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On January 31 2005 22:37 baal wrote:
Then they are not limitations duh!, limitations, from limit, a thing you cannot surpass, impossible, something not possible.
You cant surpass a limit, you cant do the impossible -_- jeez.
Well actually you're still wrong baal -_-;
lim·it Audio pronunciation of "limit" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lmt)
n.
1. The point, edge, or line beyond which something cannot or may not proceed.
2. limits The boundary surrounding a specific area; bounds: within the city limits.
3. A confining or restricting object, agent, or influence.
4. The greatest or least amount, number, or extent allowed or possible: a withdrawal limit of $200; no minimum age limit.
5. Games. The largest amount which may be bet at one time in games of chance.
6. Abbr. lim Mathematics. A number or point L that is approached by a function f(x) as x approaches a if, for every positive number, there exists a number such that f(x)-L < if 0 < x-a <. Also called limit point, point of accumulation.
7. Informal. One that approaches or exceeds certain limits, as of credibility, forbearance, or acceptability: He is the limit of irresponsibility.
Basically all Limit means is that it is a line that is drawn so to speak, for example you can bench press 100lbs, that is your limit, BUT keep practicing and your limit will increase.
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Heh, is that really a fair matchup? Take a professional sprinter, hack one of his legs off, and have him race a cripple.
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On February 01 2005 04:35 RaiZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2005 14:43 baal wrote:
I have nothing against him playing, i think its kind of dumb if he can do other things like probably playing music or plenty of other things, but if he likes it, its kinda ok if he does, what i dont agree with, is that people suck his cock for being blind and playing wtf!
You are deaf and you play BW, i think you wouldnt like people giving you props and cheering you, only because you are a handicapped, atleast i would like to be appreciated for something i really do well not for phoney simpathy to wash away their guilt in their subconcient, i find it disgusting and probably you have felt that phoney simpathy.
Probably you understand what im saying, if i were a handicapped i would like to be appreciated for what i am, not because im a fucking cripple everyone has to pity me and suck my dick for things i dont deserve.
And louden you are a moron, why asking for a Ban im simply posting my opinion, its not as politically correct as yours... so bohooo ban anyone who disagrees with your phoney beliefs? At least the blind korean asked nothing. He didn't asked to have his dick sucked. You're not handicapped so u can't know its true meaning (pity). There's some right points but it's not a reason to flame him since he managed to play pretty well with his blind eyes.
Yeah, I gotta agree with you. I hate it when people treat someone else so differently and phoneyly(thats not a word right? :-p) because they are some how "inferior" to them. They feel like need to symphathize them. Like when they talk slowly and try to pretend to be best buds with the guy. But its not the fault of the guy who is getting treated differently.
If anything, I'm sure he just wants to be treated like any other normal person. Its the fault of society in general for this crap, its ridiculous.
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On February 01 2005 13:04 RaiZ wrote:
The vod was special, i think it was before a televised match or something, and the demand was huge. Therefore it was a little difficult to have this vod. Also the game wasn't very enjoyable to watch, the camera mostly focused on his keyboard/face/screen to see how he could play.
The Keyboard/Face/Screen would be what I'd want to see.......seeing the game from boxers 1st person perspective would probably defeat the purpose
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None of you even understand where baal comes from on his posts, do you?
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Look, baal, I'm clearly considearbly newer to this site that you are, so I'm going to do the sensible thing and not contradict you directly. I do, however, belive that your use of, err, shall I say, rather vivid imagery when referring to the player in question here, is uncalled for, to say the least. Maybe he doesn't know his limits, in your opinion, and maybe he never will surpass his limitations as you say, but in no way does that make him someone who gets this attention by being a pity-party and relying on the world around him to see him as something he's not. On the contrary, it must of taken the whole of his being just to put himself out there and try. He deserves every credit we can give him for having the integrity to get out there and not be afraid of criticism like yours. I'm not saying he should be heralded as a "Starcraft Prodigy", but we at least owe him the favor of not having to take the shit you are currently dishing out. Give the kid a fucking break, please.
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On February 01 2005 18:25 Element)LoGiC wrote:
None of you even understand where baal comes from on his posts, do you?
what do you mean o_o
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On January 30 2005 16:22 baal wrote:
i hate people admiring the blind gamer, its just an idiot who cant accept their own limits and instead of doing things he can he insists on things he cant...
i can take him 20-0 so whats the point -_-; dumbass blind.
ive nvr liked this kid.
im sorry u get cum jizzed on ur face all the time but hey... sad to say it is inevitable, as maybe ur limit that ur reflexes arent 'sperm' enuff to dudge em, hey ?
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On February 01 2005 14:48 FoxBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2005 22:37 baal wrote:
Then they are not limitations duh!, limitations, from limit, a thing you cannot surpass, impossible, something not possible.
You cant surpass a limit, you cant do the impossible -_- jeez. Well actually you're still wrong baal -_-; lim·it Audio pronunciation of "limit" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lmt) n. 1. The point, edge, or line beyond which something cannot or may not proceed. 2. limits The boundary surrounding a specific area; bounds: within the city limits. 3. A confining or restricting object, agent, or influence. 4. The greatest or least amount, number, or extent allowed or possible: a withdrawal limit of $200; no minimum age limit. 5. Games. The largest amount which may be bet at one time in games of chance. 6. Abbr. lim Mathematics. A number or point L that is approached by a function f(x) as x approaches a if, for every positive number, there exists a number such that f(x)-L < if 0 < x-a <. Also called limit point, point of accumulation. 7. Informal. One that approaches or exceeds certain limits, as of credibility, forbearance, or acceptability: He is the limit of irresponsibility. Basically all Limit means is that it is a line that is drawn so to speak, for example you can bench press 100lbs, that is your limit, BUT keep practicing and your limit will increase.
100lbs wasnt a total limit, it was a limit with his current muscular mass, he will never ever be able to lift an X amount of weight doesnt matter how much he trains, same as this kid will never see or be as skillfull in things that require sight as a normal people, he has to learn that he is blind, anyway that is not the point >.<
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On February 01 2005 19:26 baal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2005 18:25 Element)LoGiC wrote:
None of you even understand where baal comes from on his posts, do you? what do you mean o_o
I'm saying that due to various circumstances, you've become an extremely realistic person. I read your posts, and I read peoples responses to them, and the thing that they never understand is that in reality, as harsh as it is, you're usually right.
Trying your hardest to do things that normal people can do while being limited in ways they are not will not help you, it will bring you temporary happiness because of the people that will be impressed, but in the end, you are left with nothing.
However, it is his choice, and you know what, playing bw blinded, as futile as it seems realistically, is a respectable thing to accomplish, you may not be good, you may not win, but can you imagine what goes through his head when he plays sc? Do you imagine how proud of himself he is when he has learned to accomodate to bw in ways some people can't even imagine?
Can you imagine the amount of happiness this young man has accumulated? Perhaps this happiness, being that it is based on the responses he generates from awed audiences, seems empty and shallow, but can you honestly say that your happiness is any less so?
However, realistically, this man has achieved no more, and probably much less, than people who play the exact same game, and even though he has dedicated himself to playing it even with his limitations, it's time he moved on from this dream, and learned to use what he has, and not what he has not.
Regardless, I truly believe that baal does not deserve to be flamed for responding in the manner he did, nor does anyone else for the same, a persons view point need be understood, not condemned.
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OMFG WTF O_________O, you got it, i knew you had vision, but judging for some posts i saw time ago from you i thought it was a very narrow one, good to know there are actually people with intelect.
i have to admit i was mistaken in taking it directly into the kid what it really bothers me is the wrong simpathy ppl feel for cripples, thats the way society pushes them to act.
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Then say what you mean next time baal, not just spout the first piece of inflamatory bullshit that pops into your head. Logic, what part of baal's assertion that this boy is a dumbass, an idiot with unrealistic goals, do you find "right"? I also find it particularly ridiculous that you would presume to know what would make this boy happy, or why he's set such a goal for himself. Is it because you find starcraft to be a trivial hobby? Would you say the same thing to an American boy in a wheelchair who wants to play basketball with his friends? I don't even know what you think, as your post is a huge contradiction.
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What most of you don't realize is that he didn't play starcraft to impress people, nor did he do it to become great. His friend's at school were playing it and talking about it and he wanted to experience it himself, he wanted to play this wonderful game his friends were talking about. So he learned how.
It has nothing to do with fucking limitations or some stupid shit like that. He wanted to take part in something with his friends, no matter how hard he had to try.
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On February 01 2005 22:13 BroOd wrote:
Then say what you mean next time baal, not just spout the first piece of inflamatory bullshit that pops into your head. Logic, what part of baal's assertion that this boy is a dumbass, an idiot with unrealistic goals, do you find "right"? I also find it particularly ridiculous that you would presume to know what would make this boy happy, or why he's set such a goal for himself. Is it because you find starcraft to be a trivial hobby? Would you say the same thing to an American boy in a wheelchair who wants to play basketball with his friends? I don't even know what you think, as your post is a huge contradiction.
Well, I don't agree completely with the way he said it, but I do see what means by it. ("it" being his harsh words)
I never said I agreed with him. I said he was "right" in terms of being beneficial to you realistically, which (I may be wrong) I don't think being able to play starcraft while being blind would be.
I didn't assume I knew what made him happy, but I thought I would use it in the context given to me(by baal) where he generally states that he thinks this boy is made happy by the people that are impressed with him, which may either be one, or none of a lot of things that do so.
Keep in mind that my post is only a contradiction if I said I agreed with baal, or the things I was pointing out that are merely the results of looking at this situation in as close as eyes as I can get to baal's.
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On February 01 2005 22:38 Element)LoGiC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2005 22:13 BroOd wrote:
Then say what you mean next time baal, not just spout the first piece of inflamatory bullshit that pops into your head. Logic, what part of baal's assertion that this boy is a dumbass, an idiot with unrealistic goals, do you find "right"? I also find it particularly ridiculous that you would presume to know what would make this boy happy, or why he's set such a goal for himself. Is it because you find starcraft to be a trivial hobby? Would you say the same thing to an American boy in a wheelchair who wants to play basketball with his friends? I don't even know what you think, as your post is a huge contradiction. Well, I don't agree completely with the way he said it, but I do see what means by it. ("it" being his harsh words) I never said I agreed with him. I said he was "right" in terms of being beneficial to you realistically, which (I may be wrong) I don't think being able to play starcraft while being blind would be. I didn't assume I knew what made him happy, but I thought I would use it in the context given to me(by baal) where he generally states that he thinks this boy is made happy by the people that are impressed with him, which may either be one, or none of a lot of things that do so. Keep in mind that my post is only a contradiction if I said I agreed with baal, or the things I was pointing out that are merely the results of looking at this situation in as close as eyes as I can get to baal's.
First of all, I was unnesessarily curt with that post, and I'm sorry. I had a long day at work. The real problem I had was just covered by FrEaK, in the sense that I think part of this boy's happiness would be derived from the fact that he was able to do something that made him feel just a small bit normal, a small bit like his friends, not to impress them by overcoming God's twisted designs. I don't think there's anything even in the slightest wrong with this, and was pretty annoyed that someone would have the gall to call him a dumbass for wanting this. There are tons of viewpoints a person can have, but "ignorance" isn't one of them, and I consider what baal said to be ignorant.
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Wait. I had always thought baal was a girl. Halp meh?
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I see what you mean, that despite his limitations, if he tries hard enough, he can feel as though he's normal like his friends, which I find to be a very beautiful thing to say.
I can only imagine what kind of dedication it would take to become, hmm, how can I say this...
passable as a player, able to control, etc, without having sight in such a sight-oriented game. I can only imagine what motivated him to do this, be it wanting to be accepted by his friends on yet another level, or something outside my comprehension altogether. Regardless, I think this person is a very respectable and dignified human being, with more integrity perhaps than I'll ever hope to imagine having.
Despite what I've just said, however(which may seem like another contradiction), can you see the relevance of baal's post? What happens when he is no longer made happy by being able to do this? What happens when he must move on...? What happens if baal was right and he was made happy by the audiences response?
I think that we are expressing our compassion, only in different ways(including hard-talking baal).
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Its like if the girl with no face (old tl.net post) enters to a beauty contest!, i mean wtf, she can do a lot of things, but a beauty contest its out of question, and what really annoys me its that there wil be 2938742938472394 morons cheering her up for trying...
Why cheering someone who isnt even aware of their own limits, i think its the same, if the girl finds joy in doing that well goo for her as long as she is totally aware its futile and dumb, but that isnt reason for people to give props to her.
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You all flamed baal only because the kid was blind....admit it....
If the kid had no handicap...well...i don't think you were so eager to defend him
As soon as he called him dumbass blind you all jumped at him not really trying to undearstend what he is saying, just because he picked on a blind guy...admit it
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ofcourse they did, the hypocrecy in astonishing
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