Hate for not caring about religion. - Page 6

On March 17 2011 19:10 wherebugsgo wrote:


What if he was black and she said, "I'm glad you ******* are finding jobs these days."?

It might not be intended to offend, but his reaction was fine.




Except he's right.

Lots of religious people in the U.S. will take offense if some Muslim were to come up to them and say "Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps." It's essentially the equivalent of what she said, but because that's not the "norm" here it wouldn't fly.

On March 17 2011 21:28 pOlt wrote:
Have to add to my previous post that OP shoudn't post these kind of stuff here on TL. Reaction from users pretty much predictable on these things. (cuz they are foreigners + mostly "west style").
Well once again its not like you were right either.

religion will never, EVER make sense to people with actual self aware questioning minds. I even got to live in Utah....if you think regular Christians care about their religion...you have never met a Mormon family.

On March 17 2011 20:12 Dismantlethethroat wrote:


Noone says that dude. Really they don't.

On March 17 2011 21:22 Risen wrote:


Allow me to give you a correct analogy (your use of hyperbole in conjunction with analogy is misleading)

Man walks up to the counter and says Praise Allah for a worker such as yourself.
I say, "hmph"
customer takes offense that you would belittle the message behind his compliment

As to your second point, that's because your example is giving a compliment in a non-english language. If he said the same exact thing in english "God is great, God willing more young people like you will follow in your footsteps" I don't know anyone who would take offense to that. Well, I don't know anyone in real life who would, but on the internet I just found my first one!

Edit: Can I also point out that by saying mhmm, followed by I don't care about religion instead of just a simple mhmm, thank you you're broadcasting your own beliefs. Something you simply HATE christians doing (clearly). Take some time to be introspective and think about this. I understand it's the internet and you won't admit you're wrong, I know because I wouldn't either, but at least in real life reflect on this and try to become the person you want to be. This message brought to you by an atheist who keeps it to themselves and knows how to take a compliment

Edit 2: Dropped the offensive word from my quote. You should be ashamed for trying to make such a wild off-the-mark analogy comparing racial bigotry to a gentle religious tap (if you want to call a compliment that has a religious origin that)

Allow me to give you a correct analogy (your use of hyperbole in conjunction with analogy is misleading)

Man walks up to the counter and says Praise Allah for a worker such as yourself.
I say, "hmph"
customer takes offense that you would belittle the message behind his compliment

On March 17 2011 22:34 wherebugsgo wrote:


No one says that here. EXACTLY.

But in Muslim countries they say it all the time. Do you understand my point now?

On March 17 2011 22:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol, this is funny.

First of all, it's not hyperbole. No, the analogy with respect to race isn't very accurate, but it's similar. The lady in the OP doesn't consider for a minute that the guy doesn't share her religious beliefs. She's being just as inconsiderate as the guy in his response, yet no one notices this because it's "normal" to say "God bless" here in the U.S. If it weren't "normal" then obviously it wouldn't be acceptable! This is why I chose to bring in the racial comment, and the comment involving Allah.

As for the language difference, that's bs. Anyone with half a brain knows that "Allah" is synonymous with "God." Thus, the only difference between the two statements would be that one is broadcasting a Christian influence and the other a Muslim one. In fact, coming from a Muslim background many of my cousins say this to me routinely, so yes, people do say those kinds of things (with a Muslim influence, as opposed to Christian). And they say it in English, nonetheless. It's just much rarer because 80% of the country isn't Muslim, it's Christian.

"Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps."

Lastly, it wasn't bigoted 30 years ago to call someone "nigger." If you consider it from this perspective, that, hey, this woman wasn't aware that her use of the term "nigger" (or, in this case, her use of the term "God bless you") could be perceived as offensive, then of course by her perspective she means no harm, but the end result is the same. The difference is that we are in two different social norms right now. In Europe you would never hear anyone say what she said (or at least, extremely rarely) and likewise in both places right now you wouldn't hear anyone use the term "nigger." It's a matter of societal values, and the U.S. honestly just isn't there yet.

I just wanted to add that 90% of American Christians would take offense to this.

I would warrant at least half of them would take offense to the mere presence of a Muslim in the store, let alone his or her speech.

On March 17 2011 23:23 Haemonculus wrote:


However I also agree with a lot of the other posters in this thread. Simply because Christianity happens to be the majority religion here doesn't mean peolpe should be expected to listen to random shpeils if they don't want to.

On March 17 2011 23:23 Haemonculus wrote:
Sure the OP over-reacted a bit, but it's still kind of annoying when people assume that their own religious beliefs are the norm. Obviously simply saying "god bless you" isn't a big deal, so yeah I'm inclined to think that the obvious reaction should have been to simply smile and nod, regardless of your personal beliefs.

I had a somewhat similar occurance last weekend. My boyfriend and I were out getting breakfast together. We're holding hands across the table, idly chatting and waiting for our food to arrive. There's an old man at another table who keeps staring at us. I thought he was kind of weird, but didn't think much of it. Anyway after he gets his check he stops by the table and says "I just need to say how nice it is to see a young couple like yourselves. I was wonderinf how you were going to eat holding hands like that!" We both thought this was really sweet, and wished the old man a nice day as he left. Random compliment from a stranger, how nice, right? Put me in a good mood.

About 3 minutes later he comes back, (having already left the restaurant). "Sorry, I just had a few more things to say." He kneels down in front of our table. "You know that god created us all differently, and has a special plan for each of us, right? He sent his only son to die for your sins... [...]" etc etc etc. We both smiled and nodded and feigned interest through a little 5 minute speech about Jebus and all that jazz. I briefly considered explaining to him that I had quite different spiritual beliefs, and that quite frankly I was sick of hearing this shit, but we stayed polite and just smiled and nodded occasionally. He seemed a bit bummed, as our frustration having our meal interrupted for such a speech was probably somewhat noticable. But we wished him a pleasant day again, and he took off, this time for good. Surely I could have told him off, but his intentions were good, so I bit the bullet and let him talk.

However I also agree with a lot of the other posters in this thread. Simply because Christianity happens to be the majority religion here doesn't mean peolpe should be expected to listen to random shpeils if they don't want to. A Muslim pulling a similar stunt would have 100% gotten a negative reaction in 95% of this country. If I went around wishing people a blessed Imbolc, I'd get weird looks too. I can sympathize with the OP if this sort of thing happens a lot, but for the most part, it's best to just suck it up and be polite.

On March 18 2011 00:34 darmousseh wrote:
god bless you, you're a mighty fine boy playing starcraft at such a young age.

On March 18 2011 00:34 darmousseh wrote:
god bless you, you're a mighty fine boy playing starcraft at such a young age.