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I can't believe this still is needed but religious and gun control side discussions will be met with harsh penalties from page 52 and onwards.
SpearWrit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States300 Posts
July 22 2011 18:33 GMT
#981
On July 23 2011 03:30 DoXa wrote:
if the goal was to kill the PM, or politicians in general, why would you slaughter teenagers instead if the PM isn't there? this doesn't look like a hired assasin or something, this is more the profile of a maniac


Maybe the terrorist attack was coordinated with a political group who sent the gunman during the confusion and panic that the bomb created. Could be two forces at work here working together?
"Special Tactics is...make surprise for your enemy, and also...eh, still work." -White-Ra
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
July 22 2011 18:33 GMT
#982
On July 23 2011 03:32 FallDownMarigold wrote:


Anyway, I'm not reading 20+ kills. So far there are 7 confirmed deaths.


7 confirmed deaths in Oslo.
20-50 unconfirmed deaths at Utøya.
Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
July 22 2011 18:33 GMT
#983
From the pictures we saw filmed, most of those 20-30 people where floating in the water, so it seems likely he shot them as they where trying to swim away.
"Choose life!"
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#984
On July 23 2011 03:32 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
can anyone explain why the terrorist group did this?
norway is like one of the most neutral countrys
really dont deserve this


There is plenty of reasons if you look at it.

Libya, Afghanistan & Iraq, then just a nationalists and all that stuff. But for now, it's pointless to speculate. But i agree with the statement about Norway.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
July 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#985
On July 23 2011 03:32 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
can anyone explain why the terrorist group did this?
norway is like one of the most neutral countrys
really dont deserve this


No one "deserves" these kinds of attacks. No matter what you think about politics or wars, it has absolutely nothing to do with the children and other innocent individuals who get killed in terrorism.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
July 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#986
On July 23 2011 03:29 BenBuford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 03:25 carloselcoco wrote:
Hope they torture the shit out of that guy to make him speak if he remains silent....


Because resorting to torture will make the victims come back...

Keep your vigilante justice elsewhere please.


It also does not actually help get information: http://www.military.com/news/article/exinterrogator-torture-doesnt--work.html
aka ilovesharkpeople
SectR
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway27 Posts
July 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#987
A little short story about norway and it's prisons: (Courtesy of Michael Moore)

"tahts halo dont worry", Chris <HuK> Loranger
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
July 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#988
On July 23 2011 03:32 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 03:24 sarge89 wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote:
Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities


With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well.


According to witnesses, the gunman executed many of the victims and got people to come towards him..


Besides, it doesn't take much training to kill 20 people using an assault rifle with optics. 20 shots on a crowd of people really isn't hard. It doesn't take a "well trained" Special Operations operator or something. Look at the VA Tech shooting. That guy killed around 30 people with handguns - no assault rifle. All it takes is plenty of ammunition and about a week at a shooting range to learn how to efficiently shoot targets from 50-100m out.

Anyway, I'm not reading 20+ kills. So far there are 7 confirmed deaths.

Killing another human being and shooting at a practice range aren't the same thing at fucking all. I can cut a piece of meat but I sure as hell can't slit a throat.
Every army has special training to make soldiers be able to shoot at targets without hesitating, as they found out a fucking majority couldn't shoot at the nazis in WWII.

It doesn't take a week at the shooting range to murder 30 people, who the fuck do you think you're kidding?
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
July 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#989
On July 23 2011 03:32 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 03:24 sarge89 wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote:
Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities


With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well.


According to witnesses, the gunman executed many of the victims and got people to come towards him..


Besides, it doesn't take much training to kill 20 people using an assault rifle with optics. 20 shots on a crowd of people really isn't hard. It doesn't take a "well trained" Special Operations operator or something. Look at the VA Tech shooting. That guy killed around 30 people with handguns - no assault rifle. All it takes is plenty of ammunition and about a week at a shooting range to learn how to efficiently shoot targets from 50-100m out.

Anyway, I'm not reading 20+ kills. So far there are 7 confirmed deaths.



7 confirmed from the bomb, 5 from the shooting. Witnesses report there are way more death b/c of the shooting. They claim they see a lot of dead bodies.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
July 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#990
How far away is this island from any other area? Are there not helicopters filled with armed guards on their way? Why is this still going on?
rod-
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway379 Posts
July 22 2011 18:35 GMT
#991
http://www.nettavisen.no/imagecache/parameter/?upsizable=true&action=resize&width=980&height=-1&url=http://www.nettavisen.no/multimedia/na/archive/00834/Ut_ya_Ut_ya__83423116x9.jpg

NSFW, picture from utøya
IMmvp~~
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
July 22 2011 18:36 GMT
#992
On July 23 2011 03:35 rod- wrote:
http://www.nettavisen.no/imagecache/parameter/?upsizable=true&action=resize&width=980&height=-1&url=http://www.nettavisen.no/multimedia/na/archive/00834/Ut_ya_Ut_ya__83423116x9.jpg

NSFW, picture from utøya


Well a bunch of pixels isn't probably NSFW.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
July 22 2011 18:36 GMT
#993
On July 23 2011 03:34 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 03:32 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:24 sarge89 wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote:
Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities


With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well.


According to witnesses, the gunman executed many of the victims and got people to come towards him..


Besides, it doesn't take much training to kill 20 people using an assault rifle with optics. 20 shots on a crowd of people really isn't hard. It doesn't take a "well trained" Special Operations operator or something. Look at the VA Tech shooting. That guy killed around 30 people with handguns - no assault rifle. All it takes is plenty of ammunition and about a week at a shooting range to learn how to efficiently shoot targets from 50-100m out.

Anyway, I'm not reading 20+ kills. So far there are 7 confirmed deaths.

Killing another human being and shooting at a practice range aren't the same thing at fucking all. I can cut a piece of meat but I sure as hell can't slit a throat.
Every army has special training to make soldiers be able to shoot at targets without hesitating, as they found out a fucking majority couldn't shoot at the nazis in WWII.

It doesn't take a week at the shooting range to murder 30 people, who the fuck do you think you're kidding?


Actually, it is pretty much the same for psychopath
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 22 2011 18:36 GMT
#994
On July 23 2011 03:34 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 03:32 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:24 sarge89 wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote:
Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities


With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well.


According to witnesses, the gunman executed many of the victims and got people to come towards him..


Besides, it doesn't take much training to kill 20 people using an assault rifle with optics. 20 shots on a crowd of people really isn't hard. It doesn't take a "well trained" Special Operations operator or something. Look at the VA Tech shooting. That guy killed around 30 people with handguns - no assault rifle. All it takes is plenty of ammunition and about a week at a shooting range to learn how to efficiently shoot targets from 50-100m out.

Anyway, I'm not reading 20+ kills. So far there are 7 confirmed deaths.

Killing another human being and shooting at a practice range aren't the same thing at fucking all. I can cut a piece of meat but I sure as hell can't slit a throat.
Every army has special training to make soldiers be able to shoot at targets without hesitating, as they found out a fucking majority couldn't shoot at the nazis in WWII.

It doesn't take a week at the shooting range to murder 30 people, who the fuck do you think you're kidding?


umm, clearly whoever did it doesn't have normal mental balance
why are you arguing about stupid shit
RoyAlex
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway420 Posts
July 22 2011 18:36 GMT
#995
On July 23 2011 03:35 rod- wrote:
http://www.nettavisen.no/imagecache/parameter/?upsizable=true&action=resize&width=980&height=-1&url=http://www.nettavisen.no/multimedia/na/archive/00834/Ut_ya_Ut_ya__83423116x9.jpg

NSFW, picture from utøya


wow......... insane, its like a horror movie or something... guy walk around on an island shooting kids.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
July 22 2011 18:36 GMT
#996
so people know

CONFIRMED DEATHS:

7 OSLO CITY (BOMBING)
7 UTØYA (SHOOTING)

UNCONFIRMED

20+ MORE UTØYA (SHOOTING)
Dead girls don't say no.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
July 22 2011 18:37 GMT
#997
On July 23 2011 03:34 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 03:32 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:24 sarge89 wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote:
Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities


With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well.


According to witnesses, the gunman executed many of the victims and got people to come towards him..


Besides, it doesn't take much training to kill 20 people using an assault rifle with optics. 20 shots on a crowd of people really isn't hard. It doesn't take a "well trained" Special Operations operator or something. Look at the VA Tech shooting. That guy killed around 30 people with handguns - no assault rifle. All it takes is plenty of ammunition and about a week at a shooting range to learn how to efficiently shoot targets from 50-100m out.

Anyway, I'm not reading 20+ kills. So far there are 7 confirmed deaths.

Killing another human being and shooting at a practice range aren't the same thing at fucking all. I can cut a piece of meat but I sure as hell can't slit a throat.
Every army has special training to make soldiers be able to shoot at targets without hesitating, as they found out a fucking majority couldn't shoot at the nazis in WWII.

It doesn't take a week at the shooting range to murder 30 people, who the fuck do you think you're kidding?



Hmm? Well sure, it takes a lunatic. But I wasn't addressing that. Didn't you read the quote to which I was responding? It read: "It must have been a highly trained..." or something of that nature. I simply replied that the act of hitting that many targets does NOT require "highly trained professionals".

It requires a fanatic/lunatic with about a week's worth of weapons practice at a gun range.

End of. Facts are facts.
Detwiler
Profile Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
July 22 2011 18:37 GMT
#998
On July 23 2011 03:32 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 03:24 sarge89 wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote:
Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities


With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well.


According to witnesses, the gunman executed many of the victims and got people to come towards him..


Besides, it doesn't take much training to kill 20 people using an assault rifle with optics. 20 shots on a crowd of people really isn't hard. It doesn't take a "well trained" Special Operations operator or something. Look at the VA Tech shooting. That guy killed around 30 people with handguns - no assault rifle. All it takes is plenty of ammunition and about a week at a shooting range to learn how to efficiently shoot targets from 50-100m out.

Anyway, I'm not reading 20+ kills. So far there are 7 confirmed deaths.


an assault rifle with optics isnt as easy to use as u think. VA tech shooter hand them in small classroom not out in the open totally different situation. not sayin hes spec ops though dude dont get me wrong. Im just sayin its not sum guy tht picked up a gun one day and decided to shoot some people.
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
July 22 2011 18:37 GMT
#999
On July 23 2011 03:34 Mohdoo wrote:
How far away is this island from any other area? Are there not helicopters filled with armed guards on their way? Why is this still going on?


The gunman has been captured quite some time ago. They're still trying to account for the 700 that were at Utøya at the time.
SayaSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway111 Posts
July 22 2011 18:37 GMT
#1000
My condolences go to the victims and their close ones.
Gotten tons of phone calls today.. This happend far away from me.
My friend is in Oslo. But he's okay. His brother was very close though.

And what's happending in utøya is connected to this.
Sad to see this.
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