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Wihl
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden472 Posts
April 22 2011 17:31 GMT
#341
Nestea based on results but honestly there are so many zerg players that are quite close to each other in skill level. Look at Mondragon for example, he could definately be up there if he just made some better tactical decisions during games.

So many players seem to do stuff not because its good but because it fits their plan. "I'm going to be super aggressive this game" -> proceed to drop in tight choke over and over, transition into having no army. I think LosirA has a good chance of getting to the top or close to it.
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
April 22 2011 17:32 GMT
#342
what no spanishiwa? dude is straight up rock star.
Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1
Gunman_csz
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
April 22 2011 17:33 GMT
#343
Zeru, you are just making yourself look retarted (like always). Copy-pasting results on online cups and using them as a proof of consistency is beyond lols. Keep on trying hard to look smart, you never will.

Ret / Haypro / Huk / TLO / Jinro haven't stayed long in korea?
You follow the korean scene obviously and chat up with korean players on msn all the time too, right?

"lol definatly not idra." - any bias at all?

Yea Idra is acknowledged has a beast of a player, that doesn't mean he is feared of course, it just means he is cute?? - wait what?????
Began Starcraft journey on 5th May 2009
Kal_rA1
Profile Joined January 2011
160 Posts
April 22 2011 17:34 GMT
#344
jaedong.
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lol jk
Jaedong Oz
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#345
Sheth that guy is a damn gosu
get rich or die mining
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Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
April 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#346
On April 23 2011 02:32 KillerPlague wrote:
what no spanishiwa? dude is straight up rock star.


He may be, but he hasn't won anything, except that Minigun showmatch as far as I know.

Being popular doesn't make you a contender to be the best player in the world, and although Spanishiwa is a great player and is trying his hardest to revolutionize the race, he still needs to show up to tournaments and do well to be considered a top player.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 17:36:59
April 22 2011 17:35 GMT
#347
On April 23 2011 01:31 Loki57 wrote:
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On April 23 2011 01:21 BlackJargon wrote:
Certainly not IdrA. The guy is amazing, but still does not show any of the creativity that other big zerg names do. It really depends on the match-up your considering to choose the best!

These are the ones that just drive me nuts, people that STILL think that ALL IdrA does is macro. Have you even seen any of his games in the past month or so?


This thread isn't asking for style, it's asking for results. What results have this so called idra revolutionized play produced in the past month?

It really depends on what you view as the best. If you want the best based off recent results? July/Losira. The best based off overall accomplishments? Nestea.
The Notorious Winkles
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 17:39:38
April 22 2011 17:36 GMT
#348
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Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
April 22 2011 17:39 GMT
#349
I feel losira is the strongest currently, however with who is next opponent is in code S I can't see him getting past Ro16. A lot of these players have been at the height of their race, but it's constantly changing. Overall, I should probably say Nestea, but atm, no. I'm looking forward to seeing more of violet in Code A, he looked great.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 22 2011 17:42 GMT
#350
On April 23 2011 02:20 CursedRich wrote:
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On April 23 2011 02:00 yamato77 wrote:
On April 23 2011 01:55 zeru wrote:
On April 23 2011 01:46 Gunman_csz wrote:
I don't know why lame posters who don't even play the race or have seen the games from zerg's perspective come here talk shit about player x / y when they have 0 understanding And they mostly do this because just don't like certain players attitude/personality.


Don't think a lot of people like MC's attitude yet everyone agrees that he's the best right now. People don't think idra is the best zerg because... wait for it... he's not the best zerg and isn't as feared, consistent and good as Nestea, Losira, Dimaga. People disliking someone doesn't make them ignorant of their results and skill, however apparently being a fanboy of them does in some cases.

You can't seriously put Dimaga in with Losira, NesTea and IdrA just because of the GSL WC, can you? Your point is about consistency, but what else has Dimaga done before that? The guy used to love baneling all-ins. Not a good pick for "consistent".


Hes won more tournaments than al of them so why not be able to compere him?

quanitity =/= quality. Until Dimaga wins something big, I don't think he's anywhere near the top. He's just riding a hype-train from his wins in the GSL WC.
Writer@WriterYamato
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
April 22 2011 17:44 GMT
#351
no one
Loki57
Profile Joined February 2011
United States292 Posts
April 22 2011 17:52 GMT
#352
On April 23 2011 02:35 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 01:31 Loki57 wrote:
On April 23 2011 01:21 BlackJargon wrote:
Certainly not IdrA. The guy is amazing, but still does not show any of the creativity that other big zerg names do. It really depends on the match-up your considering to choose the best!

These are the ones that just drive me nuts, people that STILL think that ALL IdrA does is macro. Have you even seen any of his games in the past month or so?


This thread isn't asking for style, it's asking for results. What results have this so called idra revolutionized play produced in the past month?

It really depends on what you view as the best. If you want the best based off recent results? July/Losira. The best based off overall accomplishments? Nestea.

What so called results have ANY zerg put up recently? The only things are very specific GSL match-ups or obscure online tournaments or even like a simple clan in-house. NO Zerg is putting up results right now, which is why I think there's basically no "king" at this point. (If any, it's still Nestea) I'm just sick of the "creativity" and "results" argument, because quite frankly no Zerg in the world is really doing that right now.
"Dedication without talent is a daydream. Talent without dedication is a nightmare."
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
April 22 2011 17:53 GMT
#353
I voted for Nestea. I don't take his games vs Goody seriously at all for a reason I won't specifically mention but anyone should know. Last season he lost to San who has now proven himself one of the best protoss in the world and it was an extremely close game. He then lost to Ensnare but I really hate taking results into account right after losing a game against a different player. I feel like Nestea would never lose to Ensnare in a bo3 under normal circumstances. In the WC's he lost to Dimaga who is a very good player. Dimaga got a build order win and even with Nestea's ZvZ record it is still a very volatile matchup. They are also still technically 2-2 overall.
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
April 22 2011 17:53 GMT
#354
This is a great article! It seems almost final edit worthy :D
Dictator for Life of the PuMa Fanclub/ DRG, PuMA, Sage, Puzzle, MMA Fighting!
Gunman_csz
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
April 22 2011 18:06 GMT
#355
On April 23 2011 02:36 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 02:33 Gunman_csz wrote:
Zeru, you are just making yourself look retarted (like always). Copy-pasting results on online cups and using them as a proof of consistency is beyond lols. Keep on trying hard to look smart, you never will.

Ret / Haypro / Huk / TLO / Jinro haven't stayed long in korea?
You follow the korean scene obviously and chat up with korean players on msn all the time too, right?

"lol definatly not idra." - any bias at all?

Yea Idra is acknowledged has a beast of a player, that doesn't mean he is feared of course, it just means he is cute?? - wait what?????

jinro is a beast of a player, is he feared? i wouldn't say he is, no matter how much of a fan of him i am. You cant compare jinro to mvp, just like you cant compare idra to nestea. its just silly in my eyes and thats not because i dislike idras mindset towards the game.


Your such a champion for records,results and consistency, yet your memory failed you when it comes to jinro.

Jinro lost 0-2 to white-ra in dreamhack, 0-2 to anypro in WC, 0-1 to July in korea Vs world, and 1-2 IdrA in gcpl. 1-2 to Hongun in GSL march (in da 2nd round aka ro16) and 0-2 before that in gcpl vs select (these are in chronological order) cough consistency cough.

Also Terran have a clear race King, aka MVP and a prince MKP. Zergs don't have such cut&clear figurehead this is mainly due to how well other races are performing while zerg is still not doing so good.
Began Starcraft journey on 5th May 2009
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
April 22 2011 18:08 GMT
#356
Nestea, with Sen next and then IdrA.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Kazang
Profile Joined August 2010
578 Posts
April 22 2011 18:09 GMT
#357
Sen and Losira are my favourite zergs, I just like their styles.
douche
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden42 Posts
April 22 2011 18:11 GMT
#358
Untill Jaedong joins SC2, July will be the King.
“I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.”
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
April 22 2011 18:14 GMT
#359
Zerg feels very unstable as a race unlike terran or protoss it is harder to see who is better atm.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
English
Profile Joined April 2010
United States475 Posts
April 22 2011 18:27 GMT
#360
I'd say IdrA. As the king, many of his followers reflect and mimic his personality. If IdrA doesn't see solutions, many zergs look to him and decide there isn't a solution either.

But in all seriousness, I'm a big IdrA fan and enjoy watching him play over other zergs. I like how straight forward he is in his analysis and his personality has grown on me.
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