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Who is currently the Zerg King? - Page 80
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Roghie
Norway18 Posts
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rza
Canada384 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Sure it's a credit to him for getting into those positions and keeping his advantage, but it just shows how close things are and games quickly swing massively to one players favour; and the same sort of things can be pointed out with a lot of games. I don't think i've seen enough games to comment on if i think Nerchio, Dimaga and Morrow are just inferior in playing, but isn't it irrelevant without results? If a player is fundamentally better then the volatility affects you less, but it seems to hurt IdrA's results just as much as those other 3 guys while Stephano's results look more like Korean-in-foreigner tournament winrates recently. On November 07 2011 06:54 arfyron wrote: That doesn't make any sense. Is elfi better than huk because he beat him in a PvP? All that shows is who has the better mirror match up. It doesn't make sense to compare players on completely even terms? I didn't mean as an overall who-is-better thing but just as the first thing to look at. Unfortunately some of the mirrors can be a bit shit and coinflippy i guess. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On November 07 2011 07:07 infinity2k9 wrote: You say to look at solely their gameplay completely unbiased. But then bringing up their recent results against Korean's as the main important decision towards who's best; although i think we agree on the main things. I think there's many reasons why they are not as big of a deal as made out to be; but focusing right down on the actual gameplay in the Bomber series for example since it's the most talked about.. in the first IdrA win, one bad positioned engagement by Bomber got him caught out against banelings and the supply difference became like 70. The game lasted a lot longer anyway but it's one clear turning point. The second IdrA win Bomber built only marines and when that failed it was in IdrA's hands. Sure it's a credit to him for getting into those positions and keeping his advantage, but it just shows how close things are and games quickly swing massively to one players favour; and the same sort of things can be pointed out with a lot of games. I don't think i've seen enough games to comment on if i think Nerchio, Dimaga and Morrow are just inferior in playing, but isn't it irrelevant without results? If a player is fundamentally better then the volatility affects you less, but it seems to hurt IdrA's results just as much as those other 3 guys while Stephano's results look more like Korean-in-foreigner tournament winrates recently. And how many top Koreans did Stephano dodge to win IPL3? Nerchio, Morrow and Dimaga have no recent results to boast of. What did we argue about in the first place? x) I am actually being up late, arguing about this shit with random guys on a forum D: | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On November 07 2011 06:37 infinity2k9 wrote: IdrA fans just seem to ignore results as they see fit; as i said in the most obvious way to compare players is by head-to-head results and he's behind against Nerchio, Sen and Morrow and hasn't played Dimaga or Stephano - all 5 of which are ahead of him in ELO. That's probably just an oddity, and i wouldn't use it as justification for them being superior. But until IdrA is actually anymore consistent than any of these other guys then he's objectively not better. . So the best way to judge players is on head-to-head results or whatever ranking TLPD comes up with?? Those are probably the least reliable sources of judgement known to starcraft,exept maybe for the highest earning players ranking^^. In the TLPD foreigner, Huk is behind Moon, Naniwa is behind Bling... In head to head Nestea and Dimaga are tied. Stephano and IdrA are ahead of Nerchio and Dimaga, Sen is still impressive but is ZvT is not on the same level as the other two. Morrow is a wild card, he doesn't lose to a lot of people lately but we haven't seen him at a lan since forever. | ||
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obsKura
Ireland1061 Posts
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InvXXVII
Canada242 Posts
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
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Marth753
United States40 Posts
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Primal666
Slovenia418 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On November 07 2011 08:14 Primal666 wrote: nestea early game idra midgame stephano late game, and zerg god is born. Or just nestea early game, nestea midgame, nestea late game, and nestea the zerg god is born :D | ||
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
Poll: I really really want to suck ______'s cock. Stephano (14) Idra (4) 18 total votes Your vote: I really really want to suck ______'s cock. | ||
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JBanKs
United Kingdom617 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On November 07 2011 08:25 Horse...falcon wrote: So it looks like we can put the two kinds of people arguing here into a poll Poll: I really really want to suck ______'s cock. Stephano (14) Idra (4) 18 total votes Your vote: I really really want to suck ______'s cock. You're missing the option for both. | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
On November 07 2011 08:25 Horse...falcon wrote: So it looks like we can put the two kinds of people arguing here into a poll Poll: I really really want to suck ______'s cock. Stephano (14) Idra (4) 18 total votes Your vote: I really really want to suck ______'s cock. smells like ban hammer incoming :D | ||
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voy
Poland348 Posts
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
On November 07 2011 08:37 voy wrote: No Stephano, no Nerchio, no Curios! please edit the poll in the 1st post Not editing it because it's a 7 month thread and everything else is out of date anyway. Nestea's the best zerg in the world, thread is now pointless but someone keeps bumping it. | ||
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battlegrub
6 Posts
Good luck to him though. | ||
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
July is not close anymore IMO. Idra has to prove it in GSL first. | ||
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MagicMule19
82 Posts
I voted for idrA, but it is probably NesTea at the moment. | ||
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