EG launch $10,000 Master's Cup Series League - Page 50

On May 03 2011 13:57 PtM wrote:

Your approach here is rather misguided. If the goal is to cultivate a strong international competitive scene, then the focus should be on making sure that it's as fair to all participants as possible. Since the organizers chose to invite several European teams and a team that has a heavy Korean presence, it's obvious that the goal isn't just to produce another North American league, so these factors should be relevant in this situation -- forcing players to choose which scene to participate in results in the scenes becoming more isolated and isn't good for the global scene.

Moreover, your emphasis on the Korean scene and the tradeoffs that specific players are making here isn't really germane to the issue. The same argument would apply even if the teams were exclusively based in NA and EU. Obviously, the latency difference isn't as serious from EU to NA, but it's transparently the case that it's more fair to the EU players if the games alternate servers. Unlike your way of framing it, where people are making tradeoffs by moving to Korea, this is a question of players remaining in their home countries but still suffering when they play tournaments based on another continent.

Of course, you're right that nobody is obligated to accommodate any team, but that suggests a very strange set of goals. If you want to make a fair, competitive tournament and if you want participation from teams from different parts of the world, it's clear that alternating servers is the best approach.

On May 02 2011 14:35 Jotoco wrote:
I think we can all agree on one point:

In the end the blame is on Blizzard.

If we had:

1 - LAN;

2 - P2P Connection.

We would not have this problem.


For piracy concerns, each player should be connected to his "home" server for authentication and we would all be happy and would enjoy the best possible lag situation every game, every league. (and in Ladder too)

EDIT: Not to mention all the embarrassing problems with battle net on several tournaments so far.

Despite every European team agreeing to the ruleset without any concern, Team Liquid requested we make a rule

Additionally, it should be noted that our ruleset did and does allow teams to play on either BattleNet region if both teams agree upon it.

On May 04 2011 14:47 skipgamer wrote:
after listening to the sotg discussion... I believe not enough emphasis was put on EG's second statement on the discussion.

If Colbi was "just doing his job" as iNcontrol and idra were saying, he wouldn't have replied to tylers post at all. His reply was definitely one sided and aggressive towards liquid. If he really had the best intentions in mind he could have posted "we were unable to reach a conclusion in the discussion with liquid which would allow them to play with fair latency for their korean located players while still being beneficial for the tournament and all the teams involved"

There was no reason at all to say things like...



and



Which are irrelevant and have no purpose other than to make team liquid look bad on their forums, these kind of comments should definitely be kept to other outlets as tyler was suggesting.

I definitely felt for tyler as he was getting a bashing, as he had fair points.

On May 04 2011 14:26 illmanic wrote:
Tyler is making a stupid stupid argument on SOTG right now. Is he seriously saying that saying the fact that TL declined the invite deception? I don't see how stating a simple fact in any way deception. I really don't respect Tyler's opinion on this at all.