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On November 13 2011 19:58 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 19:50 moltenlead wrote:On November 13 2011 19:47 Ruscour wrote:On November 13 2011 19:45 SeaSwift wrote:On November 13 2011 19:44 Arterial wrote:On November 13 2011 19:41 Kabocha wrote:
Congratz!
Good man Gus, savior of E-sports woah careful when you use the phrase "savior of e-sports" I think that was the joke, considering that Gus is considered to be an absolute dickhead by the majority of the TL community. He could mean sAviOr of eSports... Clever... Not Clever at all.... That's a complete insult to sAviOr, the best SC:BW player of all time. Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 19:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
That's some nerve. Is Lof ignorant? Yes, it seems Lof is completely ignorant. What a sad, sad day. I hope this breaks off fairly swiftly.
Nope, Flash is the best player of all time and sAviOr is selfish and corrupted just like how Gus is. Can't believe people still stick up for sAviOr after dealing a huge blow to BW.
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Can someone warn Lof about all this?
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On November 13 2011 20:14 Primadog wrote:
Can someone warn Lof about all this?
They already know.. but they haven't commented after they said they will ask for AZK's side of the story.
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Why does lof do that after gus incident Oo
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On November 13 2011 20:03 calvinL wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 19:58 Shinta) wrote:On November 13 2011 19:50 moltenlead wrote:On November 13 2011 19:47 Ruscour wrote:On November 13 2011 19:45 SeaSwift wrote:On November 13 2011 19:44 Arterial wrote:On November 13 2011 19:41 Kabocha wrote:
Congratz!
Good man Gus, savior of E-sports woah careful when you use the phrase "savior of e-sports" I think that was the joke, considering that Gus is considered to be an absolute dickhead by the majority of the TL community. He could mean sAviOr of eSports... Clever... Not Clever at all.... That's a complete insult to sAviOr, the best SC:BW player of all time. On November 13 2011 19:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
That's some nerve. Is Lof ignorant? Yes, it seems Lof is completely ignorant. What a sad, sad day. I hope this breaks off fairly swiftly. Nope, Flash is the best player of all time and sAviOr is selfish and corrupted just like how Gus is. Can't believe people still stick up for sAviOr after dealing a huge blow to BW.
Sorry but Flash isn't the best player of all time over sAviOr. His negative actions don't reflect his gameplay. Nobody talked about his contributions to the game as an eSports. The only comment that was made was about his talent and results. Flash is the best player right now, but he doesn't surpass sAviOr. The contributions and games that he gave the the sc:bw community were by far the best in bw history, regardless of the mistakes he made in the past. He helped swindle money, and was banned from bw for it, but that was after providing the best contributions to sc:bw of all time. Flash is just solid and better than everyone that plays the game today.
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On November 13 2011 20:03 calvinL wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 19:58 Shinta) wrote:On November 13 2011 19:50 moltenlead wrote:On November 13 2011 19:47 Ruscour wrote:On November 13 2011 19:45 SeaSwift wrote:On November 13 2011 19:44 Arterial wrote:On November 13 2011 19:41 Kabocha wrote:
Congratz!
Good man Gus, savior of E-sports woah careful when you use the phrase "savior of e-sports" I think that was the joke, considering that Gus is considered to be an absolute dickhead by the majority of the TL community. He could mean sAviOr of eSports... Clever... Not Clever at all.... That's a complete insult to sAviOr, the best SC:BW player of all time. On November 13 2011 19:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
That's some nerve. Is Lof ignorant? Yes, it seems Lof is completely ignorant. What a sad, sad day. I hope this breaks off fairly swiftly. Nope, Flash is the best player of all time and sAviOr is selfish and corrupted just like how Gus is. Can't believe people still stick up for sAviOr after dealing a huge blow to BW.
Well, this is kind of really off topic, but "at least" sAviOr "only" scammed his fans who did something illegal in the first place (i.e. betting on the games). Anyways, either Team AZK throws out Gus asap with a clean message how the team thinks of what he has done, or I hope Lof makes a run for the hills. I wonder how much time has to pass till any of this happens though.
btw. just wanted to add that savior was properly prosecuted and got his sentence for the shit he did.
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As long as that Gus-guy is still part of your organization, I will do everything I can to avoid supporting you. LoF should seriously reconsidder this arrangement
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Gus did things that actually ruined eSports. Fuck the BW scandal, we all love sAviOr.
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actually team azk is disbanded, some of us are scattered and teamless (I myself consider having no team association due to the amount of stress)
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On November 13 2011 21:19 ReaperX wrote:
Gus did things that actually ruined eSports. Fuck the BW scandal, we all love sAviOr.
Speak for yourself
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On November 13 2011 21:19 ReaperX wrote:
Gus did things that actually ruined eSports. Fuck the BW scandal, we all love sAviOr.
ha ha oh wow. "fuck the bw scandal"? you can't ignore that what savior did had an impact leagues beyond anything gus ever does.
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why is this becoming a whos the worst sAviOr or gus?  .. btw I hope lof will run away :D
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Savior didn't set back e-sports at all...herp derp
![[image loading]](http://i53.tinypic.com/73fbyw.jpg)
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sAviOr as a PLAYER is the best of all time imho. The way he changed the game and his strategy.... has not been surpassed.
Flash is just a perfectly solid player and better than everyone else aside from maybe JD, sometimes. Not taking anything away from Flash, but I think sAviOr is better.
Damn sAviOr, y u scandal... I wish you were still playing =(
edit: this thread shouldnt be about savior vs gus lol, i think we all know just how bad what savior did was. as bad as it sounds, gus only set back the SEA scene, not ALL OF ESPORTS scene.
LoF better run outta this asap, but isn't AZK essentially disbanded anyway?
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continuing the OT: While savior did things that damages e-sports on a larger scale than gus, he at least contributed plenty as well as a bonjwa and leader of the zergs for a long time before the scandals.
What gus did may be on a smaller scale, but as far as I know, he has contributed less than savior as well. If we look at the ratio of bad things done divided by good things done, maybe gus and savior are comparable? gus maybe is like a mini-savior, or savior wanna-be? I have no idea how much gus contributed in that clan before this drama came out though.
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Really hope this clan realize the mistake they have made.
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so, is it okay to continue the ot? then I might as well add my own opinion.
The reason why the damage savior created was "on a larger scale" than what gus did is mainly because of two reasons:
1) he was one of the broodwar heroes that were literally worshiped
2) the korean culture, in which starcraft is a legitimate sport, is more sensible to stuff like this
I'm not trying to defend savior or anything like that, but objectively speaking, gus did worse things than he did (scamming the innocent vs scamming people who did something illegal in the first place), it's just that the circumstance that blew the affair around savior so big comparet to gus, who might even go away legally unharmed.
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On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs.
Basing the entire AZK Team off of an event that has no solid proof that there was any fraudulent behavior. Your support is truly breathtaking.
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Wow, a lot of teams partnering, eSports is expanding !
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On November 14 2011 00:53 AZKziek wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 20:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
My bad this was posted before it all happened. I hope Lof runs. Basing the entire AZK Team off of an event that has no solid proof that there was any fraudulent behavior. Your support is truly breathtaking.
well so far your team (if it turly is your team and you are spokeperson for it) has done absolutly nothing to clear up the very shady picture we are left with.
You know it's been almost a week by now, and we still have no information from your side. If you think everything went perfectly and all was legal and above board maybe you should speak up and lay out those points.. The longer you remain silent the more harder it will be to clear up any missunderstanding.
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