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Xayoz
Estonia373 Posts
So the guy who posted the bow and the sword earlier also makes you sick? No. Most collector swords I've seen are rathe harmless and collected for mostly aesthetic value. If someone has a assortment of finely sharpened knives that he goes swinging around in he's back yard, then yes, that is equally sick. I don't think there is anything wrong with owning a sportsbow if you are actually a sportsman or a hunting rifle if you are a hunter. There is a big difference between that an owning a AK47 tho. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On March 23 2011 18:11 thoradycus wrote: Im not from USA so i wanna ask..are sniping rifles allowed to be bought/owned? Or heavy-duty guns like machine guns? No, not at all. Plenty of "dangerous" guns are allowed to be bought with the correct permits though. Also.. gun's aren't just for self defense people. Unless you keep your gun loaded, and nearby while you sleep(which is really irresponsible if you have children, or even stupid people near you).. I have a shotgun that I use for skeet and trap, and sporting clays. These are fun, even competitive for some shotgun sports. My personal favorite is sporting clays, which simulates "hunting" situations using clay pigeons... I just shoot for fun, my grandfather got me into it.. I haven't shot since he passed though. My shotgun is in a safe, and unloaded, the ammo is not with the gun. If someone came into my house, I'm hoping they don't have a gun, cause I'll probably use a golf club or something. | ||
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kazansky
Germany931 Posts
On March 23 2011 17:32 stevarius wrote: If I'm shooting them it's because they are a threat to my life. I'm not going to shoot an unarmed man invading my home unless he charges me. If I just shot him with no threat to my life, that'd get me in a world of shit with the law(in my state at least). 80% of all americans that get shot inside their own domestic get shot by their very own gun. Good luck. I was taught guns because I had to go to military service here. Weapons are made for killing. You can still find a technical art aspect of it, you can collect them, but then you should not have any ammunition at home in my eyes. If you think you're defending yourself, I hope for your own safety that fact 1 does never hit on you. ![[image loading]](http://www.trueswords.com/images/prod/c/TS-PWKENDO_540.jpg) The weapon I own, a real beauty. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On March 23 2011 18:11 thoradycus wrote: Im not from USA so i wanna ask..are sniping rifles allowed to be bought/owned? Or heavy-duty guns like machine guns? You're allowed to own rifles with telescopic sights. I don't think any state has bans on normal rifle telescopic sights, though military-grade night vision stuff is generally restricted or only sold to the military. I might be wrong on the last bit, though. The United States allows you to own automatic weapons that were made before...1986, I think. But the supply of weapons willing to be sold is very low, so automatic weapons can run in the tens of thousands of dollars to purchase. And there's the background checks and tax filings and everything. Plus a tax stamp or something on every auto-weapon you buy. States can legislate against weapons separately, though they can't ban guns outright. So it really depends where you live or, if you're rich enough, where you keep your guns. And good luck finding any "recent" automatic weapons on the market. Only going to get harder as the years go by...someone's probably going to overturn that 1986 provision on automatic weapons eventually*, but it might take a while. | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
On March 23 2011 18:15 Xayoz wrote: No. Most collector swords I've seen are rathe harmless and collected for mostly aesthetic value. If someone has a assortment of finely sharpened knives that he goes swinging around in he's back yard, then yes, that is equally sick. I don't think there is anything wrong with owning a sportsbow if you are actually a sportsman or a hunting rifle if you are a hunter. There is a big difference between that an owning a AK47 tho. So guns that are collected for aesthetic value are cool? ![[image loading]](http://www.weaponsblog.org/images/saddam_golden_ak-47_2.jpg) Anyways, to the Finn on the last page that posted the Baikals: do you have any experience with other types of target pistols? I'm looking to get one, but there isn't that big a market for Eastern European pistols around these parts. Mostly my choices are a Walther/Hammerli, a Benneli, or a Pardini. | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
(I´ll take a warning for that) User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Also lol @ the guy above me: ask for a warning, get a temp ban......get owned. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On March 23 2011 18:21 Kipsate wrote: Ah, since people here seem gun-happy I have been wondering, what are the limits on getting guns?I know that different states probably have different laws. But is it possible to actuall get things such as a M60 machine gun legally?Where do they draw the line?Is an RPG acceptable(oke that sounds a little stupid but you get the point).I was wondering where they draw the line(this not not flamebaiting I genuinly want to know) On March 23 2011 18:18 acker wrote: You're allowed to own rifles with telescopic sights. I don't think any state has bans on normal rifle telescopic sights, though military-grade night vision stuff is generally restricted or only sold to the military. I might be wrong on the last bit, though. The United States allows you to own automatic weapons that were made before...1986, I think. But the supply of weapons willing to be sold is very low, so automatic weapons can run in the tens of thousands of dollars to purchase. And there's the background checks and tax filings and everything. Plus a tax stamp or something on every auto-weapon you buy. States can legislate against weapons separately, though they can't ban guns outright. So it really depends where you live or, if you're rich enough, where you keep your guns. And good luck finding any "recent" automatic weapons on the market. Only going to get harder as the years go by...someone's probably going to overturn that 1986 provision on automatic weapons eventually*, but it might take a while. Regarding RPGs: you ARE allowed to purchase explosives...but it's horrendously expensive and, once again, requires a background check and even more licenses. For example, you could buy M203 HE grenades if you really wanted to, but each grenade would have to be registered as a Destructive Device, and slapped a 200$ tax on top of whatever you're paying for the grenade. I don't think any legitimate supplier of RPGs sells their products to anybody other than military/paramilitary organizations, so that point is moot. You CAN, however, legally own tanks and tank guns...as long as you own the land where you're going to drive that thing and shoot it. As far as I know, there are no road legal tanks. | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
On March 23 2011 18:21 Kipsate wrote: Ah, since people here seem gun-happy I have been wondering, what are the limits on getting guns?I know that different states probably have different laws. But is it possible to actuall get things such as a M60 machine gun legally?Where do they draw the line?Is an RPG acceptable(oke that sounds a little stupid but you get the point).I was wondering where they draw the line(this not not flamebaiting I genuinly want to know) Also lol @ the guy above me: ask for a warning, get a temp ban......get owned. Oddly enough, it's actually easier for someone to legally own an RPG than it is to own a fully auto rifle (at least in California). Not even joking. Politicians go crazy for fully autos, but explosives have managed to slip under the radar for the most part. | ||
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Myrdin
United Kingdom47 Posts
![[image loading]](http://dragon.hematite.com/M1Garand.jpg) But it would have to be a replica. | ||
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lagmaster
United States374 Posts
On March 23 2011 13:34 Dingo22 wrote: 1- Springfield 1911.45acp custom 2- Remington 12ga Wingmaster (pump) 3- Browning 20o/u Citori 4- Ruger 10/22 5- Ruger .270 6- Savage competition barrel accu-trigger .22 rifle 7- Armalite AR-15 .223cal 8- Smith and Wesson .38 special 9- Taurus .45colt Judge (shots .45colt and .410 rounds) 10- Winchester SuperX3 12ga (semi-auto) 11- Savage Arms 22-250 rifle - In the process of building a .300 Win-Mag. rifle for big game hunting I've been trying for a while to get my class 3 (automatic weapons/suppressor/silencer) license so I can get a P90 for target shooting and as a conversation piece. I've also sold a lot of my pistols (5 in the last year) because my gun-safe (Liberty-Franklin model) was getting full and I needed the money. Shooting is a great hobby with a safe and responsible following. We aren't the people who commit gun crimes. I actually have some similar guns to you. My dad, his brothers and I keep all of our guns in my dad's gun closet. All in all we have a good dozen rifles and shotguns. I only own a browning rifle and a remington shotgun. We also have 2 compound bows. I enjoy hunting pheasant with guns, but real men hunt the deer, elk and bear with bows. Remington 12 gauge + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://picturearchive.auctionarms.com/7426172628/9550487/acf141b.jpg) Remington 20 gauge (mine) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://internationalguns.com/images/Guns/Remington_IG/remington_1100_28g26i/remington_1100_28g26i_gun_l.jpg) Browning 30-06 (mine is black with a scope) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.rc-trucks.org/Browning-Automatic-Rifle-Sales.jpg) Pure Sex + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Compound_Bow_full.jpg/220px-Compound_Bow_full.jpg) I use my guns to fire at the gun range and occasionally to hunt. I used to use my bow at the archery range, but now I don't use it anymore. It just sits sexily in the gun closet. | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On March 23 2011 18:15 Xayoz wrote: No. Most collector swords I've seen are rathe harmless and collected for mostly aesthetic value. If someone has a assortment of finely sharpened knives that he goes swinging around in he's back yard, then yes, that is equally sick. I don't think there is anything wrong with owning a sportsbow if you are actually a sportsman or a hunting rifle if you are a hunter. There is a big difference between that an owning a AK47 tho. To add to that: It's easy to (accidently or intentionally) kill someone with a gun and the other person has no way to protect himself. Yes, there is usually a safety switch and what not, but one accidental discharge and someone has a hole in his chest. Opposed to that it's really hard to kill someone accidently with an exhibition or show fight sword (afaik other (actually sharp) swords require a weapons permit in germany, never cared) as they are really blunt, no sharp edges allowed (which is imho a good thing). Killing intentionally is possible as they are still made of iron and quite heavy, but you have to get really close with a really big weapon and it's still possible to defend against that. It is possible to accidently kill someone with a bow with a lot of bad luck (since usually the arrows are as blunt as the swords), killing someone intentionally is a lot harder (anyone who tried to shoot a target with a bow without a lot of practice should know that even at 5m distance hitting isn't that easy). That said, if people want to gather weapons and put them on the wall and never use them (so no ammo anywhere near them) it's totally fine by me. I don't know anyone who owns a gun, nor do i know anyone who would want to or sees a reason for them, but well... cultural difference. Maybe just my prejudice because in my region we have a lot of viking museums, viking festivals, etc. | ||
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Mythago
Finland33 Posts
On March 23 2011 18:18 number1gog wrote: Anyways, to the Finn on the last page that posted the Baikals: do you have any experience with other types of target pistols? I'm looking to get one, but there isn't that big a market for Eastern European pistols around these parts. Mostly my choices are a Walther/Hammerli, a Benneli, or a Pardini. Hmm, not much personal experience really, but maybe something like Walther P22 Target, or Benelli MP-95. Or if you're looking for a cheaper one, I think a Ruger Mk II with a custom grip works well, even if it's not a beautiful gun, kind of like the Margolini, works well even if it doesn't please the eye  | ||
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Mofisto
United Kingdom585 Posts
1/ AR15 (straight pull, not semi or auto, unfortunately) 2/ Mauser MO3 Extreme 3/ Precision Gun Works Timberwolf 4/ Daystate Red Ranger Limited Edition (air rifle) 5/ Feinwerkbau P70 (air rifle) 6/ 3 shotguns, no idea on make, they're my fathers not mine. Got his first gun at age 6 lol. 7/ Also had a variety of pistols until the laws came in after Dumblane. (My father did anyway, got them all taken from him, even my grandfathers ww2 service pistol) Whats annoying is that you cant even keep pistols at a club. Never shot a pistol (except air pistols) and always wanted to. Maybe when i finally move over to the states........ | ||
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Hans-Titan
Denmark1711 Posts
TBH I couldn't really see what I would need a gun for anyway. I probably wouldn't have the mentality to fire on against another human being if my house was robbed. Also getting robbed at gunpoint happens so rarely in Denmark, because hardly anyone has a gun. A few gangs have them, but they tend to shoot only at each other. | ||
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wordd
Australia190 Posts
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kaiz0ku
Greece289 Posts
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
On March 23 2011 18:47 Mythago wrote: Hmm, not much personal experience really, but maybe something like Walther P22 Target, or Benelli MP-95. Or if you're looking for a cheaper one, I think a Ruger Mk II with a custom grip works well, even if it's not a beautiful gun, kind of like the Margolini, works well even if it doesn't please the eye Yeah a lot of people recommend the Rugers, but the only one I ever shot had a TERRIBLE trigger. Maybe I just got my hands on a bad example... | ||
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