On October 24 2011 03:19 farvacola wrote:
Bunch of nerd forum posters shaming the sluts that haven't and would never fuck them? Sounds about right.

On October 24 2011 03:07 infinitestory wrote:
hey thanks to your OP which has given a really shitty and (dare i say) biased account of the situation, there are now as many pitchforks in the thread replies as in the OP itself

Sounds about right...

koreasilver

9109 Posts

October 23 2011 18:37 GMT

#43

Eh. I was reading through that thread before this guy made this blog post, and it is incredibly embarassing. Not really surprising at all, since these kind of things have always been said on TL as far back as I can remember, and on the internet as a whole anyway. As far as I'm concerned, nothing has really changed. It's just another reminder that even on TL a significant portion of its population are retards.

jeeeeohn

United States1343 Posts

October 23 2011 18:51 GMT

#44

On October 24 2011 01:49 Firesilver wrote:

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So if "nerds" also look down upon what most of society also looks down upon, "we" are in the wrong? That's plain retarded.

If she wasn't involved in eSports, and she walked into a football game for example and did the same thing, you'd get the same if not even worse response from people involved/watching.

First of all, I used nerd in a jokey connotation, since I'm obviously a nerd, duh.

Second of all, yes, bashing women for being promiscuous is bad, son. I'm not in the wrong about that, I assure you.

And about the football analogy, what's your point exactly? "Slut shaming" is stupid no matter who does it.

I don't know, I think you just misunderstood my post, now that I think about it. I was just saying we shouldn't have this shit on TeamLiquid, period, and who cares? It's not me, it's not you; just some random chick who decided to break some guy's heart.

Ikonn

Netherlands1958 Posts

October 23 2011 18:57 GMT

#45

man that second quote is something special. Armchair psychology at its best

Praetorial

United States4241 Posts

October 23 2011 19:14 GMT

#46

After reading about this on Reddit, I can now state with certainty that the majority of people who complain about this are just waaaaay too excited by it.

A.Why do we care?

B.As a logical step from (A), does any of this affect anything or anyone we care about.

If you decide that both (A) and (B) are "We don't/it doesn't", then don't give a damn.

This entire thing is messed up in so many ways.

Riku

United States1064 Posts

October 23 2011 19:19 GMT

#47

As much as I can understand the anger and disappointment, I think it is bad to call out anyone in such harsh ways.

Once upon a time, I was crazy for this guy I was dating. We dated for about a year, then drama happened and we broke up. We kept seeing each other after a bit of a break, and, about four months later, it really seemed like we were getting back together (we were going on dates, hanging out, etc). One night, I slept with him again and, in the morning, we were snuggling together and he told me he loved me.

That very night, he got drunk and fucked some random girl he didn't know. It really broke me when he greeted me the next day, hickies covering his neck, less than 24 hours after he slept with me and told me he loved me. I went nuts. I raged, I cried.

And you know what? No one cared. I went on huge rants about how much of a jerk/man-slut/asshole he was to do that. In the end, I just ended up making myself look crazy.

Now, almost two years later, I look back on the incident and realize that all of that raging probably was a bit crazy. That calling him out and trying to get the world to see his cruelty was not the right response. Yeah, it sucks, yeah, maybe he was a "slut," but that's no reason to run around and share my drama with the world.

Now, if I think my reaction was misplaced in my case, which seems to be much more defined, direct and extreme, I have a hard time finding anyone being able to justifying throwing out such cruel language to a poor girl who kissed some boys.

Yeah, maybe she deserves it (which I doubt, I think using a word as harsh as "slut" on someone for kissing other people is too extreme), but maybe she got peer-pressured in to saying a few things she really didn't mean and is just searching around trying to find Mr. Right in a more hands-on way than some others do.

:/

I'm a little too worn out after Blizzcon to be more coherant, but I really think the term "slut" is overused. Due to my costumes (yes, I know some of them have been extremely skimpy, but my intent has always been to make cool looking costumes, not show off my flesh), I have been called a "slut." It hurts, it really hurts, especially when I am in a relationship where I would do absolutely anything for my partner. I feel like being called a "slut" is degrading to my relationship, and that really gets under my skin. People can call me an attention whore or whatever shit they want, but I will not stand for people saying negative things about my relation with someone who means so much to me.

*end rant*

Bleh... seriously, everyone just play nice. That's the key to winning the Internet.

Probe1

United States17920 Posts

October 23 2011 19:23 GMT

#48

....

User was warned for this post

Sermokala

United States14155 Posts

October 23 2011 19:25 GMT

#49

I really don't even care and I hate all this " oh we need to start treating women differently" I mean we're nerds there tends to be more guy nerd then girl nerds. That isn't beacuse women get treated "worse" then guys that's beacuse they try to come it and think that being a women makes them special and should be treated differently.

If she wants to whore around the pro gamers then I don't give a fuck if people give her shit about it. If people want girls to be treated with the same respect then they shouldn't think having sex with multiple people the way to get around to it.

When a Women plays on a top team then I'll respect them as a gamer, If they are a good caster thats gretorp level then I'll respect them as a caster, if they contibute to the community (like riku) then I'll remember they're name and listen to what they have to say, otherwise they're just another Esport's mark like the rest of us.

Stop feeding trolls with getting mad over it. they don't give a fuck they're just trying to start drama and feel like they're apart of it. Mods should warn/ban more people for these things but in the end its just you and then thats talking.

Edit: riku posted. What she said.

hp.Shell

United States2527 Posts

October 23 2011 19:36 GMT

#50

1. Emotional abuse is wrong. Therefore, the woman that is the subject of all this drama was in the wrong by intentionally emotionally abusing a man.

2. It is also wrong to make a big deal about it, because this also constitutes emotional abuse of the woman in question by the sub-community who made it a big deal.

3. Therefore, I don't give a fuck, but I will say that both sides were wrong in the topic discussed in the op.

Firesilver

United Kingdom1190 Posts

October 23 2011 20:01 GMT

#51

On October 24 2011 03:51 jeeeeohn wrote:

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I don't know, I think you just misunderstood my post, now that I think about it. I was just saying we shouldn't have this shit on TeamLiquid, period, and who cares? It's not me, it's not you; just some random chick who decided to break some guy's heart.

I agree with this part. This stuff shouldn't be here.

Probe1

United States17920 Posts

October 23 2011 20:19 GMT

#52

Indeed, there is no reason to publicly humiliate someone unless you are directly involved and the person is completely without remorse.

but being the internet and all, everything anyones ever done is somewhere.

EvilTeletubby

Baltimore, USA22259 Posts

October 24 2011 00:40 GMT

#53

Closing - the concerns would have been more relevant in the thread itself, website feedback, or just reporting some of the offenders. It doesn't really warrant a thread-about-the-thread.