nazgul "no-name random." Even if you never heard of the team/site owner, you should at least noticed that Liquid' tag.
If AZKziek isn't Gus, I am even more worried about Team AZK. Two fools under one roof can't be an coincidence.
This yes... I thought surely Gus was the only AZK member involved but this ziek person makes me think otherwise. I don't see how anyone, no matter what their relationship with Gus can support him now.
Also, pretty funny that he calls people "random no-names" when that's essentially what his clan is... a bunch of random no-names. Get over yourself buddy, no-one even knew about your little clan until you somehow conned sickness into joining.
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On November 14 2011 02:34 Kamikiri wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote:
EDIT: I'm not going to argue with anyone anymore on this thread, take it or leave it. I don't give a flying f*ck what you think. Follow the rumors / false accusations all you want.
When the truth comes out you're just going to look pathetic. I would be happy to be made to look like a pathetic scrub. Just please give the girl her money and don't ruin her life. Also insulting the teamliquid community for trying to stand up for the community its self and the people part of it is really foolish of you. We just want things resolved and right now Gus/AZK looks terrible in this entire situation and there is some girl whos life could be ruined because of the things you did. We are not idiots jumping on a bandwagon, we are trying to protect what we love and those who we care about. Edit: How the fuck can you call Nazgul a "no-name random"...?
Yup I was pretty much going to say this in addition to saying that he does not understand PR. I guess he has no interest in making his team look good in any way by insulting everyone here, so it will be even more difficult to get support for them if this all blows over. If Gus does pay everyone, and then he is no longer associated with the team, we can still see the management is not very respectful to the people who eagerly want to make sure things go right since we all enjoy eSports. Meh.
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havent heard of these guys, gl to them tho
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On November 14 2011 00:53 AZKziek wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs. Basing the entire AZK Team off of an event that has no solid proof that there was any fraudulent behavior. Your support is truly breathtaking.
On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs.
Liquid`Nazgul
On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote: I'm just sick of every no name random.
On November 14 2011 01:37 AZKziek wrote: no random scrub from the community that derps along with everyone else, and their stupid rumors.
Liquid`Nazgul Oh boy. Looks like Gus wasn't the only one behind this mess.
For the past week or so, all Gus has been doing is repeating "There's two sides to a story" like a parrot. Actually, he did have time to write his grand "Thank you A,B,C,D,E,F, and we'll do better next time!" apology, he did have time to get "wasted by tasteless, daym", and apparently he did have enough time to go on Inside of the Game but most unfortunately his mic decided to go MIA. I highly doubt that whatever job Gus Ledesma has, it can possibly keep him from taking 15 minutes of his time to explain himself during the span of a week. He's been intentionally skirting around the issue as much as possible. Amanda/Clive/TheGunRun and his PPSL staff still haven't been paid. There is still zero believable excuse for what he did to YJY and Team Cube.
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