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I can't believe this still is needed but religious and gun control side discussions will be met with harsh penalties from page 52 and onwards. |
On July 23 2011 03:26 SpiffD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:25 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 03:23 Blix wrote:On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote: Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well. It was mentioned before, he was dressed as a policeman, calling the kids to him - sickening but effective :-( Hope they torture the shit out of that guy to make him speak if he remains silent.... We don't torture people in Scandinavia. We have standards. Sorry to disappoint you...
21 years is the maximum sentence in norway, and our prisons ain't exactly harsh either...
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A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (the Helpers of the Global Jihad), issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at CNA, a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces' presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad. "We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations," the group said, apparently referred to a bombing in Sweden in December 2010, according to Mr McCants' translation. "What you see is only the beginning, and there is more to come." The claim could not be confirmed.
Is this group simply claiming something they aren't responsible for? It's certainly a possibility.
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On July 23 2011 03:23 Qzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:21 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 03:16 Qzy wrote:On July 23 2011 03:13 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 03:12 Qzy wrote:On July 23 2011 02:57 Qzy wrote:On July 23 2011 02:55 Nizaris wrote:On July 23 2011 02:51 CoR wrote: i dont like terror in europe, we must attack the terror waaaay harder make bigger attacks against every kind of terror danger How do you attack terror? Our current methods only seem to increase it not reduce it. Ban religion. Job done. User was warned for this post And why was I warned for that? Lots of mentions about it in politics atm. Which terror attack hasn't been connected to religion? Colombia's terrorism has never been due to religion. Stop trolling and discus Oslo... Yeah, saying my opinion is trolling when it's not equal to yours? Gah. Hopefully you will learn.  For? The idea behind banning Religion is far from radical or provoking. The idea behind banning anything is also far from radical or provoking. But is a reason why we have a freaking ban for some games selling in f.e. Australia. I still want you ask, if enviromentalism should be banned becouse of some freaking idiots like Teddy Bear Kaczynsky?
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On July 23 2011 03:27 arChieSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:19 sl0v wrote:On July 23 2011 03:15 arChieSC2 wrote:On July 23 2011 03:10 sl0v wrote: Police radio @ "Utøya": Bombs found, explosive experts from the military being flown out. Hm seems like something is strange here, if u are willing to bomb Utøya why would you join there with a semi automatic gun and try to kill everyone there? i mean thats why u plant bombs to do the job for you, then why would you go there to do the job with a gun? nosense for me... so kinda weird u_U The norwegian prime minister was supposed to do a speech there tomorrow ..so I'm guessing something must've gone awry. Just my 5 cent conspiration theory, but the police has stated that they've seen a clear connection between the bombings and the shootings @ utøya. well if u wanna make it real just attemp killing the president but then fail due to some1 going to kill everyone 1 day before, i seriusly see something strange on that lol ^^
Well, the bomb killed people in a government building, where our PM has his office. He just wasn't there today.
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Picture of the Utøya place. NOT CONFIRMED, but want to share this.
+ Show Spoiler +http://yfrog.com/kj1nzimj
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The BBC is reporting only 8 deaths from the bombing, but nothing about the shootings yet. I really hope that the Utoya deaths are not as numerous as stated here. My heart and prayers out to you folks, as they are all I have. If I was over there, you'd have my arms and legs to help.
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On July 23 2011 03:25 carloselcoco wrote: Hope they torture the shit out of that guy to make him speak if he remains silent....
Because resorting to torture will make the victims come back...
Keep your vigilante justice elsewhere please.
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On July 23 2011 03:28 partisan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:26 Bigpet wrote:On July 23 2011 03:18 carloselcoco wrote: brokentv Mark X Sky News right now suggesting the Oslo attacks might be from a far-right group. Plus, reports that the arrested gunman is blonde i.e. Aryan.
taken from a recent tweet 0.o Seriously man, why don't you use the word Caucasian which would be more general (and accurate) and less loaded? Isn't that directly from the tweet?
Yeah, why the hell is that idiot flaming me? I am just providing updates from twitter for everyone to see and serve as cross-reference between what others have to say about this grim day... http://twitter.com/#!/search/oslo
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On July 23 2011 03:23 Blix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote: Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well. It was mentioned before, he was dressed as a policeman, calling the kids to him - sickening but effective :-(
Even still i can promise you having been combat arms in the military for 7 years that if these reports are true that dude killed 20+ people its not a random crazy guy. Theres a 4 inch O ring in your chest i shoot you there ur dead that in the head is the only garenteed killed everything else is a wound. With a wound you either bleed out in minutes or you last a long time. A random person with an idea and a gun cant manage that kind of acuaracy.
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Unconfirmed numbers says anywhere between 20-50 killed at Utøya.
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On July 23 2011 03:28 Neeh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:26 SpiffD wrote:On July 23 2011 03:25 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 03:23 Blix wrote:On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote: Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well. It was mentioned before, he was dressed as a policeman, calling the kids to him - sickening but effective :-( Hope they torture the shit out of that guy to make him speak if he remains silent.... We don't torture people in Scandinavia. We have standards. Sorry to disappoint you... 21 years is the maximum sentence in norway, and our prisons ain't exactly harsh either...
And in reality, maximum penalty is around 12 years. Unless you are deemed unstable or a continued threat, even penalties for killing are usually 12.
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Internet is floating with pics of the dead bodies The gunman really did a lot of damage. Just horrible.
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if the goal was to kill the PM, or politicians in general, why would you slaughter teenagers instead if the PM isn't there? this doesn't look like a hired assasin or something, this is more the profile of a maniac
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On July 23 2011 03:12 Qzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 02:57 Qzy wrote:On July 23 2011 02:55 Nizaris wrote:On July 23 2011 02:51 CoR wrote: i dont like terror in europe, we must attack the terror waaaay harder make bigger attacks against every kind of terror danger How do you attack terror? Our current methods only seem to increase it not reduce it. Ban religion. Job done. User was warned for this post And why was I warned for that? Lots of mentions about it in politics atm. Which terror attack hasn't been connected to religion?
How would that work, what are the logistics of it? You cannot just arrest the majority of earths population and throw them in jail, and people wont stop believing/thinking something just because you tell them not to. What do you honestly thing would be the result of "Banning religion"? Is every Jihadist going to throw down their AK47 and suicide vest and put in a resume at Walmart? Are all those hardcore Christians in the US bible belt going to just toss their bibles in the fire and become an atheist that believes in evolution on the spot? I think not, see that kind of shit should have gone through your head before you posted that idiotic comment.
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On July 23 2011 03:28 Neeh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:26 SpiffD wrote:On July 23 2011 03:25 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 03:23 Blix wrote:On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote: Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well. It was mentioned before, he was dressed as a policeman, calling the kids to him - sickening but effective :-( Hope they torture the shit out of that guy to make him speak if he remains silent.... We don't torture people in Scandinavia. We have standards. Sorry to disappoint you... 21 years is the maximum sentence in norway, and our prisons ain't exactly harsh either...
not correct we have something called "21 år med forvarring"
which basically means he will never see the light of day.
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On July 23 2011 03:24 sarge89 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote: Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well. According to witnesses, the gunman executed many of the victims and got people to come towards him..
Besides, it doesn't take much training to kill 20 people using an assault rifle with optics. 20 shots on a crowd of people really isn't hard. It doesn't take a "well trained" Special Operations operator or something. Look at the VA Tech shooting. That guy killed around 30 people with handguns - no assault rifle. All it takes is plenty of ammunition and about a week at a shooting range to learn how to efficiently shoot targets from 50-100m out.
Anyway, I'm not reading 20+ kills. So far there are 7 confirmed deaths.
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can anyone explain why the terrorist group did this? norway is like one of the most neutral countrys really dont deserve this
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praying for the families of the victims, and hopefully nobody else gets hurt
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On July 23 2011 03:29 Detwiler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:23 Blix wrote:On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote: Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well. It was mentioned before, he was dressed as a policeman, calling the kids to him - sickening but effective :-( Even still i can promise you having been combat arms in the military for 7 years that if these reports are true that dude killed 20+ people its not a random crazy guy. Theres a 4 inch O ring in your chest i shoot you there ur dead that in the head is the only garenteed killed everything else is a wound. With a wound you either bleed out in minutes or you last a long time. A random person with an idea and a gun cant manage that kind of acuaracy.
Imagine pigs in a pen. 700 kids on a small island, fucking hell cant even finish the sentence... :'(
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On July 23 2011 03:32 Sqq wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:28 Neeh wrote:On July 23 2011 03:26 SpiffD wrote:On July 23 2011 03:25 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 03:23 Blix wrote:On July 23 2011 03:22 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 03:17 Typhus wrote: Eyewitness reports 20+ fatalities at the youth camp shooting. not confirmed by aothorities With one guy? with a rifle and a hand gun? That would be impressive. Knee jerk reaction is this isnt true but its also not impossible. But if it is true its not just a crazy with a gun. Contary to popular belief its not a simple thing as point shoot and kill. If a person get kill shots on 20 moving targets hes been trained and trained well. It was mentioned before, he was dressed as a policeman, calling the kids to him - sickening but effective :-( Hope they torture the shit out of that guy to make him speak if he remains silent.... We don't torture people in Scandinavia. We have standards. Sorry to disappoint you... 21 years is the maximum sentence in norway, and our prisons ain't exactly harsh either... not correct we have something called "21 år med forvarring" which basically means he will never see the light of day.
Still, that's mild for an action like this...
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