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On March 23 2011 17:21 esperanto wrote:
I am really glad there are not that many gun-owners in germany, if therer were, I'd be so scared that i'd maybe buy myself a gun. lol
I dont know if its seen as a real weapon, but I would like to start biathlon like my grandpa did when he was young. And therefor I gonna buy a Feinwerkbau LG Modell P 75-Biathlon.
Never seen anything else than a sports-related thing in weapons (just like a sports-bow or a darts-arrow). Dont understand why someone would buy a shotgun or an automatic-weapon.
Because we can.
<3 America.
Only problem is that automatic weapons are hella expensive. Shotguns, btw, are some of the best home defense weapons on the market... you practically can't miss.
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On March 23 2011 17:26 stevarius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 17:21 esperanto wrote:
I am really glad there are not that many gun-owners in germany, if therer were, I'd be so scared that i'd maybe buy myself a gun. lol
I dont know if its seen as a real weapon, but I would like to start biathlon like my grandpa did when he was young. And therefor I gonna buy a Feinwerkbau LG Modell P 75-Biathlon.
Never seen anything else than a sports-related thing in weapons (just like a sports-bow or a darts-arrow). Dont understand why someone would buy a shotgun or an automatic-weapon. Because we can. <3 America. Only problem is that automatic weapons are hella expensive. Shotguns, btw, are some of the best home defense weapons on the market... you practically can't miss.
Yes they are great if u want to obliterate someone in pieces.. I always thought that if im shooting someone for self def i would just want to hurt them not to kill them ;/ ( talking about a thief i.e )
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On March 23 2011 17:30 TheBJ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 17:26 stevarius wrote:On March 23 2011 17:21 esperanto wrote:
I am really glad there are not that many gun-owners in germany, if therer were, I'd be so scared that i'd maybe buy myself a gun. lol
I dont know if its seen as a real weapon, but I would like to start biathlon like my grandpa did when he was young. And therefor I gonna buy a Feinwerkbau LG Modell P 75-Biathlon.
Never seen anything else than a sports-related thing in weapons (just like a sports-bow or a darts-arrow). Dont understand why someone would buy a shotgun or an automatic-weapon. Because we can. <3 America. Only problem is that automatic weapons are hella expensive. Shotguns, btw, are some of the best home defense weapons on the market... you practically can't miss. Yes they are great if u want to obliterate someone in pieces.. I always thought that if im shooting someone for self def i would just want to hurt them not to kill them ;/ ( talking about a thief i.e )
If I'm shooting them it's because they are a threat to my life. I'm not going to shoot an unarmed man invading my home unless he charges me. If I just shot him with no threat to my life, that'd get me in a world of shit with the law(in my state at least).
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Don't own any guns atm. Want to get a M1911 Springfield Custom Professional or something when I can afford one. Anything that can fire 10,000+ rounds and still function well enough for target shooting, really, doesn't have to be that exact model.
Don't plan on buying many firearms. So might as well buy something that'll last forever.
...That, or some .22 or 9mm pistol that can fit a suppressor. So I don't go hard of hearing in the long run, that happens distressingly often to target shooters.
And definitely a cheap small-caliber rifle or carbine. Something with cheap ammunition so I don't go broke.
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I heard there are people out there with more than 11 Guitars, Golf Clubs, Fishing Rods or what ever accessoire you need for a hobby.
Indeed, however, no mater how well you reason it, I still cant help to feel sickened by seeing so many who take enjoyment in collecting something that is made for killing other people.
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On March 23 2011 17:41 Xayoz wrote:Show nested quote +I heard there are people out there with more than 11 Guitars, Golf Clubs, Fishing Rods or what ever accessoire you need for a hobby. Indeed, however, no mater how well you reason it, I still cant help to feel sickened by seeing so many who take enjoyment in collecting something that is made for killing other people.
Not a Gun Control/Debate thread ><. Want to see the guns, not a flamewar.
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On March 23 2011 17:41 Xayoz wrote:Show nested quote +I heard there are people out there with more than 11 Guitars, Golf Clubs, Fishing Rods or what ever accessoire you need for a hobby. Indeed, however, no mater how well you reason it, I still cant help to feel sickened by seeing so many who take enjoyment in collecting something that is made for killing other people.
Hunting rifles are made for sport, shotguns are made for sport.
People collect knives and use them for cooking. They can be used for killing, etc.
It's almost like an arms race where the enemy has them and if you don't, you're fucked. Not owning a weapon and being skilled to use it for self-defense in America can put you in a very bad situation. Shooting firearms for sport and hunting are very enjoyable. Having to use them for self-defense is not, but it is necessary if the situation occurs.
Please stop posting this kind of crap in this thread. It's about what guns you own/plan to own.
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On March 23 2011 17:41 Xayoz wrote:Show nested quote +I heard there are people out there with more than 11 Guitars, Golf Clubs, Fishing Rods or what ever accessoire you need for a hobby. Indeed, however, no mater how well you reason it, I still cant help to feel sickened by seeing so many who take enjoyment in collecting something that is made for killing other people.
So the guy who posted the bow and the sword earlier also makes you sick?
Edit: I suppose I might as well add something more constructive than a one line quip: People tend to imbue guns with a type of malice that other historical weapons are never given. Why is it that the Japanese Katana can be so revered, with certain examples being core family heirlooms, while firearms are regarded as nothing more than instruments of murder?
As human beings we have a darkness. Our history books that are filled with war are proof enough of that. Firearms are just the latest in a long line of tools we use to hurt each other.
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Ah! Just thought of a gun that I want, but will probably never have:
![[image loading]](http://www.remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/usp/match/usp45m.gif)
H&K UPS Match! That or the USP Tactical. Or any USP.
I just want a USP!
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On March 23 2011 17:32 stevarius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 17:30 TheBJ wrote:On March 23 2011 17:26 stevarius wrote:On March 23 2011 17:21 esperanto wrote:
I am really glad there are not that many gun-owners in germany, if therer were, I'd be so scared that i'd maybe buy myself a gun. lol
I dont know if its seen as a real weapon, but I would like to start biathlon like my grandpa did when he was young. And therefor I gonna buy a Feinwerkbau LG Modell P 75-Biathlon.
Never seen anything else than a sports-related thing in weapons (just like a sports-bow or a darts-arrow). Dont understand why someone would buy a shotgun or an automatic-weapon. Because we can. <3 America. Only problem is that automatic weapons are hella expensive. Shotguns, btw, are some of the best home defense weapons on the market... you practically can't miss. Yes they are great if u want to obliterate someone in pieces.. I always thought that if im shooting someone for self def i would just want to hurt them not to kill them ;/ ( talking about a thief i.e ) If I'm shooting them it's because they are a threat to my life. I'm not going to shoot an unarmed man invading my home unless he charges me. If I just shot him with no threat to my life, that'd get me in a world of shit with the law(in my state at least).
While it is true its hard to miss with a shotgun, rifles should not be discounted from the home defense. I live in the middle of no where, and only live with my wife. If I see some one break in, I dont even need to open the door to fire on some one. My AK-74 has rounds made to pierce body armor, it would fly though walls like butter. If you see the door handle jiggle, 4-6 shots should do the trick. Also if you have seen those pictures of of watermelons exploding, just think what it does to your insides!
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i do not own a gun and never will. Having a gun on you will always tempt you to use it like in a fight or road rage etc... i think the situation when you trully need a gun, e.g. someone wants to kill you are too rare to justify such an investment.
edit: maybe i would consider owning one i lived in a remote place with high crime rate
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On March 23 2011 17:41 Xayoz wrote:Show nested quote +I heard there are people out there with more than 11 Guitars, Golf Clubs, Fishing Rods or what ever accessoire you need for a hobby. Indeed, however, no mater how well you reason it, I still cant help to feel sickened by seeing so many who take enjoyment in collecting something that is made for killing other people.
I don't like guns myself and would never own one.
Despite that, it's perfectly reasonable to own and maintain weapons and fire them at shooting ranges. It's a hobby, and I have friends who are into it.
It may be difficult to understand, but many hobbies are.
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Just as this is not a gun control thread I would appreciate it if you don't turn it into a home defense thread either. It's just as derailing.
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On March 23 2011 13:48 samuraibael wrote:
Ill take a ban for being fucking sickened by this thread.
User was temp banned for this post.
i'll too. I'm lurking this forum for few months now and this is the most retardet fucked up bullshit post i've seen on this board. in my world this thread would be deleted/locked. i've nothing against americans killing/planning to kill themselfes but please keep it to yourself.
User was temp banned for this post.
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You guys are like little ants to me.
![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Tj__oCLmuy0/TWXfExq9cbI/AAAAAAAAFos/FgEs2PF4EUk/s320/gatlin%2Bminigun_original.jpg)
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On March 23 2011 17:21 esperanto wrote:
I dont know if its seen as a real weapon, but I would like to start biathlon like my grandpa did when he was young. And therefor I gonna buy a Feinwerkbau LG Modell P 75-Biathlon.
Never seen anything else than a sports-related thing in weapons (just like a sports-bow or a darts-arrow). Dont understand why someone would buy a shotgun or an automatic-weapon.
I enjoy watching the biathlon during the Olympics and from my understanding they have really watered down the shooting competitions. If this trend continues, the biathlon may find itself being phased out in favor of political correctness.
On March 23 2011 17:41 Xayoz wrote:Show nested quote +I heard there are people out there with more than 11 Guitars, Golf Clubs, Fishing Rods or what ever accessoire you need for a hobby. Indeed, however, no mater how well you reason it, I still cant help to feel sickened by seeing so many who take enjoyment in collecting something that is made for killing other people.
Do you hold the same opinion of sword collectors?
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On March 23 2011 18:07 Trang wrote:You guys are like little ants to me.
Would love to see a portable minigun chambered in .22 LR just for the lulz.
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Im not from USA so i wanna ask..are sniping rifles allowed to be bought/owned? Or heavy-duty guns like machine guns?
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I don't actually own any guns, but my father was the chairman of a local shooting club when I was younger. I have used a variety of pistols and rifles for target shooting, and I grew up learning how to handle guns safely. The safety training seems to have worked, because later on when I was doing military service, I noticed the conditioning against pointing a firearm at another human being made the combat drills a bit awkward at first 
Anyway, here's some of the guns I've used (some google image searches):
http://images.bradspictures.com/bpictures/b/baikal_mcm-33677.jpg
Baikal "Margolin" .22 LR, quite cheap and a decent pistol for target shooting. As a curiosity, the pistol's designer was blind.
http://www.bengtsforspsk.se/grafikk/Bajkal_IJ35.jpg
Another russian one.. a sharpshooting pistol .22 Short, has barely noticable recoil.
I'll skip over the 9mm pistols and go straight to my favourite handgun:
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6612/peacekeeper6de.jpg
Colt Peacekeeper .357 Magnum with black finish and a rubber grip. Damned fun for outdoors target range. Not exactly a a gun made for target shooting, but the long barrel means it's rather accurate nonetheless, makes a group the size of a palm from 100 meters.
And being Finnish, I just couldn't post without mentioning this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rk_62
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/RK_62_76.jpg
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On March 23 2011 18:11 thoradycus wrote:
Im not from USA so i wanna ask..are sniping rifles allowed to be bought/owned? Or heavy-duty guns like machine guns?
Most "sniper rifles" are re-purposed hunting rifles. Sure nowadays you're starting to see militaries adopt purpose-build rifles, but any long rifle with a good set of optics can be used by a "sniper."
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