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Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 01:35:46
April 22 2011 02:17 GMT
#1
It's Nestea. Stop bumping this thread.

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NEW POLL

Poll: Who is the currently the Zerg King? Updated 7/25/2011

Nestea (1487)
 
77%

Idra (178)
 
9%

The throne is empty (79)
 
4%

Sen (62)
 
3%

DongRaeGu (59)
 
3%

Losira (26)
 
1%

Dimaga (19)
 
1%

July (16)
 
1%

Morrow (14)
 
1%

1940 total votes

Your vote: Who is the currently the Zerg King? Updated 7/25/2011

(Vote): The throne is empty
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Losira
(Vote): DongRaeGu
(Vote): Sen
(Vote): Idra
(Vote): July
(Vote): Dimaga
(Vote): Morrow










Note:THIS IS NOT A BALANCE DISCUSSION, please don't make it one.

Who is currently the best Zerg in the world?
This is a question that has not been asked in awhile. Lets take a look at our contenders.

The Man on the Throne: "A true king is neither husband nor father; he considers his throne and nothing else." - Pierre Corneille



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Nestea

Accomplishments:
[image loading]2010 Sony Ericsson Global StarCraft 2 League Open Season 2
[image loading]Gainward PlayXP.com SC2 Tournament StarCraft II Tournament 2nd Place
Top 4 2011 Intel GSL Sponsorship League Season 2: Code S
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[image loading]2011 Intel GSL Sponsorship League May: Code S


Since his GSL Open Season 2 win and strong GSL showings in Open Season 3 and GSL January, IMNestea/Zergbong has been generally accepted as the best Zerg player in the World. However a string of poor performances have put his grasp on the throne into question. The most significant of these defeats have been:

1. Losing in GSL March Code S Group Play
2. Losing in the first round of the TSL 3
3. Losing in the first round of the GSL World Championships

Despite his disappointing losses, Nestea has maintained his image as greatest Zerg player in the world due to his incredible success in ZvZ. Nestea was formerly undefeated in live TV matches until Dimaga beat him 2-1 in the GSL World Championships. Is Nestea still the Zerg Overmind? Or have his recent tournament failures pulled back into the pack?




Contenders: “When you strike at a king, you must kill him” - Ralph Waldo Emerson



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July

Accomplishments:
[image loading]2011 Intel GSL Sponsorship League Season 2: Code S

The God of War is a bit of an enigma right now. In GSL March Code S he crushed through players like Nada and MVP to secure a spot in the finals. However his quick 3-1 defeat at the hands of oGsMC and loss to MVP in the GSLWC make him a questionable pick. Is his high aggressive low econ play a viable long term style or have opponents already figured his strategies out?


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Losira

Accomplishments:
[image loading]2011 Intel GSL Sponsorship League Season 2: Code A
[image loading]Clash of the Houses: Incredible Miracle

IMLosira aka MiniTea is perhaps the hottest Zerg player in the World right now. Coming off of a dominating run through Code A. Losira is one of the few Zergs with a good record versus protoss at 14-6 and like his teammate Nestea, Losira has a terrific record in ZvZ at 7-1. However Losira has not yet been tested against top Code S talents such as MC, MKP, and Nestea. GSL May will be his chance to show if he is a true contender for the throne.



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Dimaga

Accomplishments:
yeah...link

The only man who can say he has beaten Nestea on television, Dimaga is our Ukrainian superhero. The only foreigner to defeat a Korean in the GSLWC, Dimaga also had an impressive performance in the Korea vs. The World showmatch, defeating MVP and July. Yet despite these victories, Dimaga has no Top Tournament wins to show for. Is Dimaga about to produce a top level win? Or will he sit in mediocrity in small European tournaments?



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Sen

Accomplishments:
[image loading]2011 GSL World Championship Asia Qualifiers
[image loading]2010 FXOpen Path of Ascension Invitational
[image loading]2011 IEM Season V Chinese Qualifier
[image loading]2010-2011 DreamHost Root Gaming WARZONE Tournament
Man of Day[9]'s nightmares

With the Korean battlenet ID Zergking, Sen clearly has his eyes on the throne. The best player from Taiwan, Sen definitely deserves a spot amongst the World's best Zergs. However, Sen has not done very well in top foreign competition with early losses in the GSL and MLG Dallas. Sen also has a losing record in ZvT, highlighted by his recent loss to SlayerSBoxer in the TSL 3. It's tough to criticize Sen since he is also a full time university student in Taiwan and his losses have been against some of the best players in the world. We can look forward to seeing Sen at his full potential after he graduates from college this year.



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IdrA

Accomplishments:
[image loading]2010 Major League Gaming Pro Circuit: DC
[image loading]2010 IEM Global Challenge Gamescom
[image loading]IGN Proleague Season One

EGIdra aka The Gracken is the the game's most polarizing figure. Like the New York Yankees and Manchester United, you either hate him or love him, there is no middle ground. Known for his fantastic mechanics, preference for macro, and rage-filled outbursts, Idra is perhaps the most important figure for Starcraft 2 e-sports. He enters any foreign tournament as a favorite to win yet he has not achieved gold since MLG DC back in October (EG Masters Cup doesn't count guys).

I would compare him to Kobe Bryant. Kobe is an asshole, as a lifetime Lakers fan I feel comfortable saying this. But Kobe is also an alpha male and a winner. He has no time for lesser beings and those who do not give the game 100% focus. Kobe also has a temper and a history of clashes with authorities; he racks up more technicals than any other superstar.

Idra went all-in when he decided to uproot his life and go to Korea to give 100% of himself to Starcraft. Like Kobe he treats inferior players with disdain and has no time for those who don't share his focus.

But that is where the comparison ends. Kobe is a true competitor. Again and again he has willed himself to the top of the Basketball world. Idra's play has always been impressive yet his results have been lackluster. He also has a penchant to complain and pout when he views the odds to be stacked against him. Many were disappointed when it appeared that Idra gave up against TLO at MLG Dallas and against oGsMC at the Dreamhack invitational. Champions do not give up. Idra has the talent to become our Zerg King, but unless he changes his heart he will just be another Lebron James.




Wild Cards: "Wild Card Bitches! Yeeeehaww" - Charlie Kelly


Ah the wildcards. Some of them are former winners who have fallen off, such as Fruitdealer and Moon, while others have been impressive newcomers, such as Sheth and Min. While none of these players are currently a legitimate challenger to Nestea's throne, they are interesting players who may someday rise to the top.

Fruitdealer - GSL Open Season 1 Champion. Has performed poorly since.

Moon - 2nd Place IEM World Championships. But bumped out of Code A in March.

Darkforce - Badass Name. Won a ton of small European tournaments but has yet to make a splash in top tournaments.

Sheth - Super Nice guy. Like Darkforce he has yet to make a good run in top tournaments.

Check - Meh. Just meh.

Mondragon - Roaches. Has not played enough tournaments yet but his TSL 3 showing was very impressive.

SlayersMin - Great GSTL performance.

Leenock - Keep trying Leenock!

Morrow - Very good Zerg with several runner up performances in top tournaments.

Ret - Talented as hell, disappointing performances in large tournaments.

Kyrix - Has not impressed since GStars tournament.

Zenio - Has not impressed since he stopped dyeing his hair.

Moonglade - thanks schimmetje, I overlooked him.

MVPViolet - Good showing so far in Code A.

ZeNEX CoCa - Good showing so far in Code A.

SlayerS Yugioh- Code A.

TSLRevival- Code B?

ZeNEX line- Code B?

Empire.Nerchio - He is ripping through all the EU online tournaments. 1st in TLPD, oddly enough, he switched to zerg from random only two months or so ago. - 5ukkub

Personally I think Nerchio needs to play a big tournament before he gets any real consideration.


Poll: Who is currently the best Zerg in the world?

The throne is currently empty (1683)
 
31%

Nestea (1528)
 
29%

Idra (914)
 
17%

Sen (595)
 
11%

Dimaga (261)
 
5%

July (208)
 
4%

Losira (155)
 
3%

5344 total votes

Your vote: Who is currently the best Zerg in the world?

(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): July
(Vote): Losira
(Vote): Dimaga
(Vote): Sen
(Vote): Idra
(Vote): The throne is currently empty







Conclusions:

For 3-4 months the undisputed best Zerg in the world was IMNestea. His consistently high performance in the toughest league, GSL Code S, and ZvZ dominance made it clear he was the best. I believe he is still the front-runner but only by a hair. Overall I voted for the empty throne and I'm glad that the polls agreed.

GSL May Code S may be our answer to this question. If Nestea finishes with a top 4 spot, he will probably retain the title. The only threat may be if July or Losira makes it to the finals or wins the entire thing. If nothing else, I'm glad that the discussion proved that Idra is by far the game's most polarizing figure. Every other comment seemed to be a post attacking or defending him and his play.




:edit: 4/30/2011
New poll for the denizens of this thread.

Poll: Poll 2

I am an unreasonably fanatical IdrA-loving moron. (665)
 
62%

I am a retardedly biased Idra-hating dumbass. (414)
 
38%

1079 total votes

Your vote: Poll 2

(Vote): I am a retardedly biased Idra-hating dumbass.
(Vote): I am an unreasonably fanatical IdrA-loving moron.


Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
April 22 2011 02:18 GMT
#2
in my opionion - even tho nestea is still considered teh best by the majority he needs to prove at once again :§
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
April 22 2011 02:19 GMT
#3
Based off both play and results, mister bong.
The Notorious Winkles
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
April 22 2011 02:19 GMT
#4
Nestea is stilll the best, if only for the fact he gets to practice with much better help than anybody else on that list.

I wish dimaga would enter more tournies since he is extremely talented and could do so much dmg.
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
April 22 2011 02:20 GMT
#5
If IdrA adjusted his attitude a bit, he'd be a very strong contender IMO.
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
April 22 2011 02:20 GMT
#6
ZergBong obviously.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
April 22 2011 02:22 GMT
#7
Dimaga, that smile, it's a winners smile :D
Yes I am
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
April 22 2011 02:23 GMT
#8
I think its still Nestea and IdrA.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
April 22 2011 02:24 GMT
#9
IdrA no doubt
dont ever say that
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
April 22 2011 02:24 GMT
#10
Not sure how anyone is supposed to answer this without voting for whoever they like best really.
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 02:25:24
April 22 2011 02:24 GMT
#11
I really don't see an alternative to Nestea for spot number 1. The guy is extremely talented, knows a lot from experience, and has the skill to back it up.

Spot two is a different matter. Any one of Sen, Idra, Dimaga, July, and Losira could be considered number two. I feel like after spot 1, it's really too close to call.

Edit: PS I love the Kobe-Lebron argument in the OP :3 LAKERS HWAITING!
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
April 22 2011 02:24 GMT
#12
IdrA is by far the most mechanically sound Zerg, but Nestea is able to scout out and defend the most cheese, which is crucial as Zerg. Either way, this thread is just a popularity contest.
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-vVvTitan-
Profile Joined August 2010
United States473 Posts
April 22 2011 02:24 GMT
#13
Dimaga is the most impressive imo
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MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
April 22 2011 02:26 GMT
#14
I think that until I see NesTea play this season, Losira is the no. 1.
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
April 22 2011 02:27 GMT
#15
idra....indeed, solid player, competing in every tournaments and placing well in each and every of them! thats the difference between him and the others I think, his participation in the tournys.
+ he has a controversial personnality which adds some drama, which is even more entertaining imo.!
Banelings, "They're cute, they live in a nest". -Artosis
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
April 22 2011 02:27 GMT
#16
The fact that Idra is winning this poll makes it a popularity contest.
The Notorious Winkles
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
April 22 2011 02:28 GMT
#17
ST.Curious!

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/1893789/스타테일큐리어스

best zerg record on KR LADDER
You know what I'm talking about
Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
April 22 2011 02:29 GMT
#18
IdrA :O
AeonStrife
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States918 Posts
April 22 2011 02:30 GMT
#19
I like Idra, but Nestea is still in Korea participating in the GSL. I would say you have to be on top of your game to continue there. So Nestea is pretty much up there.
Whats worse...US Poltics or SC2 Balance Talks...
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 22 2011 02:30 GMT
#20
Nestea
I'd say Losira and IdrA are tied for 2nd atm. Although i want to see more games of losira vs top players
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