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S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
November 07 2011 01:12 GMT
#1621
On November 07 2011 10:10 John Madden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 10:01 S4KuR4 wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:56 Assirra wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:05 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Top 3 are Nestea, Stephano and Losira.

July is not close anymore IMO. Idra has to prove it in GSL first.

How the hell is July below Stephano?
He got in a GSL final and was in the semifinals 2gsl's ago as the only non terran knocked out by MVP.
NONE of Stephano's achievements come even close to that...


You can't really compare two players' achievements while one player is totally new... We'll have to wait ;P

Stephano is nowhere near top tier, he hs not proven himself yet.


You must be trolling.

Stephano has been showing the best foreign results and skill that we haven't seen in a long time.

If you don't think he's top tier foreigner you are crazy.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 01:16:50
November 07 2011 01:16 GMT
#1622
Can't really compare Korea to Foreignland, imo. Nestea obviously the Korean zerg king. Stephano or Sen for foreigners.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
November 07 2011 01:17 GMT
#1623
On November 07 2011 10:12 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 10:10 John Madden wrote:
On November 07 2011 10:01 S4KuR4 wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:56 Assirra wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:05 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Top 3 are Nestea, Stephano and Losira.

July is not close anymore IMO. Idra has to prove it in GSL first.

How the hell is July below Stephano?
He got in a GSL final and was in the semifinals 2gsl's ago as the only non terran knocked out by MVP.
NONE of Stephano's achievements come even close to that...


You can't really compare two players' achievements while one player is totally new... We'll have to wait ;P

Stephano is nowhere near top tier, he hs not proven himself yet.


You must be trolling.

Stephano has been showing the best foreign results and skill that we haven't seen in a long time.

If you don't think he's top tier foreigner you are crazy.


I'll wait before I drink the Stephano kool-aide I think.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
November 07 2011 01:30 GMT
#1624
On November 07 2011 10:10 John Madden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 10:01 S4KuR4 wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:56 Assirra wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:05 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Top 3 are Nestea, Stephano and Losira.

July is not close anymore IMO. Idra has to prove it in GSL first.

How the hell is July below Stephano?
He got in a GSL final and was in the semifinals 2gsl's ago as the only non terran knocked out by MVP.
NONE of Stephano's achievements come even close to that...


You can't really compare two players' achievements while one player is totally new... We'll have to wait ;P

Stephano is nowhere near top tier, he hs not proven himself yet.


Yeah, winning more prize money in 2 weeks than any foreigner has won total is nothing.
Stephano top tier? He must prove he's better than bronze first!
I'll call Nada.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 07 2011 01:33 GMT
#1625
Any vote other than Nestea is wrong. DRG is probably second, and after that maybe Idra.
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 01:50:46
November 07 2011 01:39 GMT
#1626
On November 07 2011 10:33 forsooth wrote:
Any vote other than Nestea is wrong. DRG is probably second, and after that maybe Idra.


I'm an idra fan but I think losira july and coca go before him.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 01:43:18
November 07 2011 01:42 GMT
#1627
On November 07 2011 10:30 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 10:10 John Madden wrote:
On November 07 2011 10:01 S4KuR4 wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:56 Assirra wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:05 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Top 3 are Nestea, Stephano and Losira.

July is not close anymore IMO. Idra has to prove it in GSL first.

How the hell is July below Stephano?
He got in a GSL final and was in the semifinals 2gsl's ago as the only non terran knocked out by MVP.
NONE of Stephano's achievements come even close to that...


You can't really compare two players' achievements while one player is totally new... We'll have to wait ;P

Stephano is nowhere near top tier, he hs not proven himself yet.


Yeah, winning more prize money in 2 weeks than any foreigner has won total is nothing.
Stephano top tier? He must prove he's better than bronze first!

Well this was clearly about the best of the world.
Did you see that someone rated Stephano higher then both Losira and July?
Because that was where the "he has to prove himself" was from.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 07 2011 01:45 GMT
#1628
On November 07 2011 10:42 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 10:30 lololol wrote:
On November 07 2011 10:10 John Madden wrote:
On November 07 2011 10:01 S4KuR4 wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:56 Assirra wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:05 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Top 3 are Nestea, Stephano and Losira.

July is not close anymore IMO. Idra has to prove it in GSL first.

How the hell is July below Stephano?
He got in a GSL final and was in the semifinals 2gsl's ago as the only non terran knocked out by MVP.
NONE of Stephano's achievements come even close to that...


You can't really compare two players' achievements while one player is totally new... We'll have to wait ;P

Stephano is nowhere near top tier, he hs not proven himself yet.


Yeah, winning more prize money in 2 weeks than any foreigner has won total is nothing.
Stephano top tier? He must prove he's better than bronze first!

Well this was clearly about the best of the world.
Did you see that someone rated Stephano higher then both Losira and July?
Because that was where the "he has to prove himself" was from.


I think Stephano has at least better ZvZ and ZvP than July.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
November 07 2011 01:48 GMT
#1629
On November 07 2011 10:17 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 10:12 Toppp wrote:
On November 07 2011 10:10 John Madden wrote:
On November 07 2011 10:01 S4KuR4 wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:56 Assirra wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:05 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Top 3 are Nestea, Stephano and Losira.

July is not close anymore IMO. Idra has to prove it in GSL first.

How the hell is July below Stephano?
He got in a GSL final and was in the semifinals 2gsl's ago as the only non terran knocked out by MVP.
NONE of Stephano's achievements come even close to that...


You can't really compare two players' achievements while one player is totally new... We'll have to wait ;P

Stephano is nowhere near top tier, he hs not proven himself yet.


You must be trolling.

Stephano has been showing the best foreign results and skill that we haven't seen in a long time.

If you don't think he's top tier foreigner you are crazy.


I'll wait before I drink the Stephano kool-aide I think.

I'm pretty sure everyone else drinking it is just trying to fool me into drinking, then laugh at me when it tastes awful. Jokes on them!
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
November 07 2011 01:50 GMT
#1630
idra
Loki57
Profile Joined February 2011
United States292 Posts
November 07 2011 01:54 GMT
#1631
On November 07 2011 10:30 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 10:10 John Madden wrote:
On November 07 2011 10:01 S4KuR4 wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:56 Assirra wrote:
On November 07 2011 09:05 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Top 3 are Nestea, Stephano and Losira.

July is not close anymore IMO. Idra has to prove it in GSL first.

How the hell is July below Stephano?
He got in a GSL final and was in the semifinals 2gsl's ago as the only non terran knocked out by MVP.
NONE of Stephano's achievements come even close to that...


You can't really compare two players' achievements while one player is totally new... We'll have to wait ;P

Stephano is nowhere near top tier, he hs not proven himself yet.


Yeah, winning more prize money in 2 weeks than any foreigner has won total is nothing.
Stephano top tier? He must prove he's better than bronze first!

Winning money isn't directly indicative of skill though; as said before he dodged basically all of the good koreans at IPL3 and the singular good player he played at ESWC was MKP who played some pretty awful builds. It would be easy to point out the 19th he got at this past MLG when he faced competition that was obviously tougher. He has some talent but he indeed still hasn't really proven himself on the big stage against top-tier players.
"Dedication without talent is a daydream. Talent without dedication is a nightmare."
Ciraxis
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia400 Posts
November 07 2011 01:54 GMT
#1632
Nestea, but Stephano should be on that list with his recent IPL and ESWC victories. Nestea must be considered as the legendary Zerg of 2011, and Stephano, along with DRG and LosirA as the upcommers.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
November 07 2011 06:58 GMT
#1633
Ugh...come on guys. Stephano is new. He may indeed be the best foreign Zerg, but two months of play is NOT enough to cement that decision yet. Acting like saying anything other than "Stephano" is ridiculous is...well quite frankly ridiculous. He's good, very good, and has immense potential and based on his results he's top 3 foreign zergs ez pz. But that doesn't make him the best overall, not until we give it a bit of time.

As of now I really feel like (I know I'm gonna get anti-fans yelling at me) Idra is the only viable pick as of now. Not to say I'm ruling out Stephano, but for all we know it could be a hot streak.
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
November 11 2011 11:01 GMT
#1634
Can we honestly say that Anybody has immaculate ZvT?
Must be the metagame or something but ZvT lately has been quite poor in the GSL.

Everyone raved how DRG was the top of this foodchain, but now I have doubts.
Nestea constantly get thrashed by ZvT, most of the time holding by the skin of his teeth.

I have to say, I enjoy watching Leenock's ZvT best, his style would make any Terran be paranoid and scan like 800000 times...instead of making a damn raven.
moo...for DRG
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
November 11 2011 11:09 GMT
#1635
My current top 5:

1. Nestea
2. IdrA
3. DRG
4. Stephano
5. Sen
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
November 11 2011 11:14 GMT
#1636
would be nice if people stopped bumping old threads.
BleaK_
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway593 Posts
November 11 2011 11:14 GMT
#1637
On November 11 2011 20:09 Angelbelow wrote:
My current top 5:

1. Nestea
2. IdrA
3. DRG
4. Stephano
5. Sen


That's exactly mine aswell, being the idra fanboy that I am.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
November 11 2011 11:21 GMT
#1638
On November 11 2011 20:14 Elean wrote:
would be nice if people stopped bumping old threads.


just because the thread is old doesn't mean the discussion is no longer relevant.
moo...for DRG
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
November 11 2011 11:25 GMT
#1639
I'm surprised this thread is still going strong. The fact that there is so much controversy about who's up there, especially around Stephano, already means that there's a number of people with similar results. We need more data, such as another couple of tournaments. And big ones...

And I'm especially wary of anyone propping up Stephano as the best, because he's so new to the scene. If one or two wins can cement your position, does Polt's GSL win make him the greatest terran? It was the greatest tournament, huge prize pool.. No, right? He's great, but it's not enough.

So, read the OP, and wait patiently for history to unfold.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 11 2011 11:52 GMT
#1640
I'm quite surprised this is still being discussed as well. Among the three races currently, protoss is still up in the air, terran was shaky for awhile until MVP came roaring back, but zerg has had the clear best for the longest. It became grossly apparent to me that Nestea was top dog in the zerg domain around gsl January over fruitdealer as the skill and results displayed between the two widened greatly. Since then Nestea has never come close to losing his crown to any zerg.

Might want to rename the thead as Who is currently the Zerg Prince. Or perhaps best foreign zerg. Now that might spark some debate.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
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