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MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 22 2011 16:38 GMT
#321
Nestea, Losira, July are all vying for the throne currently...we'll see how this GSL plays out.

I think Sheth should get a bit of consideration as well. He's a ladder beast and has done well so far in NASL. I'm really impressed by his play
Raavi
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark156 Posts
April 22 2011 16:42 GMT
#322
Nestea
Outside of Korea: Idra

Gonna be easier to answer tho, after the current season of tournaments (ign, gsl, nasl etc)

Disarm22
Profile Joined January 2011
United States151 Posts
April 22 2011 16:45 GMT
#323
as much as i want to vote idra, i have to go with, "the throne is empty". the game is still too young to determine who is the best zerg but all the contenders are excellent choices. i still think there are some strats that zerg has yet to come across or utilize to their fullest.
Cliiiiiiide!
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
April 22 2011 16:45 GMT
#324
I think that "the throne is currently empty" but the best Zergs are IdrA and NesTea as of now, but they still need to win something big, I think since they were eliminated from TSL3 (IdrA and NesTea) there hasn't been a "King Zerg" since then (pre-TSL3), I guess we just have to wait.
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Gunman_csz
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
April 22 2011 16:46 GMT
#325
I don't know why lame posters who don't even play the race or have seen the games from zerg's perspective come here talk shit about player x / y when they have 0 understanding And they mostly do this because just don't like certain players attitude/personality.

Began Starcraft journey on 5th May 2009
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 22 2011 16:49 GMT
#326
I gotta feeling that Losira has a lot of potential, especially based on recent matches.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
RedMosquito
Profile Joined September 2010
United States280 Posts
April 22 2011 16:53 GMT
#327
I think July is the best one right now. Although his final performance against mc was bad, everything else has been completely stellar. He took MVP to a full series in the world championships, and he single-handidly saved korean face in the team world championships.
He also doesn't leave games when he sees hallucinated void rays
ShamTao
Profile Joined September 2010
United States419 Posts
April 22 2011 16:54 GMT
#328
Not with those fingernails, Losira. yuck.
In the game of drones, you win or you die!
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 22 2011 16:55 GMT
#329
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 22 2011 16:59 GMT
#330
On April 23 2011 01:21 BlackJargon wrote:
Certainly not IdrA. The guy is amazing, but still does not show any of the creativity that other big zerg names do. It really depends on the match-up your considering to choose the best!



Ya see, I disagree.

If you get a chance, watch IdrA's stream ... He's surprisingly creative at times.

I once saw him do a spincrawler/hydra rush on Typhoon Peaks through too sets of backdoor rocks. Mechanically, he's simply capable executing tactics that most people just can't.

I would love to see what IdrA could with Spanishwa's build for instance. Spanishwa's build is great, but he takes a lot of unnecessary risks with his play style. I can imagine IdrA cleaning up that build and improving upon it. He basically learned Mr. Bitter's infestor build (and executed it better) in the span of a couple of games.

In general, he falls back on safer builds, but even in the last MLG and TSL you can see his play getting a lot more aggressive.

Really, the only thing that holds back IdrA is attitude -- not the BM, but the IMBA-sadness.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 22 2011 17:00 GMT
#331
On April 23 2011 01:55 zeru wrote:
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On April 23 2011 01:46 Gunman_csz wrote:
I don't know why lame posters who don't even play the race or have seen the games from zerg's perspective come here talk shit about player x / y when they have 0 understanding And they mostly do this because just don't like certain players attitude/personality.


Don't think a lot of people like MC's attitude yet everyone agrees that he's the best right now. People don't think idra is the best zerg because... wait for it... he's not the best zerg and isn't as feared, consistent and good as Nestea, Losira, Dimaga. People disliking someone doesn't make them ignorant of their results and skill, however apparently being a fanboy of them does in some cases.

You can't seriously put Dimaga in with Losira, NesTea and IdrA just because of the GSL WC, can you? Your point is about consistency, but what else has Dimaga done before that? The guy used to love baneling all-ins. Not a good pick for "consistent".
Writer@WriterYamato
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 22 2011 17:03 GMT
#332
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Gunman_csz
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
April 22 2011 17:12 GMT
#333
Yamato don't bother with him, he has a history of bashing the zerg race and idrA.
How does he even know (LOL) who is feared among the pro community? When most korean pros are asked who are your rivals they say idra, not dimaga. what has dimaga accomplished again? how do you know what foreigner professionals think of idrA. Because last time I checked every Zerg progamer in foreign seen looked up to idrA or at-least acknowledged his skills.

Zeru please for once stop spamming. You are not all-knowing, ominous god, which you think you are.
Began Starcraft journey on 5th May 2009
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
April 22 2011 17:14 GMT
#334
You could start a "who is the Protoss king?" thread on Team Liquid and Idra's fans would make sure he won it.
Hollis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States505 Posts
April 22 2011 17:17 GMT
#335
I will probably be warned or temp-banned for saying this, but I don't feel comfortable crowning any zerg "king" until I feel like zerg can consistently compete with the "real" races.

...Either through buffs or metagame evolution. There, I made it not necessarily about balance.
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
April 22 2011 17:20 GMT
#336
On April 23 2011 02:00 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 01:55 zeru wrote:
On April 23 2011 01:46 Gunman_csz wrote:
I don't know why lame posters who don't even play the race or have seen the games from zerg's perspective come here talk shit about player x / y when they have 0 understanding And they mostly do this because just don't like certain players attitude/personality.


Don't think a lot of people like MC's attitude yet everyone agrees that he's the best right now. People don't think idra is the best zerg because... wait for it... he's not the best zerg and isn't as feared, consistent and good as Nestea, Losira, Dimaga. People disliking someone doesn't make them ignorant of their results and skill, however apparently being a fanboy of them does in some cases.

You can't seriously put Dimaga in with Losira, NesTea and IdrA just because of the GSL WC, can you? Your point is about consistency, but what else has Dimaga done before that? The guy used to love baneling all-ins. Not a good pick for "consistent".


Hes won more tournaments than al of them so why not be able to compere him?
Chill Winston......
Alphasquad
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria505 Posts
April 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#337
On April 23 2011 01:59 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 01:21 BlackJargon wrote:
Certainly not IdrA. The guy is amazing, but still does not show any of the creativity that other big zerg names do. It really depends on the match-up your considering to choose the best!



Ya see, I disagree.

If you get a chance, watch IdrA's stream ... He's surprisingly creative at times.

I once saw him do a spincrawler/hydra rush on Typhoon Peaks through too sets of backdoor rocks. Mechanically, he's simply capable executing tactics that most people just can't.

I would love to see what IdrA could with Spanishwa's build for instance. Spanishwa's build is great, but he takes a lot of unnecessary risks with his play style. I can imagine IdrA cleaning up that build and improving upon it. He basically learned Mr. Bitter's infestor build (and executed it better) in the span of a couple of games.

In general, he falls back on safer builds, but even in the last MLG and TSL you can see his play getting a lot more aggressive.

Really, the only thing that holds back IdrA is attitude -- not the BM, but the IMBA-sadness.


i basically agree with you but a professional player who insists on doing his one strategy every time and then complains about failing is neither really professional nor the greatest player

in my opinion a great player, especially as zerg, should be diverse, adaptive and also be up to date in terms of evolving strategies - idra isnt and just because he changes his style since a few weeks wont change this fact

for me players like mr. bitter are definitely more inspiration
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 17:25:32
April 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#338
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Mintastic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States166 Posts
April 22 2011 17:24 GMT
#339
Based on overall results and the fact that no one during GSL nominations want to play him, Zergbong is the king.
테징징
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
April 22 2011 17:30 GMT
#340
The first Zerg who truly understands Protoss will be my king.

Maybe NesTea, for me he seems like the one who sets the trends.
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