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samaNo4
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Spain245 Posts
October 10 2011 22:59 GMT
#1
Starcraft 2 has come a long way in skill since it was born. It started being a blob vs blob game, but we have been seeing much more micro and smart-thinking as the game grew older. Of course, the skill level hasn't stagnated yet and it will grow even higher, we can see little flashes of it every now and then.

In this thread I'd like you to say which ones have you seen. I'll start with mine.

1. IMNestea vs IMMVP: Nestea is suffering high aggression from MVP with few marines, so he times his zerglings with his dying hatchery to kill the marines with the combined attack of zerglings and broodlings, great move. But MVP reads it and waits for the zerglings to pop out to kill them and then kills the hatchery, another great move.

2. I don't really remember the game. It was a TvP, the Protoss player has charge, so the Terran player sends one unit to activate the charge just before the engagement, great move. The Protoss player rapidly presses hold position on his zealots to avoid the activation of charge, another great move.

They might not seem so spectacular, but in those tension moments, you really need some awsome players to pull those moves off.

It's your time now!
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damod
Profile Joined March 2011
1106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 23:04:07
October 10 2011 23:02 GMT
#2
Kiwikaki's Recall play against stephano in IPL3

The way he abused the fact that stephanos army was very immobile, and recalled his entire army in stephanos main base while Stephanos army is on the seond part of the map.

beautiful play.
EGHuK | EGJaeDong | EGMachine | EGiNcontroL | EGDemusliM | EGStephano <3
seiplo
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden25 Posts
October 10 2011 23:03 GMT
#3
nr 2 looks pretty standard to me, Terran sends 1 marine to scout ur army insted of wasting a scan and protoss not wasting charge / showing that he has charge
im da bawz
Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
October 10 2011 23:04 GMT
#4
kiwips recall play ofcourse..
also nestea´s spine crawler rush!
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
October 10 2011 23:07 GMT
#5
Any time when Leenock's banelings burrow in the middle of a battle and connect with marines, never fails to impress me.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
October 10 2011 23:07 GMT
#6
MVP nuking TOP's entire base
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
October 10 2011 23:08 GMT
#7
I remember both of those moments you mentioned. Truly were flashes of inspiration.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
BrassMonkey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada84 Posts
October 10 2011 23:09 GMT
#8
DRG and his muta retention.

Kid gets mutas so damn well but more importantly, manages to keep them alive while harrassing and scouting constantly with them
TOO EZ
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
October 10 2011 23:09 GMT
#9
Nestea spine crawler pushing a FFE Protoss, I forget who the protoss was, but the move was brilliant.
blah blah blah...
LordOfDabu
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
United States394 Posts
October 10 2011 23:09 GMT
#10
On October 11 2011 07:59 samaNo4 wrote:

2. I don't really remember the game. It was a TvP, the Protoss player has charge, so the Terran player sends one unit to activate the charge just before the engagement, great move. The Protoss player rapidly presses hold position on his zealots to avoid the activation of charge, another great move.



Wouldn't it be easier to just turn off the autocast?
Think fast. Click faster.
Dominico
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada678 Posts
October 10 2011 23:09 GMT
#11
shit...i thought MVPGenius was switching games :O
DeadCell
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada256 Posts
October 10 2011 23:10 GMT
#12
On October 11 2011 08:07 zyzq wrote:
MVP nuking TOP's entire base


THIS

and NesTea's offensive spines against Anypro which was also previously mentioned.

Then again I'm almost always impressed with every game I see of NesTea


If it comes down to you or them, send flowers.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 10 2011 23:14 GMT
#13
On October 11 2011 08:09 slicknav wrote:
Nestea spine crawler pushing a FFE Protoss, I forget who the protoss was, but the move was brilliant.


Yea this, especially because other zergs were getting worked over by this shit back then.



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NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
October 10 2011 23:15 GMT
#14
1. MvP vs Top GSL finalen game 1, insane attack on the main base.
2. KiwiKaki vs Stephano with recall, that was absolutely brilliant.
3. NesTea and ... everything he does. But especially the 4 hatch safe play with 80 drones vs Protoss forge expand, that overnight turned forge expand from a really hard build to play against, into a really easy zerg favored protoss opening. That build changed the matchup so much, with all his timings for evo chamber, spores, gas, queens, spines, perfected, to be safe vs anything.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 10 2011 23:16 GMT
#15
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oz ffe. Curious does roach ling all in. Right before lings hit wall curious floats an overlord in to absorb the first 2-3 cannon shots
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SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
October 10 2011 23:18 GMT
#16
Has to be MKP's marine split in season 2(?). Pretty much standard in terran v zerg
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Stipulation
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States587 Posts
October 10 2011 23:19 GMT
#17
Code A final
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Anybody see Oz's micro in game 2 of the Code-a finals? His FFs were sick all game long.
barrykp
Profile Joined August 2010
Ireland174 Posts
October 10 2011 23:28 GMT
#18
TLO trapping an army by cutting off its retreat with called down mules.

Nerdgasm right there.
Lecture me some more on how to play please; I need help.
sYnRoscoe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States149 Posts
October 10 2011 23:30 GMT
#19
I hallucinated a bunch of units and my zerg opponent left.
http://www.twitch.tv/roscoe_964
Rakasha
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada71 Posts
October 10 2011 23:33 GMT
#20
IdrA spine crawler push with hydra back in the day was a great strat for surviving that rush map.
Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive.
.Enigma
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom116 Posts
October 10 2011 23:34 GMT
#21
Jinro grabbing 4-5 scvs and repairing a mule which had been lifted by a pair of phoenixes.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
October 10 2011 23:34 GMT
#22
- Bomber landing his CC to absorb tank fire before rushing in and demolishing the tank line
- Polt's unbelievable marine split against MMA on Metalopolis.
- Oz's forcefields

I also thought Genius was switching teams or games. =P
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
October 10 2011 23:37 GMT
#23
Sage? on Terminus throwing down 10 pylons to block a doom drop of roaches in his main.
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
October 10 2011 23:37 GMT
#24
Whew, thought this was about Genius leaving or something
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
October 10 2011 23:38 GMT
#25
On October 11 2011 08:09 LordOfDabu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 07:59 samaNo4 wrote:

2. I don't really remember the game. It was a TvP, the Protoss player has charge, so the Terran player sends one unit to activate the charge just before the engagement, great move. The Protoss player rapidly presses hold position on his zealots to avoid the activation of charge, another great move.



Wouldn't it be easier to just turn off the autocast?


No, since you need to right click on the ability to do so. Just pressing hold position requires 0 mouse movement and can be done instantly when you see a marine charging at you.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 10 2011 23:40 GMT
#26
On October 11 2011 08:38 PatouPower wrote:
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On October 11 2011 08:09 LordOfDabu wrote:
On October 11 2011 07:59 samaNo4 wrote:

2. I don't really remember the game. It was a TvP, the Protoss player has charge, so the Terran player sends one unit to activate the charge just before the engagement, great move. The Protoss player rapidly presses hold position on his zealots to avoid the activation of charge, another great move.



Wouldn't it be easier to just turn off the autocast?


No, since you need to right click on the ability to do so. Just pressing hold position requires 0 mouse movement and can be done instantly when you see a marine charging at you.


Or you could press C right o.O (excuse me if im wrong)
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 23:41:52
October 10 2011 23:41 GMT
#27
Those things from OP u see even on a ladder.

Sage's pylon spam vs doom drop.

edit: awwww some1 got it right before me
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
October 10 2011 23:45 GMT
#28
On October 11 2011 08:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 08:09 slicknav wrote:
Nestea spine crawler pushing a FFE Protoss, I forget who the protoss was, but the move was brilliant.


Yea this, especially because other zergs were getting worked over by this shit back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czFeo4N5NvI

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[image loading]



I saw this live dude... it was sick!
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ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
October 10 2011 23:46 GMT
#29
some korean zerg (dont remember who), in ipl qualifiers, sends an overlord scout in the protoss's base while he has only a sentry to shoot it down. However, the overlord was half dead and he didn't see anything in the base yet (except the 2 sentries shooting him), so he morphs it to an overseer right there, in the middle of the protoss's base. That allows him to reset the hp on the overseer, so he now has a full life overseer in the protoss's base!!! He then proceeds to scout the whole base just like that, losing nothing, when an overlord scout would normally be dead without seeing anything. turns out there was a dark shrine in the back of the base. I was impressed
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DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 23:49:43
October 10 2011 23:48 GMT
#30
On October 11 2011 08:46 ForeverSleep wrote:
some korean zerg (dont remember who), in ipl qualifiers, sends an overlord scout in the protoss's base while he has only a sentry to shoot it down. However, the overlord was half dead and he didn't see anything in the base yet (except the 2 sentries shooting him), so he morphs it to an overseer right there, in the middle of the protoss's base. That allows him to reset the hp on the overseer, so he now has a full life overseer in the protoss's base!!! He then proceeds to scout the whole base just like that, losing nothing, when an overlord scout would normally be dead without seeing anything. turns out there was a dark shrine in the back of the base. I was impressed


yeah, that was sick, but usually zerg doesnt have lair at this point of the game and if they do they just morph overseer before scouting ^^
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
October 10 2011 23:50 GMT
#31
On October 11 2011 08:48 DrGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 08:46 ForeverSleep wrote:
some korean zerg (dont remember who), in ipl qualifiers, sends an overlord scout in the protoss's base while he has only a sentry to shoot it down. However, the overlord was half dead and he didn't see anything in the base yet (except the 2 sentries shooting him), so he morphs it to an overseer right there, in the middle of the protoss's base. That allows him to reset the hp on the overseer, so he now has a full life overseer in the protoss's base!!! He then proceeds to scout the whole base just like that, losing nothing, when an overlord scout would normally be dead without seeing anything. turns out there was a dark shrine in the back of the base. I was impressed


yeah, that was sick, but usually zerg doesnt have lair at this point of the game


true, but if it was me, i would never have thought of that if I had that lair and that I was trying to overlord scout like that ^^
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
October 10 2011 23:51 GMT
#32
This is kind of useless unless you require people to provide vod/replay examples. Otherwise its just a bunch of people writing about this one cool thing that happened that time over there.
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