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On February 18 2012 11:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Your last line confuses me. I thought I made it clear in this post (if not in others as well), I go to a university that is infamous throughout the whole state for being anti-social and for the general student body for being anti-social. I'm not sure how you say it's a party school or party-oriented when I said the opposite :s. Just a bit confused.
I failed reading comprehension. That's what I get for multitasking TL with too many other things at once. XD Consider my last line withdrawn.
On February 18 2012 11:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Back in Jan still during my break, I got a few girls hoping for some kinda new relationship, but they were idiot airheads like most are. I don't know how I got them, seeing as I really, really suck at opening. It boils down to asking how they are, introducing myself, and then either 1) noticing something on their person that I can make something out of, or 2) far more often random ass stuff like what I like doing, what kind of food, music, things they like, what they do, etc. But it's like after salutations, I can get lost for a bit, especially if they don't seem particularly social. Don't get me wrong, I'm not super social by any means, but if I'm not running off 12-14 hours of sleep over 3 nights, I'm decent. Still, how does one assuredly and successfully open conversation with a total stranger, girl or guy (especially girl)?
There's no guaranteed opener with total strangers. The very nature of a cold approach means that it has a high risk of failure.
Noticing things and introducing yourself is a reasonable start, but I would also recommend throwing in some humor. If you open with a witty comment that makes someone laugh, it really relieves the stress of the situation (remember, most people find cold approaches stressful so you want to help them relax). This will help with you getting lost, because it generally elicits more open verbal responses which you can play off of. If you need help developing humor skills, improv comedy classes are a great way to start.
One follow-up for introductions I get a lot of mileage with is "So what's your story?" It's a very open-ended way to get into some good fluff talk, and it's appropriate whether you're looking to make friends with someone or possibly slip in some flirting.
On February 18 2012 11:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Another question, given I'm not as convenient to those people as their friends are to them, they don't always care to invite me to stuff, no matter how high and great some of them think of me, even in comparison to their more convenient friends. So, what do I do? Ask them what they're doing on weekends (on which I have time)? Problem is when I try that, I usually get a "nothing" (since most people literally plan things on the spur of the moment) or they give me a nice way of saying "yeah but not with you included."
The best way to get people to invite you to stuff is to invite them to stuff yourself. Throw parties, arrange hang-outs, invite people to come bar hopping or clubbing with you. Figure out who the party alphas (male and female) are and go out of your way to befriend them. It will take some time to build up a social network at first if you're starting from scratch, but eventually it will pay off.
Alternatively, the easy mode way to do it is to join an organization of some sort. Picking up a club sport, rushing a fraternity, or joining a club are simple ways to automatically pick up a network, if you're not ready to build one on your own.
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What's the pick-up world's view on wingmanning? I'm usually much more successful when I go out and I'm with a friend, and we're actively helping each other get a hookup.
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So I went out last week to the nightclub (again). I just love going clubbing. I'm telling you guys, if you even have a shred of personality, being a good dancer is such an easy way to get girls. What happened to me the other night was that there was actually a circle forming around with all the good dancers, and everyone was watching us do our awesome stuff. There was this little black dude, short, average build, that did some amazing moves. He even made me look bad (pretty hard to do!) The only way to do some of those moves is like months of yoga....life lesson learn yoga. Also liked when he danced circles around this one guy and he left in shame, lol. And I'll never forget what he did afterward.
He walked up to the hottest girl in the club with his arms folded and stared her down for like 15 seconds. At first she was like huh what's he want, but, he didn't stop eye contact, he didn't say anything, just stared her down the whole time.... the body language said everything. "Do you really think you are cool enough to dance with me?" And then it was pretty much over, she was his.
I'll be forever stealing that little black dudes techniques. Hehe. You can't buy confidence like that at the liquor store. Stole my thunder. Bastard.
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I literally pissed my pants laughing as Scassanovas or whatevers 13.
grow up kid.
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On February 18 2012 12:59 allecto wrote:
What's the pick-up world's view on wingmanning? I'm usually much more successful when I go out and I'm with a friend, and we're actively helping each other get a hookup.
Yea, think of it from the girls perspective if some random guy walks up to you thats pretty creepy, if you have a friend suddenly you look outgoing and your not leaving the girls friend out to just stand dry (im assuming the girl has a friend, how many girls don't go somewhere with somebody)
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On February 18 2012 12:59 allecto wrote:What's the pick-up world's view on wingmanning? I'm usually much more successful when I go out and I'm with a friend, and we're actively helping each other get a hookup.
Of course, wings are good. It's often helps to have a wing to occupy some of a target's friends, offer social proof, and to share opinions with, and for novices it's useful to have someone to pressure you to keep approaching and put out your best game.
A wingman isn't crucial, particularly to an experienced guy who can effectively disarm groups alone, but you'll often get better results with a wing than without, unless the wing is inept.
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I made this for fun. Enjoy.
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On February 18 2012 11:47 squattincassanova wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 11:36 TMOUllrich wrote:
Just seen this thread, had a skim and a look at that last video ...
... this is absolutely disgusting TBH, what a bunch of complete disrespectful bunch of barbarians ...
Its the guys that don't learn how to get good with women that the creepy, needy, annoying, desperate, abusive ones. They are all around you. They will be like that the rest of their lives. All the creepy dudes at the club that follow chicks around... ARE NOT the ones learning pick up.
So you're basically saying that anyone that doesn't do PUA is a loser? I don't mind you going on about how you think PUA is awesome, but don't try to make yourself look better and think you're something due to practicing pickup.
Not everyone becomes good with women. Some do, and they won't necessarily need to practice to become that. Or at least not in the ways of "The Game".
And even the one's that don't, why would they have to be creepy, needing, annoying, desperate, or ABUSIVE? My own opinion is that if anything, using a psychological advantage to get what you want is much more abusive.
Anyone should be able to do wonders with just whom they are, not having to pretend or practice being something else.
Note: I'm not bashing you for doing PUA, as much as I dislike it myself, but for your attitude. Whatever anyone is doing is of their own concern, not mine.
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aren't u a little old for this? your almost 30. you sound like you are very immature.
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On February 18 2012 03:58 squattincassanova wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 23:00 bloopie wrote:
Squattin,
I know how the basics of the night game, and I have gone pretty far with it. I also know that you shouldnt shit where you eat - i.e. perform pickup on girls you meet often (in the day), in social circles, etc. But whats your MO on girls you see SOMETIMES in the day/night on a semi regular basis (once,twice a week, or maybe less)? How do you generate chances to meet with the chick/what sort of frame of mind/what to say? So don't learn pickup in your social circle if you aren't good at it yet. I know some guys who have crazy social circle game. They hate cold approach but once you introduce them a girl through a friend, its game over the same night. My friend in SD who is a rich mother fucker who used to wing with Fuji, did this where he had a party. He hit it off with the girl but her boyfriend as AT the house party. He lied and told the boyfriend they were all going downstairs to go out to a club, once e got the dude to go downstairs, he locked him outside and escalated on the girl and got the lay while the bf got locked outside. There are some crazy stories I have heard with social circle game.
Sorry but you must be pretty dumb to believe such fairytales.
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On February 18 2012 12:49 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 11:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Your last line confuses me. I thought I made it clear in this post (if not in others as well), I go to a university that is infamous throughout the whole state for being anti-social and for the general student body for being anti-social. I'm not sure how you say it's a party school or party-oriented when I said the opposite :s. Just a bit confused. I failed reading comprehension. That's what I get for multitasking TL with too many other things at once. XD Consider my last line withdrawn. Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 11:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Back in Jan still during my break, I got a few girls hoping for some kinda new relationship, but they were idiot airheads like most are. I don't know how I got them, seeing as I really, really suck at opening. It boils down to asking how they are, introducing myself, and then either 1) noticing something on their person that I can make something out of, or 2) far more often random ass stuff like what I like doing, what kind of food, music, things they like, what they do, etc. But it's like after salutations, I can get lost for a bit, especially if they don't seem particularly social. Don't get me wrong, I'm not super social by any means, but if I'm not running off 12-14 hours of sleep over 3 nights, I'm decent. Still, how does one assuredly and successfully open conversation with a total stranger, girl or guy (especially girl)? There's no guaranteed opener with total strangers. The very nature of a cold approach means that it has a high risk of failure. Noticing things and introducing yourself is a reasonable start, but I would also recommend throwing in some humor. If you open with a witty comment that makes someone laugh, it really relieves the stress of the situation (remember, most people find cold approaches stressful so you want to help them relax). This will help with you getting lost, because it generally elicits more open verbal responses which you can play off of. If you need help developing humor skills, improv comedy classes are a great way to start. One follow-up for introductions I get a lot of mileage with is "So what's your story?" It's a very open-ended way to get into some good fluff talk, and it's appropriate whether you're looking to make friends with someone or possibly slip in some flirting. Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 11:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Another question, given I'm not as convenient to those people as their friends are to them, they don't always care to invite me to stuff, no matter how high and great some of them think of me, even in comparison to their more convenient friends. So, what do I do? Ask them what they're doing on weekends (on which I have time)? Problem is when I try that, I usually get a "nothing" (since most people literally plan things on the spur of the moment) or they give me a nice way of saying "yeah but not with you included." The best way to get people to invite you to stuff is to invite them to stuff yourself. Throw parties, arrange hang-outs, invite people to come bar hopping or clubbing with you. Figure out who the party alphas (male and female) are and go out of your way to befriend them. It will take some time to build up a social network at first if you're starting from scratch, but eventually it will pay off. Alternatively, the easy mode way to do it is to join an organization of some sort. Picking up a club sport, rushing a fraternity, or joining a club are simple ways to automatically pick up a network, if you're not ready to build one on your own.
Always good advice from you guys. Thanks a lot. I'm alright with humor with people I know or am talking to, but opening with a funny line with strangers is something I need to work at, and particularly with being able to be humorous all the time lol. ;o
I'll try more with trying to set up outings and whatnot with people, but haha good luck to me trying to make that happen with my friends xd.
On February 18 2012 12:42 Elegy wrote:
UCSD isn't bad if you go Greek
edit: assuming thats where Hammurabi goes, it certainly fits
Had to lol at how spot-on you are. I guess our reputation really is that famous. I'm thinking of joining Theta Tau mainly because it comprises engineers, but if you have any great suggestions for frats as long as they don't have a reputation for being complete herpderps (I guess it's different from chapter to chapter, though some frats have a notorious rep across the board), I'm all ears. 
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On February 18 2012 11:47 squattincassanova wrote:
Its the guys that don't learn how to get good with women that the creepy, needy, annoying, desperate, abusive ones. They are all around you. They will be like that the rest of their lives. All the creepy dudes at the club that follow chicks around... ARE NOT the ones learning pick up.
Is everything you say second hand or what?
This talking point is a stupid false dichotomy anyway. You can be non-creepy around women without being a PUA and plenty of guys 'learn' that sort of stuff only to become a different kind of creepy jerk.
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On February 19 2012 04:00 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 12:49 sunprince wrote:On February 18 2012 11:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Your last line confuses me. I thought I made it clear in this post (if not in others as well), I go to a university that is infamous throughout the whole state for being anti-social and for the general student body for being anti-social. I'm not sure how you say it's a party school or party-oriented when I said the opposite :s. Just a bit confused. I failed reading comprehension. That's what I get for multitasking TL with too many other things at once. XD Consider my last line withdrawn. On February 18 2012 11:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Back in Jan still during my break, I got a few girls hoping for some kinda new relationship, but they were idiot airheads like most are. I don't know how I got them, seeing as I really, really suck at opening. It boils down to asking how they are, introducing myself, and then either 1) noticing something on their person that I can make something out of, or 2) far more often random ass stuff like what I like doing, what kind of food, music, things they like, what they do, etc. But it's like after salutations, I can get lost for a bit, especially if they don't seem particularly social. Don't get me wrong, I'm not super social by any means, but if I'm not running off 12-14 hours of sleep over 3 nights, I'm decent. Still, how does one assuredly and successfully open conversation with a total stranger, girl or guy (especially girl)? There's no guaranteed opener with total strangers. The very nature of a cold approach means that it has a high risk of failure. Noticing things and introducing yourself is a reasonable start, but I would also recommend throwing in some humor. If you open with a witty comment that makes someone laugh, it really relieves the stress of the situation (remember, most people find cold approaches stressful so you want to help them relax). This will help with you getting lost, because it generally elicits more open verbal responses which you can play off of. If you need help developing humor skills, improv comedy classes are a great way to start. One follow-up for introductions I get a lot of mileage with is "So what's your story?" It's a very open-ended way to get into some good fluff talk, and it's appropriate whether you're looking to make friends with someone or possibly slip in some flirting. On February 18 2012 11:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Another question, given I'm not as convenient to those people as their friends are to them, they don't always care to invite me to stuff, no matter how high and great some of them think of me, even in comparison to their more convenient friends. So, what do I do? Ask them what they're doing on weekends (on which I have time)? Problem is when I try that, I usually get a "nothing" (since most people literally plan things on the spur of the moment) or they give me a nice way of saying "yeah but not with you included." The best way to get people to invite you to stuff is to invite them to stuff yourself. Throw parties, arrange hang-outs, invite people to come bar hopping or clubbing with you. Figure out who the party alphas (male and female) are and go out of your way to befriend them. It will take some time to build up a social network at first if you're starting from scratch, but eventually it will pay off. Alternatively, the easy mode way to do it is to join an organization of some sort. Picking up a club sport, rushing a fraternity, or joining a club are simple ways to automatically pick up a network, if you're not ready to build one on your own. Always good advice from you guys. Thanks a lot. I'm alright with humor with people I know or am talking to, but opening with a funny line with strangers is something I need to work at, and particularly with being able to be humorous all the time lol. ;o I'll try more with trying to set up outings and whatnot with people, but haha good luck to me trying to make that happen with my friends xd. Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 12:42 Elegy wrote:
UCSD isn't bad if you go Greek
edit: assuming thats where Hammurabi goes, it certainly fits Had to lol at how spot-on you are. I guess our reputation really is that famous. I'm thinking of joining Theta Tau mainly because it comprises engineers, but if you have any great suggestions for frats as long as they don't have a reputation for being complete herpderps (I guess it's different from chapter to chapter, though some frats have a notorious rep across the board), I'm all ears.
I am the rush chair for an IFC fraternity at UCSD. depends what you're looking for in a fraternity...getting girls is your goal? real brotherhood? professional connections? a lot of the fraternities have bad reps, feel free to PM me if you want more detailed info, don't want to spill shit on an open forum haha
I will say that rushing IFC is better than multicultural or a frat like theta tau or phi delta ep 
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On February 18 2012 17:46 danielrosca wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 03:58 squattincassanova wrote:
So don't learn pickup in your social circle if you aren't good at it yet. I know some guys who have crazy social circle game. They hate cold approach but once you introduce them a girl through a friend, its game over the same night. My friend in SD who is a rich mother fucker who used to wing with Fuji, did this where he had a party. He hit it off with the girl but her boyfriend as AT the house party. He lied and told the boyfriend they were all going downstairs to go out to a club, once e got the dude to go downstairs, he locked him outside and escalated on the girl and got the lay while the bf got locked outside. There are some crazy stories I have heard with social circle game. Sorry but you must be pretty dumb to believe such fairytales.
Nah, he's not. Stuff like that happens fairly frequently. I am in nursing school with pretty much 95% women, and I take tell you that a lot of them are prone to cheating on their boyfriends. (I don't go after these girls FYI; I stay outta peoples' relationships) They get just as horny as guys do, and many just really want excitement. Many men in relationships also tend to become submissive and passive, whereas dominance is typically an attraction switch for females. You become comfortable and compliant. When a guy comes along that is exciting, fun, witty, and verbally disinterested, but non-verbally interested, it creates a really high amount of sexual tension and excitement. Sometimes that's enough to get a girl to stray if it's in a place where sex can reasonably happen.
That being said, I like PUA in general, but I think sometimes the motivations are wrong. If I wanted to I could be getting laid at least once a week - just requires the work and the social atmosphere. It's really not terribly difficult, and I'm a pretty average looking guy. This past Friday I had a house party at my place, and we went out after with about 20 of us. I knew the manager of the bar we went to as I'm friends with his girlfriend, so I texted him when we got there and he got us in for free, set us up with our own section of the bar, and then put 20 free drinks on my tab (ironic because he knows I don't drink). As you can imagine, I was very popular with my group that night. It's amazing what social value you can do. I blatantly had to refuse sex from 2 girls that night without even trying - one with a boyfriend who she was texting all night. I think you guys just underestimate the power of social networking and demonstrating higher value have in general.
With that said, I'm not the type who sleeps with random people. But concepts from PUA apply to relationships and life in general, even for a guy like me that's not going to just go hook up with some random at a bar. I wouldn't diss it too much.
The biggest problems I have with PUA are LMR (last minute resistance) and how some people abuse it. Overcoming LMR is nothing short of a mind fuck on the girl, and I really think that's in poor taste. If a girl says no, it means no. Feel free to try again later once or what not, but all that freeze out bullshit and mind games actually annoys me. Finally, one of the principle rules of PUA is to leave the girl better off than you found her, and this is rarely practiced by many of the people I talk to within the community. This makes me angry. Seems like at least 50%+ of the guys just want to get their dingles played with and forget about the fact that there are 2 people involved in sex. As someone who's social circles are roughly 3/4 women, I can't tell you how often I hear from them about the stupid shit they have to put up with from self-proclaimed "players" or worst case scenario, even girls who have been mind fucked into sleeping with some guy, and now they're emotionally damage for life.
Keep it real gents. I'm sure many of you get laid lots, but at the end of the night regardless of who you go home with, you have to live with yourself. Make sure you're not being a shitty person to do it. Also this alpha-male competition you got going on here has gotta stop. The whole point of game is to lift eachother up, not kick eachother down. Go out and have fun. Help eachother meet new social circles and expand your social game. Fun competition is good, but it doesn't seem like the motivation behind this is "fun".
[edit] Just thought I'd chirp in about that guy who said not being able to buy a girl a drink is a handicap. That's not true the majority of the time. Most girls see guys who buy them drinks as submissive and not worth their time. In-fact, you'll have more success if you walk up to a girl start a brief conversation opener, then transition into, "So, when are you going to buy me a drink?" with a straight face. Buying a girl anything the first time you meet her screams subconsciously that you're not good enough by yourself, so you need to buy her a drink. It's stupid, I know. You'd think it would say, "Hey, I'm a good guy and want to share a drink with you." But it says, "Have this drink. I can haz in ur pants now plox?". Ruins the atmosphere of excitement, unless you're a really hot guy and can substain the attraction anyways.
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On February 20 2012 07:18 Satire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 17:46 danielrosca wrote:On February 18 2012 03:58 squattincassanova wrote:
So don't learn pickup in your social circle if you aren't good at it yet. I know some guys who have crazy social circle game. They hate cold approach but once you introduce them a girl through a friend, its game over the same night. My friend in SD who is a rich mother fucker who used to wing with Fuji, did this where he had a party. He hit it off with the girl but her boyfriend as AT the house party. He lied and told the boyfriend they were all going downstairs to go out to a club, once e got the dude to go downstairs, he locked him outside and escalated on the girl and got the lay while the bf got locked outside. There are some crazy stories I have heard with social circle game. Sorry but you must be pretty dumb to believe such fairytales. Nah, he's not. Stuff like that happens fairly frequently. I am in nursing school with pretty much 95% women, and I take tell you that a lot of them are prone to cheating on their boyfriends. (I don't go after these girls FYI; I stay outta peoples' relationships) They get just as horny as guys do, and many just really want excitement. Many men in relationships also tend to become submissive and passive, whereas dominance is typically an attraction switch for females. You become comfortable and compliant. When a guy comes along that is exciting, fun, witty, and verbally disinterested, but non-verbally interested, it creates a really high amount of sexual tension and excitement. Sometimes that's enough to get a girl to stray if it's in a place where sex can reasonably happen. That being said, I like PUA in general, but I think sometimes the motivations are wrong. If I wanted to I could be getting laid at least once a week - just requires the work and the social atmosphere. It's really not terribly difficult, and I'm a pretty average looking guy. This past Friday I had a house party at my place, and we went out after with about 20 of us. I knew the manager of the bar we went to as I'm friends with his girlfriend, so I texted him when we got there and he got us in for free, set us up with our own section of the bar, and then put 20 free drinks on my tab (ironic because he knows I don't drink). As you can imagine, I was very popular with my group that night. It's amazing what social value you can do. I blatantly had to refuse sex from 2 girls that night without even trying - one with a boyfriend who she was texting all night. I think you guys just underestimate the power of social networking and demonstrating higher value have in general. With that said, I'm not the type who sleeps with random people. But concepts from PUA apply to relationships and life in general, even for a guy like me that's not going to just go hook up with some random at a bar. I wouldn't diss it too much. The biggest problems I have with PUA are LMR (last minute resistance) and how some people abuse it. Overcoming LMR is nothing short of a mind fuck on the girl, and I really think that's in poor taste. If a girl says no, it means no. Feel free to try again later once or what not, but all that freeze out bullshit and mind games actually annoys me. Finally, one of the principle rules of PUA is to leave the girl better off than you found her, and this is rarely practiced by many of the people I talk to within the community. This makes me angry. Seems like at least 50%+ of the guys just want to get their dingles played with and forget about the fact that there are 2 people involved in sex. As someone who's social circles are roughly 3/4 women, I can't tell you how often I hear from them about the stupid shit they have to put up with from self-proclaimed "players" or worst case scenario, even girls who have been mind fucked into sleeping with some guy, and now they're emotionally damage for life. Keep it real gents. I'm sure many of you get laid lots, but at the end of the night regardless of who you go home with, you have to live with yourself. Make sure you're not being a shitty person to do it. Also this alpha-male competition you got going on here has gotta stop. The whole point of game is to lift eachother up, not kick eachother down. Go out and have fun. Help eachother meet new social circles and expand your social game. Fun competition is good, but it doesn't seem like the motivation behind this is "fun". [edit] Just thought I'd chirp in about that guy who said not being able to buy a girl a drink is a handicap. That's not true the majority of the time. Most girls see guys who buy them drinks as submissive and not worth their time. In-fact, you'll have more success if you walk up to a girl start a brief conversation opener, then transition into, "So, when are you going to buy me a drink?" with a straight face. Buying a girl anything the first time you meet her screams subconsciously that you're not good enough by yourself, so you need to buy her a drink. It's stupid, I know. You'd think it would say, "Hey, I'm a good guy and want to share a drink with you." But it says, "Have this drink. I can haz in ur pants now plox?". Ruins the atmosphere of excitement, unless you're a really hot guy and can substain the attraction anyways.
I think he was more referring to the fact that the girl let her boyfriend get locked outside then cheated on him while he was banging on the door while she was getting banged in the house.
At least, that's what I thought he meant.
Edit: I think he knows that chicks will/can cheat. At least, I hope so. lol only naive people would believe otherwise.
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Don't forget, there was a lot of alcohol and weed involved. Its not like the girl was completely sober and conscious when she did it. There was music, distraction, drugs and she was obviously in state. They don't think ahead, they are all creatures of the moment. When a girl says "we're not going to have sex" it usually means "we're going to have sex". Obviously cuz shes already thinking about it.
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On February 20 2012 14:34 squattincassanova wrote:
Don't forget, there was a lot of alcohol and weed involved. Its not like the girl was completely sober and conscious when she did it. There was music, distraction, drugs and she was obviously in state. They don't think ahead, they are all creatures of the moment. When a girl says "we're not going to have sex" it usually means "we're going to have sex". Obviously cuz shes already thinking about it.
wut
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On February 20 2012 14:34 squattincassanova wrote:
Don't forget, there was a lot of alcohol and weed involved. Its not like the girl was completely sober and conscious when she did it. There was music, distraction, drugs and she was obviously in state. They don't think ahead, they are all creatures of the moment. When a girl says "we're not going to have sex" it usually means "we're going to have sex". Obviously cuz shes already thinking about it.
It has nothing to do with the fact that shes intoxicated or the scene shes in. All it is that shes is a whore. Simple
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On February 20 2012 16:16 Kojak21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 14:34 squattincassanova wrote:
Don't forget, there was a lot of alcohol and weed involved. Its not like the girl was completely sober and conscious when she did it. There was music, distraction, drugs and she was obviously in state. They don't think ahead, they are all creatures of the moment. When a girl says "we're not going to have sex" it usually means "we're going to have sex". Obviously cuz shes already thinking about it. It has nothing to do with the fact that shes intoxicated or the scene shes in. All it is that shes is a whore. Simple
Probably that too lmao!
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On February 20 2012 16:16 Kojak21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 14:34 squattincassanova wrote:
Don't forget, there was a lot of alcohol and weed involved. Its not like the girl was completely sober and conscious when she did it. There was music, distraction, drugs and she was obviously in state. They don't think ahead, they are all creatures of the moment. When a girl says "we're not going to have sex" it usually means "we're going to have sex". Obviously cuz shes already thinking about it. It has nothing to do with the fact that shes intoxicated or the scene shes in. All it is that shes is a whore. Simple
Please don't disrespect women. There is nothing wrong with women expressing their sexuality.
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