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underscore
Profile Joined August 2009
252 Posts
October 26 2011 13:17 GMT
#21
Looks like a scam.

To make people feel safe he doesn't process the payment until enough people have donated a large sum of money and then he pulls the trigger.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
October 26 2011 13:19 GMT
#22
On October 26 2011 22:12 MrBitter wrote:
If it's not, and if I'm smearing somebody's good name, then I am seriously fucking sorry, and I will make it right.

But in the mean time, people need to be made aware of the possibility of a major scam....

Well with you topic naming i would say its 100% scam....
On the topic. I remember day9 vs tastless duking it out during beta. Wasn't very high lvl.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 26 2011 13:19 GMT
#23
On October 26 2011 22:12 MrBitter wrote:
Here's where I stand on this:

For a site to just go up asking for donations, and then be plastered on reddit for thousands of people to upvote (people who are probably too young or uninformed to have ever been scammed before), thus creating hype and garnering more views is very suspicious.

There are countless avenues through which to do this legitimately.

I am personally ALWAYS looking for new ways to promote e-sports and create SC2 related content.

Guys like JP are ALWAYS willing to hear out good ideas (and this is a good idea) and help get them going if legit.

This just feels too shady.

If it's not, and if I'm smearing somebody's good name, then I am seriously fucking sorry, and I will make it right.

But in the mean time, people need to be made aware of the possibility of a major scam....


bitters you should cast the first match they get if it comes true
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GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
October 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#24
Deezer and Combat-Ex also already had a grudge match. It's on Destiny's channel and I think Deezer won (that is, Combat eventually pussied out). It was pretty hilarious though.

Also I'm a little mystified at the choice of Incontrol and Nestea. Why?
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
October 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#25
On October 26 2011 22:23 GentleDrill wrote:
Deezer and Combat-Ex also already had a grudge match. It's on Destiny's channel and I think Deezer won (that is, Combat eventually pussied out). It was pretty hilarious though.

Also I'm a little mystified at the choice of Incontrol and Nestea. Why?

People wanna see an 0 - 5 i guess.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
October 26 2011 13:26 GMT
#26
On October 26 2011 22:00 Subversion wrote:
day9 vs tasteless already happened bros

tasteless won

what when?
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
October 26 2011 13:28 GMT
#27
On October 26 2011 22:23 GentleDrill wrote:
Deezer and Combat-Ex also already had a grudge match. It's on Destiny's channel and I think Deezer won (that is, Combat eventually pussied out). It was pretty hilarious though.

Also I'm a little mystified at the choice of Incontrol and Nestea. Why?

well...this one is obvious..to see if Nestea can survive 5 minutes of incontrol's onslaught
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
October 26 2011 13:28 GMT
#28
If anyone gets scammed, he will let the community know and we will blackmail it. Until that happends, let's be open minded and give it a chance.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
October 26 2011 13:31 GMT
#29
Honestly, I am quite appalled at the attitude of people calling this "100% scam" before even giving the guy a chance to come on here and explain himself. I agree that he shouldn't of put the website live until he had some backing from a few players, as otherwise it's a complete waste of his time.

What I can say though, as a Web Developer myself, is that the site is very well put together and although it's pretty basic, it would still have taken this guy a decent amount of his own time to put it together (not to mention the idea is pretty cool!).

TL;DR - Don't bash people immediately without prior evidence and don't donate any money toward showmatches until we know more about it.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45017 Posts
October 26 2011 13:31 GMT
#30
On October 26 2011 21:56 IMABUNNEH wrote:
As long as they don't charge until it happens I think it's ok. It's a well designed site at least.


I just want Tasteless vs Day9 D=


You missed it the first time?

To be honest, I don't think either of them would really want to play a showmatch... it would probably be embarrassing
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
October 26 2011 13:31 GMT
#31
This thread is silly x1000

Yes this looks like it's either a scam or a really stupid idea. But are we going to have a new thread on TL for every video game related scam that comes out? I mean there must be dozens of things like this in the community, not to mention hacks that try to steal passwords/logins for Blizz games. I don't think we need a new thread on every single one.

On October 26 2011 22:12 MrBitter wrote:
For a site to just go up asking for donations, and then be plastered on reddit for thousands of people to upvote (people who are probably too young or uninformed to have ever been scammed before),


Then wouldn't time be much better spent educating people on why they should not give money to random people on the internet? Or maybe using this as an example of how to detect possible scams and avoid being taken? Making a thread that says 'I think this is a scam but I don't know' isn't super useful.

On October 26 2011 22:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
I think you gave the site more light and awareness than how little it had before.


Yes.

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
October 26 2011 13:32 GMT
#32
On October 26 2011 22:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 21:56 IMABUNNEH wrote:
As long as they don't charge until it happens I think it's ok. It's a well designed site at least.


I just want Tasteless vs Day9 D=


You missed it the first time?

To be honest, I don't think either of them would really want to play a showmatch... it would probably be embarrassing

It was already embarrassing the first time....
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 26 2011 13:32 GMT
#33
I would like to go ahead and chime in.

Based on some research this guy seems like a legit programmer, however I see zero previous contributions to the gaming community.

His website is also registered to an address that isn't his (called the residency because I'm bored... they had no idea who this guy was).

I would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and just let things play out, though. That being said I personally wouldn't donate, regardless of who was running it, unless the actual players in the requested matches publicly stated they would participate in the first place.
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MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
October 26 2011 13:35 GMT
#34
Genius idea imho. This looks very promising
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 13:41:26
October 26 2011 13:35 GMT
#35
I don't know. I don't see anything on the page that makes it look like an obvious scam. My optimistic guess would be that this is someone trying to make something awesome, who started taking donations in order to have more heft when trying to start a conversation with casters and players. If that's the case, I think the judgement involved was questionable, but not anything to get upset about.

On the other hand, it's entirely possible that when the Day9 v Tasteless match gets high enough, he'll just hit the button to collect the money and no one will ever hear from him again. I don't know what kind of support PayPal has for something like this where you only have to pay if an event actually takes place, but I'd guess it's just on the honor system.

My feeling is this is legit: The website doesn't look cheaply cobbled together either at the rendering level or in the code, which I would expect for someone running a con that's only going to work once.

My suggestion if you're concerned and want to find out more is to drop the guy a line who registered the page. According to WHOIS, provpro.org is owned by a dude in Massachusets named Xavi Ramirez. I'll write him an e-mail and see if he wants to come respond to this thread.

Edit: E-Mail sent. I invited Mr. Ramirez to either send me an e-mail or just post here himself.
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Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
October 26 2011 13:42 GMT
#36
Seems suspect... but I guess we'll see soon enough when people complain about money lost
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
October 26 2011 13:45 GMT
#37
looks werid. but I wouldn't call him a scammer just because he put up this website. Will have to see.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
October 26 2011 13:47 GMT
#38
MrBitter vs MrRamirez Grudge Match! I'd donate 10 Dollar for that.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
October 26 2011 13:51 GMT
#39
On October 26 2011 22:47 TBO wrote:
MrBitter vs MrRamirez Grudge Match! I'd donate 10 Dollar for that.

casted by Rotterdam + Carmac ^^
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
October 26 2011 13:51 GMT
#40
Does indeed look kinda shady, hmm :s
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