• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:40
CEST 02:40
KST 09:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event5Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 194Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups StarCon Philadelphia BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams BW General Discussion Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 618 users

In which TLers defend slut shaming - Page 2

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:23:06
October 23 2011 16:21 GMT
#21
On October 24 2011 01:18 Probe1 wrote:
Uh, look at what happened to Ret. He's a genuinely nice and great guy but the 'community' still lashed out against him when he kissed a girl that had a bf.

I dont think that any backlash against ret lasted very long. I remember not caring so much at the time.
(iirc he took a girl back to the netherlands with him from MLG, I think it might have been a fans GF or something)
I dont really remember the whole story, but I remember not caring all that much, and I dont think most people did either. My point is just that men and women are held to different standards when it comes to promiscuity, and "Celebrities" (For the sake of argument lets call Ret a celebrity) are held to an entirely different standard.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:25:02
October 23 2011 16:24 GMT
#22
Well I don't see anyone (extensively) making fun of Milkies or Riku for their past drama. This is going so much further than it needs to. Just ban trolls/internet misogynists and move on imo.

edit auto correct being a piece of shit
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:25:49
October 23 2011 16:25 GMT
#23
On October 24 2011 01:24 Probe1 wrote:
Well I don't see anyone (extensively) making fun of Milkies or Riku for their past drama. This is going so much further than it needs to. Just ban trolls/internet misogynists and move on imo.

edit auto correct being a piece of shit


Ok, agreed.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:32:42
October 23 2011 16:26 GMT
#24
On October 24 2011 01:10 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 01:08 Probe1 wrote:
If MC or Jinro or TLO were openly whoring around we would respond the same way (mostly)


Would we? Because I wouldn't.

As IdrA has put it: "Personality is irrelevant."


Yes we would.

In case Jinro or TLO or somebody on TL pulled something like this out and was blatantly public about it (which they wouldn't do anyway), it's be silly to believe there would be no response from the fans. Ret received some flak for that MLG Columbus thing even though it was nowhere near as bad.

PS. Idra knows how relevant personality is probably more than any other player, and he's milking it to the max. What people say and what people think are not always the same thing.


On October 24 2011 01:11 PassiveAce wrote:
I mean, isn't Rekrul known for screwing hookers? He's still one of the most well respected members of the community. (Not a perfect analogy but I think its fitting)


It's not that easy to attain the Rekrul status in this community.

Besides, I wasn't aware he was that known for "screwing hookers" as he seems to be a little classier than that. You might be reading too much into his lifestyle.

Obviously I don't know shit about him, but based on what he posts here I wouldn't say he's known for screwing hookers. -_-
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
October 23 2011 16:27 GMT
#25
I don't know about this particular case but "slut shaming" (rofl what a way to put it) doesn't really bother me. I'm not going to encourage it though but I'm allowed to feel a certain way about people that act a certain way.

People that are overly promiscuous don't really sit well with me, girl or guy, at a video game tournament or not. It's just a question of morals for me. I'm not going to go judge people 1 by 1 because I know it's the standard these days but that doesn't mean I need to accept their choice; just tolerate it.

It still bothers me when people flaunt it, like certain bloggers on this site. It bothers me in real life too. I leave them alone but I certainly don't want to end up with a girl like that.

I know I hold unpopular beliefs amongst my generation but I'd rather be unpopular than lie to myself and say I agree with how people act.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:32:55
October 23 2011 16:28 GMT
#26
On October 24 2011 01:24 Probe1 wrote:
Well I don't see anyone (extensively) making fun of Milkies or Riku for their past drama. This is going so much further than it needs to. Just ban trolls/internet misogynists and move on imo.

edit auto correct being a piece of shit


Maybe not on TL, but Kelly gets a lot of shit on Reddit. Then again, everyone on Reddit gets/gives shit to everyone else. But trolls and misogynists really do ruin sites, and when it is over something like this... just move on :/
But thanks for bringing it to attention OP.

EDIT: <3 for Probe1
행운을 빌어요 재미
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:36:02
October 23 2011 16:31 GMT
#27
Fair point from both of you. The internet is generally a shitty place for XX. I only read reddit when someone links something so I'm in no position to comment on the treatment of women there.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:46:45
October 23 2011 16:42 GMT
#28
Just a boatload of nonsense. Nerds need to start treating the fairer sex with some respect. With that said, this really isn't representative of Team Liquid in general.

And with THAT said, that chick shouldn't have made out with a bunch of dudes if she knew someone with a huge crush on her was planning on meeting up at IEM. I mean, wouldn't she know just by common sense that she'd crush the guy's heart? It's just a shitty thing to do IF SHE MADE PLANS.

If she didn't make plans, then who cares? Make out with every guy in the building if you want.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I don't care either way. I'm not a promiscuous person, but if someone else want to be it's their body, their choice.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
October 23 2011 16:49 GMT
#29
There's a lot of groupies out there - avoid them.
Sup
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
October 23 2011 16:49 GMT
#30
On October 24 2011 01:42 jeeeeohn wrote:
Just a boatload of nonsense. Nerds need to start treating the fairer sex with some respect. With that said, this really isn't representative of Team Liquid in general.

And with THAT said, that chick shouldn't have made out with a bunch of dudes if she knew someone with a huge crush on her was planning on meeting up at IEM. I mean, wouldn't she know just by common sense that she'd crush the guy's heart? It's just a shitty thing to do IF SHE MADE PLANS.

If she didn't make plans, then who cares? Make out with every guy in the building if you want.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I don't care either way. I'm not a promiscuous person, but if someone else want to be it's their body, their choice.


So if "nerds" also look down upon what most of society also looks down upon, "we" are in the wrong? That's plain retarded.

If she wasn't involved in eSports, and she walked into a football game for example and did the same thing, you'd get the same if not even worse response from people involved/watching.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
Kitkatzy
Profile Joined May 2008
United States213 Posts
October 23 2011 16:49 GMT
#31
On October 24 2011 01:20 RedJustice wrote:
Yeah, this is pretty much why I am so bitter about the community. Shit like this happens a lot. And it's not like it's an attack on one particular girl, it turned into an attack on just women in general. I feel attacked by these kind of posts, and the whole discussion is not about me originally.

Even if it doesn't reflect the viewpoint of the majority of our community, it definitely stands out that most of them can't be fucked to defend another human being from this kind of treatment. :/ When you hear this really vocal minority? and nothing else, it's really easy to feel like everyone else probably agrees. It's depressing.

Thanks for making this blog. <3



I understand how you feel. I will now always take the time to condemn their flawed thinking.
People can't dress like sluts.
Promiscuity isn't a disease.
Curse Kitkatz
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:58:24
October 23 2011 16:57 GMT
#32
I repeatedly want to bring up the attitudes a lot of men seem to have on the Internet towards women (and how it seems more and more often to be spreading to real life) but I realised that I'm probably becoming cynical so I've realised on TL especially it's just too depressing to try to reason with these people - and I could right an entire essay on the issues on how women are treated by the TL community. Edit: I feel I should add - though it's probably obvious - I don't mean every single man on TL.

On the Internet in general aswell though, self proclaimed male right's activists (most of whom have no legitimate claim to that term and only harm the important efforts that are actually needed) seem to be creating a very disturbing world view in male dominated spaces.

Spending a lot of time online I have to say I more often find myself wondering how many men are actually thinking like this in real life too? I'm still sure it's mostly just teenagers online but it's still kinda sad.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
accordion
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada58 Posts
October 23 2011 16:58 GMT
#33
Boring thread without a pic of a chick.

User was temp banned for this post.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 23 2011 16:59 GMT
#34
On October 24 2011 01:27 Kurr wrote:
I don't know about this particular case but "slut shaming" (rofl what a way to put it) doesn't really bother me. I'm not going to encourage it though but I'm allowed to feel a certain way about people that act a certain way.

People that are overly promiscuous don't really sit well with me, girl or guy, at a video game tournament or not. It's just a question of morals for me. I'm not going to go judge people 1 by 1 because I know it's the standard these days but that doesn't mean I need to accept their choice; just tolerate it.

It still bothers me when people flaunt it, like certain bloggers on this site. It bothers me in real life too. I leave them alone but I certainly don't want to end up with a girl like that.

I know I hold unpopular beliefs amongst my generation but I'd rather be unpopular than lie to myself and say I agree with how people act.

That isn't the issue at hand. The issue is that when someone said, "why does no one care when one of the male figures sleeps around, but when one of the female figures do the community at large is so quick to throw the epitaph, 'slut'?", someone else replied with, "well, men and women are different so saying such a thing isn't inherently wrong, you're just being politically correct", which is just completely fucking absurd and doesn't even address the question in a coherent way at all.
accordion
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada58 Posts
October 23 2011 17:03 GMT
#35
Also masterkey vs lock...
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
October 23 2011 17:17 GMT
#36
dnabutt do i g et to be a slut and get shamed
:)
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 23 2011 17:20 GMT
#37
On October 24 2011 02:03 accordion wrote:
Also masterkey vs lock...

Master of getting STDs.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 17:32:19
October 23 2011 17:32 GMT
#38
On October 24 2011 02:20 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 02:03 accordion wrote:
Also masterkey vs lock...

Master of getting STDs.


Not to be harsh, but this is more of a problem with society itself and how it perceives these kinds of people, unfortunately debating this is going to be futile.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
October 23 2011 17:33 GMT
#39
Do people actually believe that stuff or are they just trying to piss me off?
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 23 2011 18:07 GMT
#40
hey thanks to your OP which has given a really shitty and (dare i say) biased account of the situation, there are now as many pitchforks in the thread replies as in the OP itself
Translator:3
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 20m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3378
Artosis 1212
Hyuk 566
EffOrt 466
ggaemo 95
NaDa 62
MaD[AoV]38
Terrorterran 14
Stormgate
JuggernautJason176
Dota 2
monkeys_forever645
NeuroSwarm89
LuMiX1
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King52
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor269
Other Games
tarik_tv16955
summit1g13537
gofns9229
fl0m1305
JimRising 370
ViBE129
ROOTCatZ14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1837
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH142
• RyuSc2 56
• musti20045 36
• davetesta35
• Adnapsc2 10
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21965
League of Legends
• Doublelift5254
Other Games
• Scarra868
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 20m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
14h 20m
BSL
18h 20m
Bonyth vs Hawk
Wardi Open
1d 10h
RotterdaM Event
1d 15h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Online Event
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia LAN
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.