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Wtf... So today I was at my job working. I'm a cashier so I have to talk quite a bit while I work.
So this middle aged lady comes with who I assume is her husband and orders her food. As she was about to leave she said "god bless you, you're a mighty fine boy working at such a young age."
I replied with a "mhmm" and the lady lashed out at me. She said "what's the matter?"
Okay, lets go back a bit before I go on. I don't care about religion, being an atheist, or any of that. I don't really care when I die and where I go as long as I can have kids and die happy.
Anyways, I proceeded to tell her that I don't care about religion, making it short as possible because I don't really want to know her opinion and thoughts about it. She told me I should go to hell.. WTF? and that I should be ashamed of myself.
Does anyone else get this type of shit?
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Simple thing is to just shrug it off and be polite, instead of pulling the "mhmm". I understand how it could get under your skin, but I'd assume when you're working getting into a theological discussion isn't really the best idea. It sucks that she went off like that, and it'd probably piss me off too, but you had the power to avoid that point.
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I'm an agnostic myself and if someone said that to me i would just say thanks and let them go on there merry way. No need to instigate.
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Australia326 Posts
She gave you a bloody compliment, just take it.
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religion will never, EVER make sense to people with actual self aware questioning minds. I even got to live in Utah....if you think regular Christians care about their religion...you have never met a Mormon family.
I'd just laugh and forget, remember ignorance is bliss right?
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When an atheist voices his/her view on religion, the atheist is stomping on the religious person's freedom of religion.
When a religious person voices his/her view on religion, he/she is practicing his/her freedom of religion and freedom of expression.
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What's with your attitude? A nice lady gives you a compliment and you just shrug it off like that? Just because you don't believe in the same things as her gives you no right to disrespect her like that.
And if you don't think "mhmm" is a disrespectful response, that's a whole nother story.
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when people say things like that to you, the appropriate response is "thank you!"
don't be a dick
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God bless you sir. Sounds like one... expressionistic lady. Just smile and wish her a good day and you won't have to deal with these conflicts.
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Middle-aged, religious women are not exactly the smartest breed of human
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I have no reason to give my personal opinions to customers. If my customers talk about jesus, then praise jesus and the holy spirit, amen. If my customers talk about being hungry for ramadan, then praise allah, and the prophet mohommed, allahu akbar. I do not lead a friend-filled existence.
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Wow that is rude of you just to say mhmm no wonder she lashed out at you. Why wouldn't you want God to bless you.
I don't care about religion, being an atheist, or any of that. I don't really care when I die and where I go as long as I can have kids and die happy.
being an atheist, or any of that? I'm sorry that doesn't make sense.
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Honestly there are worse things that someone could say than "god bless you".
If all religious people do were telling god to bless people I'd be a lot less worried about the world.
Just deal with it. You wouldn't be this annoyed if she was a homeopath.
I don't care about religion, being an atheist, or any of that. I don't really care when I die and where I go as long as I can have kids and die happy.
Haha, missed this line. If you don't care, let other people care, won't you?
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Just smile, say thank you, and move on. She was trying to be nice.
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On March 17 2011 13:54 Alexson wrote:
Anyways, I proceeded to tell her that I don't care about religion, making it short as possible because I don't really want to know her opinion and thoughts about it. She told me I should go to hell.. WTF? and that I should be ashamed of myself.
Does anyone else get this type of shit?
I don't think she wanted to know your opinion and thoughts about religion either, tbh.
Seriously, though, just say thank you. It's part of good customer service--you're there to be a cashier, not to insinuate argument.
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When I worked as a cashier and received any religious comments, I feigned interest and depending on the circumstance also humored them by pretending I was religious as well. As an atheist, I don't have a problem with that, as I understand that some people take their religion very seriously and I would rather avoid confrontation.
On topic of your story, however, you were also rude to the lady. Although I think she should respect that maybe you don't want her God's blessings, "mhmm" is definitely disrespectful.
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You should have been nicer. It's never good to be rude to people no matter what they believe in.
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Religion aside, that was quite the compliment she gave you. 'Mhmm' seems inconsiderate and rude, and could be easily taken as a 'Yeah whatever'. Thanking her simply would have been the appropriate and reasonable response. Heck, the religious aspect of this is hardly a big deal at all, for either side.
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You should have just smiled nicely and said thank you, then moved on to your next customer.
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She just said "God Bless you." Why did you have to react that way? You could've just said thanks.
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She could have at least just went on with her day.. she didn't have to say she hopes I burn in hell.... nobody told me that EVER, not even on the damn internet.
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"God bless you" and "go to hell" can be far removed from their religious context, the world isn't out to get you.
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Calgary25969 Posts
You were a dick. This didn't really have much to do with religion.
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the way i see it my friend: she gave u a compliment, and you returned the favor by being a dick ...
i'm not a religious man myself, but if someone ever says that to me, i'd just kindly reply "thank you" at the very least ...
i'm pretty pissed when people keep bringing religion up and try to shove it down my throat, but people who try so hard to tell the world that they're not religious annoy me even more :/
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Golden rule: when religion or politics are introduced, step out.
That counts for little old ladies too.
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Lol, wtf? Someone gives you a compliment on your work ethic and happens to use a religiously-based expression, and you take it as a moment to put yourself on a soapbox about your lack of religiosity?
Do you go off on that tangent whenever someone says "Bless you" after a sneeze, too?
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... how old are you that you don't understand what happened here and why
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A lady compliments you, you give a meek response instead of saying thank you, and then your proceed to basically tell her off...and then YOU get affronted when she gets upset? She barely even mentioned religion, she was merely complimenting your character... (ironic in retrospect...)
That's incredibly rude, man.
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On March 17 2011 13:54 Alexson wrote:
Wtf... So today I was at my job working. I'm a cashier so I have to talk quite a bit while I work.
So this middle aged lady comes with who I assume is her husband and orders her food. As she was about to leave she said "god bless you, you're a mighty fine boy working at such a young age."
I replied with a "mhmm" and the lady lashed out at me. She said "what's the matter?"
Okay, lets go back a bit before I go on. I don't care about religion, being an atheist, or any of that. I don't really care when I die and where I go as long as I can have kids and die happy.
Anyways, I proceeded to tell her that I don't care about religion, making it short as possible because I don't really want to know her opinion and thoughts about it. She told me I should go to hell.. WTF? and that I should be ashamed of myself.
Does anyone else get this type of shit?
Say "Thank you" and move on to the next customer. It's your job as a cashier to make customers happy, not to discuss religion.
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On March 17 2011 14:20 Alexson wrote:
She could have at least just went on with her day.. she didn't have to say she hopes I burn in hell.... nobody told me that EVER, not even on the damn internet.
You didn't have to say what you said either.
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On March 17 2011 14:20 Alexson wrote:
She could have at least just went on with her day.. she didn't have to say she hopes I burn in hell.... nobody told me that EVER, not even on the damn internet.
She told you to go to hell because you are an asshole not because you are an atheist.
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On March 17 2011 14:21 Chill wrote:
You were a dick. This didn't really have much to do with religion.
Yup, its true. If I had said "by the spirit of the moon! you a quite a good kid!" theres no reason to say anything but "thank you" and smile.
Don't dismiss someone who is trying to compliment you...
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On March 17 2011 14:00 So no fek wrote:
Simple thing is to just shrug it off and be polite, instead of pulling the "mhmm". I understand how it could get under your skin, but I'd assume when you're working getting into a theological discussion isn't really the best idea. It sucks that she went off like that, and it'd probably piss me off too, but you had the power to avoid that point.
I'm going to continue the massively long train of people that basically agree with this.
I'm not exactly a huge believer either, but that doesn't mean that I have to automatically disdain or ignore everything about religion. If someone says that I'm blessed or something I know that, in their eyes, they're giving me a compliment, and that's nice. There are good people who are Atheists and good people who are Christian: I don't discriminate between them.
Stand up for your beliefs, but don't push them all over the place. It's what Atheists have long accused Christians of when some of them have started doing the same. Just live your life and be happy.
Note that this turned into a mini-rant; it wasn't fully directed at you since what you did wasn't awful or anything, just slightly rude.
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On March 17 2011 14:25 matjlav wrote:
Lol, wtf? Someone gives you a compliment on your work ethic and happens to use a religiously-based expression, and you take it as a moment to put yourself on a soapbox about your lack of religiosity?
Do you go off on that tangent whenever someone says "Bless you" after a sneeze, too?
On March 17 2011 14:23 nayumi wrote:
the way i see it my friend: she gave u a compliment, and you returned the favor by being a dick ...
i'm not a religious man myself, but if someone ever says that to me, i'd just kindly reply "thank you" at the very least ...
i'm pretty pissed when people keep bringing religion up and try to shove it down my throat, but people who try so hard to tell the world that they're not religious annoy me even more :/
all I said was "mhmm." Nothing more nothing less. I don't get why she can't just go on with her day after that. I didn't try to tell the world I don't give a shit either, she literally asked me.
On March 17 2011 14:31 relyt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:20 Alexson wrote:
She could have at least just went on with her day.. she didn't have to say she hopes I burn in hell.... nobody told me that EVER, not even on the damn internet. She told you to go to hell because you are an asshole not because you are an atheist.
so just saying "mhmm" makes me an asshole? okay dave.
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I'm glad most of the people in this thread had the same response I did.
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On March 17 2011 14:32 Alexson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:25 matjlav wrote:
Lol, wtf? Someone gives you a compliment on your work ethic and happens to use a religiously-based expression, and you take it as a moment to put yourself on a soapbox about your lack of religiosity?
Do you go off on that tangent whenever someone says "Bless you" after a sneeze, too? Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:23 nayumi wrote:
the way i see it my friend: she gave u a compliment, and you returned the favor by being a dick ...
i'm not a religious man myself, but if someone ever says that to me, i'd just kindly reply "thank you" at the very least ...
i'm pretty pissed when people keep bringing religion up and try to shove it down my throat, but people who try so hard to tell the world that they're not religious annoy me even more :/ all I said was "mhmm." Nothing more nothing less. I don't get why she can't just go on with her day after that. I didn't try to tell the world I don't give a shit either, she literally asked me. Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:31 relyt wrote:On March 17 2011 14:20 Alexson wrote:
She could have at least just went on with her day.. she didn't have to say she hopes I burn in hell.... nobody told me that EVER, not even on the damn internet. She told you to go to hell because you are an asshole not because you are an atheist. so just saying "mhmm" makes me an asshole? okay dave.
The way you are responding now basically proves everything that has been said about your actions.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On March 17 2011 14:32 Alexson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:25 matjlav wrote:
Lol, wtf? Someone gives you a compliment on your work ethic and happens to use a religiously-based expression, and you take it as a moment to put yourself on a soapbox about your lack of religiosity?
Do you go off on that tangent whenever someone says "Bless you" after a sneeze, too? Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:23 nayumi wrote:
the way i see it my friend: she gave u a compliment, and you returned the favor by being a dick ...
i'm not a religious man myself, but if someone ever says that to me, i'd just kindly reply "thank you" at the very least ...
i'm pretty pissed when people keep bringing religion up and try to shove it down my throat, but people who try so hard to tell the world that they're not religious annoy me even more :/ all I said was "mhmm." Nothing more nothing less. I don't get why she can't just go on with her day after that. I didn't try to tell the world I don't give a shit either, she literally asked me. Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:31 relyt wrote:On March 17 2011 14:20 Alexson wrote:
She could have at least just went on with her day.. she didn't have to say she hopes I burn in hell.... nobody told me that EVER, not even on the damn internet. She told you to go to hell because you are an asshole not because you are an atheist. so just saying "mhmm" makes me an asshole? okay dave.
Yeah, it does make you an asshole. If you don't understand that, which apparently you don't, then you must be young and/or ignorant, which apparently you are.
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You're an atheist man -- you know there is no god, yet you let this person mention some mythical super hero and let her get away with telling you to burn in some fictional place? You had to feel that the lady was delusional, yet you didn't even try to help her? I'm surprised you didn't try to mug her, too. In seriousness, how hard is it to say "thanks"? They have a "the customer is always right" mentality for a reason. Being a dick for no reason doesn't help anyone.
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Asking "what's the matter?" is not lashing out. Why are you presuming it's about religion? Seems to me that she was confused because she complimented you and you were obviously way too cool to accept a compliment from *gasp* a religious person (ew!!) You have as much reason to presume she was reacting to your apparent atheism as to the colour of your skin.
srsly, l2communicationz
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As much as I hate religion, you acted like that over a simple God Bless? That was overreacting.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Well, he's probably around 16. He's just a very misguided teenager. It's our job to help him realize his wrongdoings.
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On March 17 2011 14:45 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Asking "what's the matter?" is not lashing out. Why are you presuming it's about religion? Seems to me that she was confused because she complimented you and you were obviously way too cool to accept a compliment from *gasp* a religious person (ew!!) You have as much reason to presume she was reacting to your apparent atheism as to the colour of your skin.
srsly, l2communicationz
lol you didn't even hear how her voice sounded.. it sounded like she wanted to kill me
That was my friend trying to troll.
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One opinion in a situation doesn't always directly show how they'll act in another.
In any case, I don't care much for religion myself either, and when people say those type of things I say thanks and move on. I normally don't notice.
But I do find it incredibly rude when people say things like "go to hell" because I tell them i'm not interested. It's not like I don't know anything about it or hate it, I just have no interest in something without a more substantial basis. I have my beliefs and i'm alright with that.
I spent a lot of my high school reading about different religions, checking into different things, because faith is important, whether it's in a God or in yourself.
But I don't think you should have said that it doesn't matter to you. What is trash to one person is the world to another, and they will defend it as they see fit. Although it is obvious you don't care for it, you could have just said thanks, and moved on.
I had an ex before who would jump down my throat when I told him I wasn't interested in Christianity or in anything of the sort. But he was an overdramatic fool. :3
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I dunno bout everyone else but I used to work at a gas station and had this one guy come in EVERY DAY and would always leave the store with a praise jesus for your life etc. etc. and when you hear that EVERY DAY it gets grating so I get where you are comin from Alexson.
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boy do i know all about it. Being an atheist myself with a VERY religious fiance.
Truth is, i dont believe in a higher power or heaven and hell or whatever religious people may believe, but just as i respect the fact that they do.
My girlfriend for example loves to say 'its a sign from jesus he is looking after you' when things go right and 'its all part of gods plan for you things will get better' when things go wrong. Truth be told, i think it hypocritical bullshit but the fact remains, she doesnt, and nothing gives me the right to shut her down when she says things that are meant to be encouraging.
I believe in facts.
She has faith.
To be quite honest having faith ir a much better quality to have and i would probably still marry her in a church in front of a priest without hesitation.
Simple reason being that her religious beliefs are much less of an inconvenience to me that mine are to her.
Now for fuck sake, that lady paid you a compliment. If it was so much of an inconvenience to say thank you, have a nice day because you dont believe in a deity, you really are some kind of selfish. Cashier isnt the right job for you.
Its because of intolerent shit like that, that religious wars have been fought. Why cant you just learn to accept what people believe?
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Anyone who's calling me an asshole really needs to be put into the situation to honestly see how I feel.
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just say thank you instead of "mmhmm"... it's like someone saying "bless you" after you sneeze. Even if some people still actually mean it in the religious sense like this lady, pretty much all religious connotation that it's associated with is out the window... it's just a courtesy convention.
it does seem this lady overreacted though... maybe not if you spoke to her in a condescending manner but if you didn't then whatever, ignore her and move on.
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On March 17 2011 15:16 Alexson wrote:
Anyone who's calling me an asshole really needs to be put into the situation to honestly see how I feel.
So, how do you honestly feel about this situation, then?
When she said god bless you or whatever else, what did you think? Honestly, what did you think?
Just because you're not getting the sympathy you want, or getting whatever it is you want from this blog post.. :/
You handled things poorly. Just deal with it and move on. Take note.
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On March 17 2011 15:16 Alexson wrote:
Anyone who's calling me an asshole really needs to be put into the situation to honestly see how I feel.
How you (!!!) feel?
You rejected a compliment to your character by not even thanking your -customer-, then try to act the victim lol? If someone compliments you and you give a noncommittal response, most normal people are going to ask if you're alright. Then, instead of saying something like "oh thanks, come again!", you start on about your own views on religion?
Religion is nothing but a minor component in this, the entire situation could (and should) have been avoided by your minding your own business and remembering that you are an employee of a company, which is not a role in which you should be disagreeing with a customer (paying customer, I might add), nor should you be so rude to a woman who pays you a compliment on your character.
Tbh I'm really disappointed that you can't see how far you are in the wrong here...I've never liked the whole age argument and won't use it here, but 
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On March 17 2011 15:23 Raeleigh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:16 Alexson wrote:
Anyone who's calling me an asshole really needs to be put into the situation to honestly see how I feel. So, how do you honestly feel about this situation, then? When she said god bless you or whatever else, what did you think? Honestly, what did you think? Just because you're not getting the sympathy you want, or getting whatever it is you want from this blog post.. :/ You handled things poorly. Just deal with it and move on. Take note.
He thought he was gonna die... apparently =.=
On March 17 2011 15:02 Alexson wrote:
it sounded like she wanted to kill me
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Nothing to do with religion -_-
TL:DR
Lady: Have a nice day!
OP: Don't tell me what to do!
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Well, my mother everyday says to me "God Bless You" and I'm not lashing at her for that (and I don't have her same religious beliefs). What's the deal people? Just as you can meet religious morons you can meet atheist morons too. Being a bit gentle and decent doesn't hurt anyone and sure, the lady was really rude at the end but you too were a bit rude.
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On March 17 2011 15:16 Alexson wrote:
Anyone who's calling me an asshole really needs to be put into the situation to honestly see how I feel.
what you arent getting is that, the old lady had respect for you and would have walked away happy if you had said thank you and not mmhm.
Take religion out of the story... You go to somewhere, get good service, pay the person a thoughtful compliment, and he responds with 'meh whatever' (because thats basically what you did). Then when you ask that guy wtf? He makes an attack at your character however unintentional and basically tells you that your compliment means jackshit because you have stupid beliefs. How would you react?
I can almost guarentee you that lady was thinking that, even though you didnt mean it that way
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Who gives a shit if you don't believe in religion.
Just nod, say thank you and move on.
It's not a question of religion, it's her blessing you with her appreciation and then you don't give the decency to properly acknowledge it.
Your arrogance and need to portray your dislike or disinterest in religion is astoundingly childish. Why don't you consider the whole scene and not look for others to sympathize and agree with you.
Let me reiterate the story for you :3 : "Thank you kind young sir for your great service, and God bless you that you still care for the customers and make sure all is well while they visit your store/service"
"DONT SPREAD YOUR CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA ALL OVER ME YOU HAG, BARK BARK BARK, IM AN ATHEIST IM GOING TO DISREGARD YOUR COMPLIMENT BECAUSE IT CAME IN A FORM I DONT PERSONALLY BELIEVE IN BARK BARK BARK
On March 17 2011 15:02 Alexson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:45 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Asking "what's the matter?" is not lashing out. Why are you presuming it's about religion? Seems to me that she was confused because she complimented you and you were obviously way too cool to accept a compliment from *gasp* a religious person (ew!!) You have as much reason to presume she was reacting to your apparent atheism as to the colour of your skin.
srsly, l2communicationz lol you didn't even hear how her voice sounded.. it sounded like she wanted to kill me That was my friend trying to troll.
On March 14 2011 08:02 Alexson wrote:
I'd be raping girls, killing people brutally (people I hate), and doing all the drugs I can.
I'm being serious.
Your friend sounds srs.
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On March 17 2011 15:16 Alexson wrote:
Anyone who's calling me an asshole really needs to be put into the situation to honestly see how I feel.
A good number of the people responding here are atheists. I'm sure every one of them has heard someone say "god bless you" or "thank god for x" or whatever, so I don't think you can play this off as some sort of unique experience.
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Whenever I sneeze and someone says "God bless you" , I slap them silly and try to arch my disagreement with their polite incentive to perpetuate a catholic faith onto me.
I totally understand man.
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On March 17 2011 13:54 Alexson wrote:
Anyways, I proceeded to tell her that I don't care about religion, making it short as possible because I don't really want to know her opinion and thoughts about it.
You don't just say your opinion and then expect for them to stay quiet. Religious care more about their religion than atheists care about being atheist. Well at least you ought to expect them too. Because if God does exist than it is the most important thing there is, but if he does not exist and you believe that to be true, than you should not care about the fact that he doesn't exist.
I mean if God doesn't exist how can you even be mad at this Lady? It is like your imposing some sort of morality on her that she "ought" to live up to. If God does not exist than morality is relative.
If your an atheist you have to accept all the philosophies that it demands. If your not willing to accept those then you might want to give the whole thing another look.
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On March 17 2011 15:45 Torte de Lini wrote:Who gives a shit if you don't believe in religion. Just nod, say thank you and move on. It's not a question of religion, it's her blessing you with her appreciation and then you don't give the decency to properly acknowledge it. Your arrogance and need to portray your dislike or disinterest in religion is astoundingly childish. Why don't you consider the whole scene and not look for others to sympathize and agree with you. Let me reiterate the story for you :3 : "Thank you kind young sir for your great service, and God bless you that you still care for the customers and make sure all is well while they visit your store/service" " DONT SPREAD YOUR CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA ALL OVER ME YOU HAG, BARK BARK BARK, IM AN ATHEIST IM GOING TO DISREGARD YOUR COMPLIMENT BECAUSE IT CAME IN A FORM I DONT PERSONALLY BELIEVE IN BARK BARK BARKShow nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:02 Alexson wrote:On March 17 2011 14:45 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Asking "what's the matter?" is not lashing out. Why are you presuming it's about religion? Seems to me that she was confused because she complimented you and you were obviously way too cool to accept a compliment from *gasp* a religious person (ew!!) You have as much reason to presume she was reacting to your apparent atheism as to the colour of your skin.
srsly, l2communicationz lol you didn't even hear how her voice sounded.. it sounded like she wanted to kill me That was my friend trying to troll. Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 08:02 Alexson wrote:
I'd be raping girls, killing people brutally (people I hate), and doing all the drugs I can.
I'm being serious. Your friend sounds srs.
dude all I was telling her was I don't care.
I didn't say why I don't care, I didn't try to convert her or anything, I just said I don't care.
nice reply david
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On March 17 2011 15:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Whenever I sneeze and someone says "God bless you" , I slap them silly and try to arch my disagreement with their polite incentive to perpetuate a catholic faith onto me.
I totally understand man.
god you sound mad..
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Yup, you were a jerk. Everyone else is right. The thing is, a lot of people seem to think that only religious people can be obnoxious about their beliefs. That's not true! Sometimes, people who don't believe in anything can be even more obnoxious about religion. Why the hell would you explain to this woman why you don't care about her beliefs? It's rude. Suck it up and be nice.
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On March 17 2011 15:52 Alexson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:45 Torte de Lini wrote:Who gives a shit if you don't believe in religion. Just nod, say thank you and move on. It's not a question of religion, it's her blessing you with her appreciation and then you don't give the decency to properly acknowledge it. Your arrogance and need to portray your dislike or disinterest in religion is astoundingly childish. Why don't you consider the whole scene and not look for others to sympathize and agree with you. Let me reiterate the story for you :3 : "Thank you kind young sir for your great service, and God bless you that you still care for the customers and make sure all is well while they visit your store/service" " DONT SPREAD YOUR CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA ALL OVER ME YOU HAG, BARK BARK BARK, IM AN ATHEIST IM GOING TO DISREGARD YOUR COMPLIMENT BECAUSE IT CAME IN A FORM I DONT PERSONALLY BELIEVE IN BARK BARK BARKOn March 17 2011 15:02 Alexson wrote:On March 17 2011 14:45 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Asking "what's the matter?" is not lashing out. Why are you presuming it's about religion? Seems to me that she was confused because she complimented you and you were obviously way too cool to accept a compliment from *gasp* a religious person (ew!!) You have as much reason to presume she was reacting to your apparent atheism as to the colour of your skin.
srsly, l2communicationz lol you didn't even hear how her voice sounded.. it sounded like she wanted to kill me That was my friend trying to troll. On March 14 2011 08:02 Alexson wrote:
I'd be raping girls, killing people brutally (people I hate), and doing all the drugs I can.
I'm being serious. Your friend sounds srs. dude all I was telling her was I don't care. I didn't say why I don't care, I didn't try to convert her or anything, I just said I don't care. nice reply david
News Flash: I don't even think she cares.
If you didn't care about religion at all, then you would have nodded, said your thanks and moved the fuck on.
Here's why you care that people establish the fact that you care about religion:
1. You "mhm"'ed her
2. You proceeded to tell her that you didn't care about religion besides it being none of her business and of little importance since you don't even know who she is and she doesn't care who the fuck you are.
and 3. Because you wrote a whole blog about it hoping others had similar anecdotes to share about a similar situation.
Unfortunately, all the other atheists out there know to close their trap and just be polite like she was.
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On March 17 2011 15:53 NukeTheStars wrote:
Yup, you were a jerk. Everyone else is right. The thing is, a lot of people seem to think that only religious people can be obnoxious about their beliefs. That's not true! Sometimes, people who don't believe in anything can be even more obnoxious about religion. Why the hell would you explain to this woman why you don't care about her beliefs? It's rude. Suck it up and be nice.
cause she asked me man..
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On March 17 2011 15:53 Alexson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Whenever I sneeze and someone says "God bless you" , I slap them silly and try to arch my disagreement with their polite incentive to perpetuate a catholic faith onto me.
I totally understand man. god you sound mad..
Frustrated is the word, but I was hoping my sarcasm would be blatant obvious to you to realize your mistake.
Instead you do a poor troll-attempt. Back to the circus you go~
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You seem pretty disrespectful and immature. Take the compliment and move on. She was trying to be nice and you disregarded it. :/
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On March 17 2011 15:55 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:52 Alexson wrote:On March 17 2011 15:45 Torte de Lini wrote:Who gives a shit if you don't believe in religion. Just nod, say thank you and move on. It's not a question of religion, it's her blessing you with her appreciation and then you don't give the decency to properly acknowledge it. Your arrogance and need to portray your dislike or disinterest in religion is astoundingly childish. Why don't you consider the whole scene and not look for others to sympathize and agree with you. Let me reiterate the story for you :3 : "Thank you kind young sir for your great service, and God bless you that you still care for the customers and make sure all is well while they visit your store/service" " DONT SPREAD YOUR CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA ALL OVER ME YOU HAG, BARK BARK BARK, IM AN ATHEIST IM GOING TO DISREGARD YOUR COMPLIMENT BECAUSE IT CAME IN A FORM I DONT PERSONALLY BELIEVE IN BARK BARK BARKOn March 17 2011 15:02 Alexson wrote:On March 17 2011 14:45 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Asking "what's the matter?" is not lashing out. Why are you presuming it's about religion? Seems to me that she was confused because she complimented you and you were obviously way too cool to accept a compliment from *gasp* a religious person (ew!!) You have as much reason to presume she was reacting to your apparent atheism as to the colour of your skin.
srsly, l2communicationz lol you didn't even hear how her voice sounded.. it sounded like she wanted to kill me That was my friend trying to troll. On March 14 2011 08:02 Alexson wrote:
I'd be raping girls, killing people brutally (people I hate), and doing all the drugs I can.
I'm being serious. Your friend sounds srs. dude all I was telling her was I don't care. I didn't say why I don't care, I didn't try to convert her or anything, I just said I don't care. nice reply david News Flash: I don't even think she cares. If you didn't care about religion at all, then you would have nodded, said your thanks and moved the fuck on. Here's why you care that people establish the fact that you care about religion: 1. You "mhm"'ed her 2. You proceeded to tell her that you didn't care about religion besides it being none of her business and of little importance since you don't even know who she is and she doesn't care who the fuck you are. and 3. Because you wrote a whole blog about it hoping others had similar anecdotes to share about a similar situation. Unfortunately, all the other atheists out there know to close their trap and just be polite like she was.
lol you're wrong. she asked me and i told her why, I was just trying to get out of the conversation.
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On March 17 2011 16:01 Alexson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:55 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 15:52 Alexson wrote:On March 17 2011 15:45 Torte de Lini wrote:Who gives a shit if you don't believe in religion. Just nod, say thank you and move on. It's not a question of religion, it's her blessing you with her appreciation and then you don't give the decency to properly acknowledge it. Your arrogance and need to portray your dislike or disinterest in religion is astoundingly childish. Why don't you consider the whole scene and not look for others to sympathize and agree with you. Let me reiterate the story for you :3 : "Thank you kind young sir for your great service, and God bless you that you still care for the customers and make sure all is well while they visit your store/service" " DONT SPREAD YOUR CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA ALL OVER ME YOU HAG, BARK BARK BARK, IM AN ATHEIST IM GOING TO DISREGARD YOUR COMPLIMENT BECAUSE IT CAME IN A FORM I DONT PERSONALLY BELIEVE IN BARK BARK BARKOn March 17 2011 15:02 Alexson wrote:On March 17 2011 14:45 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Asking "what's the matter?" is not lashing out. Why are you presuming it's about religion? Seems to me that she was confused because she complimented you and you were obviously way too cool to accept a compliment from *gasp* a religious person (ew!!) You have as much reason to presume she was reacting to your apparent atheism as to the colour of your skin.
srsly, l2communicationz lol you didn't even hear how her voice sounded.. it sounded like she wanted to kill me That was my friend trying to troll. On March 14 2011 08:02 Alexson wrote:
I'd be raping girls, killing people brutally (people I hate), and doing all the drugs I can.
I'm being serious. Your friend sounds srs. dude all I was telling her was I don't care. I didn't say why I don't care, I didn't try to convert her or anything, I just said I don't care. nice reply david News Flash: I don't even think she cares. If you didn't care about religion at all, then you would have nodded, said your thanks and moved the fuck on. Here's why you care that people establish the fact that you care about religion: 1. You "mhm"'ed her 2. You proceeded to tell her that you didn't care about religion besides it being none of her business and of little importance since you don't even know who she is and she doesn't care who the fuck you are. and 3. Because you wrote a whole blog about it hoping others had similar anecdotes to share about a similar situation. Unfortunately, all the other atheists out there know to close their trap and just be polite like she was. lol you're wrong. she asked me and i told her why, I was just trying to get out of the conversation.
I forgot, you comply to all demands of your customers that aren't within the realms of your service and contractual pay lol.
Did she ask you to write a blog about your adventures too?
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On March 17 2011 15:55 Alexson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:53 NukeTheStars wrote:
Yup, you were a jerk. Everyone else is right. The thing is, a lot of people seem to think that only religious people can be obnoxious about their beliefs. That's not true! Sometimes, people who don't believe in anything can be even more obnoxious about religion. Why the hell would you explain to this woman why you don't care about her beliefs? It's rude. Suck it up and be nice. cause she asked me man..
Right, she clearly intended through her innocuous remark of "what's the matter" to have a brief lecture on your own religious views to be delivered to her as she pays a boy for her food or whatever it is you do.
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On March 17 2011 16:03 Elegy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:55 Alexson wrote:On March 17 2011 15:53 NukeTheStars wrote:
Yup, you were a jerk. Everyone else is right. The thing is, a lot of people seem to think that only religious people can be obnoxious about their beliefs. That's not true! Sometimes, people who don't believe in anything can be even more obnoxious about religion. Why the hell would you explain to this woman why you don't care about her beliefs? It's rude. Suck it up and be nice. cause she asked me man.. Right, she clearly intended through her innocuous remark of "what's the matter" to have a brief lecture on your own religious views to be delivered to her as she pays a boy for her food or whatever it is you do.
I didn't give her a brief lecture, I just said I don't care about religion/
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Why did you feel the need to say that you don't care about religion?
You could have said that you appreciated the comment and that was it.
I think you do care champ.
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Think of it this way.
She wasn't trying to impose her beliefs onto you, she gave you a compliment in the way that's usual for her, which was to praise you with God's word. She was showing her appreciation for your hard work. Just as someone would say "God bless you" after you sneeze, it's not shoving God down your throat, but a polite idiom.
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So you say you don't care about religion, which you obviously do since you can take any offense by a comment like "god bless you". I agree that it is complete bullshit to go around saying that to people - pretty much anything that "flashes" one's religion in public. But that doesn't give you the right to be dick towards an old lady, no matter how stupid she might be in your eyes.
Personally, I care a lot about religion, but I don't go around flashing my atheist flag whereever the fuck I go. Pick your spots to discuss that kind of stuff and all the other time just roll with it.
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Sounds like you have really bad social skills, dude. Saying you wanted out of the conversation isn't an excuse and probably implicates you further. You should have know what you said would have gotten the reaction that you got.
If you wanted out of the conversation and you had social skills you would have said, "Thank you, I hope you have a good day today."
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Giving her, what I imagine was, a cynical, "mmhmm" is quite rude regardless. You work at a food service establishment. You need to make the customers happy.
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On March 17 2011 15:22 Gak2 wrote:
just say thank you instead of "mmhmm"... it's like someone saying "bless you" after you sneeze. Even if some people still actually mean it in the religious sense like this lady, pretty much all religious connotation that it's associated with is out the window... it's just a courtesy convention.
it does seem this lady overreacted though... maybe not if you spoke to her in a condescending manner but if you didn't then whatever, ignore her and move on.
I was actually going to touch on this in my post. While it's obvious this lady was saying it because she believes in god, I find that quite a lot of people use religious phrases without even meaning it. Sayings such as "I swear to god" or "god, please let..." and so on. If it's something you grow up with, whether you believe or not, it can become a habit.
I'm an atheist, but I was taught that it was polite to say "bless you" after someone sneezes. I wasn't taught it with a religious meaning behind it, just that it was the polite thing to say. I still say it to this day, but I modified the pronunciation when I was 10 or 11 (or may have just always thought of it this way) to "blesh you."
lol you're wrong. she asked me and i told her why, I was just trying to get out of the conversation.
"Sorry, I'm having a rough day. Thanks for the compliment."
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On March 17 2011 16:01 Alexson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:55 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 15:52 Alexson wrote:On March 17 2011 15:45 Torte de Lini wrote:Who gives a shit if you don't believe in religion. Just nod, say thank you and move on. It's not a question of religion, it's her blessing you with her appreciation and then you don't give the decency to properly acknowledge it. Your arrogance and need to portray your dislike or disinterest in religion is astoundingly childish. Why don't you consider the whole scene and not look for others to sympathize and agree with you. Let me reiterate the story for you :3 : "Thank you kind young sir for your great service, and God bless you that you still care for the customers and make sure all is well while they visit your store/service" " DONT SPREAD YOUR CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA ALL OVER ME YOU HAG, BARK BARK BARK, IM AN ATHEIST IM GOING TO DISREGARD YOUR COMPLIMENT BECAUSE IT CAME IN A FORM I DONT PERSONALLY BELIEVE IN BARK BARK BARKOn March 17 2011 15:02 Alexson wrote:On March 17 2011 14:45 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Asking "what's the matter?" is not lashing out. Why are you presuming it's about religion? Seems to me that she was confused because she complimented you and you were obviously way too cool to accept a compliment from *gasp* a religious person (ew!!) You have as much reason to presume she was reacting to your apparent atheism as to the colour of your skin.
srsly, l2communicationz lol you didn't even hear how her voice sounded.. it sounded like she wanted to kill me That was my friend trying to troll. On March 14 2011 08:02 Alexson wrote:
I'd be raping girls, killing people brutally (people I hate), and doing all the drugs I can.
I'm being serious. Your friend sounds srs. dude all I was telling her was I don't care. I didn't say why I don't care, I didn't try to convert her or anything, I just said I don't care. nice reply david News Flash: I don't even think she cares. If you didn't care about religion at all, then you would have nodded, said your thanks and moved the fuck on. Here's why you care that people establish the fact that you care about religion: 1. You "mhm"'ed her 2. You proceeded to tell her that you didn't care about religion besides it being none of her business and of little importance since you don't even know who she is and she doesn't care who the fuck you are. and 3. Because you wrote a whole blog about it hoping others had similar anecdotes to share about a similar situation. Unfortunately, all the other atheists out there know to close their trap and just be polite like she was. lol you're wrong. she asked me and i told her why, I was just trying to get out of the conversation.
You need to work on your "getting out of conversation" skills
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Yeah.
Alexson, buddy, I think TL is right on this one. It sounds like you were the one being a bit too pushy, not her.
Not the end of the world, though. Everyone has their foot-in-mouth moments at work, and everyone misreads a situation from time to time. In the future, just remember to smile, say something polite, and save your opinions of the customers for the break room.
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OP - do you really see nothing wrong with responding with 'mhm' when she complemented you? That was what caused everything to go wrong.
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sounds like the offense that she took was that you pretty much ignored a very nice compliment and tried to start an argument.
I know quite a few people who say god bless you just as a casual saying. its not a big deal, its just a saying
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Alexson, I used to work retail and I've heard a thousand things worse than "bless you" and I never once hand a slighted remark or scoffed because I was working. I've had to help people make copies of material that were offensive to me or someone else. Get over yourself and your high chair and let the lady give you a compliment without intentionally offending her.
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Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it.
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On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it.
Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue.
Take another gander at reading the replies.
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WTF saying that you don't believe is considered disregard ? I consider very rude and disregarding people bothering another people with god and all the bullshit religious stuff. So the lady was actually very rude and offended you. You should have replied: and Satan upon you fool.
Biggest lie ever: god bless you
AM i being rude, probably. Is it the same as someone bothering me with his god bless you nonsense - definately.
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You were being a prick, pure and simple. If someone gives you a compliment, which she clearly thought she was, the correct response is "thank you", or even in your case "I do my best".
This had nothing to do with you not caring about religion, and everything about you responding like a tit.
You clearly have a lot to learn when it comes to being respectful.
edit: Just thought i'd say thank god (appropriate dont you think) that most people here aren't supporting your actions.
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On March 17 2011 15:53 Alexson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 15:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Whenever I sneeze and someone says "God bless you" , I slap them silly and try to arch my disagreement with their polite incentive to perpetuate a catholic faith onto me.
I totally understand man. god you sound mad..
Lol, just found this little gem. You dont find this even slightly ironic?
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On March 17 2011 14:00 So no fek wrote:
Simple thing is to just shrug it off and be polite, instead of pulling the "mhmm". I understand how it could get under your skin, but I'd assume when you're working getting into a theological discussion isn't really the best idea. It sucks that she went off like that, and it'd probably piss me off too, but you had the power to avoid that point.
What if he was black and she said, "I'm glad you niggers are finding jobs these days."?
It might not be intended to offend, but his reaction was fine.
On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies.
Except he's right.
Lots of religious people in the U.S. will take offense if some Muslim were to come up to them and say "Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps." It's essentially the equivalent of what she said, but because that's not the "norm" here it wouldn't fly.
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I find this blog with comments included quite an interesting read, seeing how different cultures react to the way OP responded (who is from BELARUS). Americans are "used" to the 'god bless' and religious people from child-hood. It's a part of your lives whether you are religious or not. I'm not saying the way OP reacted was correct, but I completely understand that the comment from the lady might of surprised him a bit and perhaps took him out of his comfort zone, since he has never experienced something like this before.
If I went to a random person in public, such as a bank lady here in Denmark and said good bye with a god bless you, I have no doubt that it would cause some sort of awkward reaction. That's just because that's how society works over here. She may even be a Christian, but for Denmark, people don't say stuff like that in public.
Americans and others from countries with religious people within your communities, take a step back and try to understand that for many countries around the world, a comment such as the one the lady gave is quite unordinary. And OP, try also to understand that for some religious people, comments like the one the lady gave you is just something that has been incorporated into their lives, they say it to be polite or kind, it is how they were raised. Just take it as a compliment, no reason to be offended what so ever.
That's my view of this blog. I'm half Danish, half American by the way. Moved back to the States recently now as a young adult, and it took some getting use to again after the 11 years in Denmark.
On March 17 2011 19:10 wherebugsgo wrote:Except he's right.
Lots of religious people in the U.S. will take offense if some Muslim were to come up to them and say "Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps." It's essentially the equivalent of what she said, but because that's not the "norm" here it wouldn't fly.
Brilliant post, I think this will help allow the others understand. This is not so much about religion but more of the way your society works. Saying something out of the norm will usually cause weird reactions, unless your international like me :D
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I would be pretty puzzled if someone would give me a compliment that involves "God bless you" or anything similar.
Never heard anything like that here... Peope in general keep religion pretty much to themselves.
But yeah, a simple "Thank You" would have been the appropriate response.
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I guess the OP didn't really want to hear anyone's feedback, however I do think his response could be appropriate depending on its intent. If his intent was to show the Christian woman the error of her beliefs then he could have an in-depth conversation with her regarding it. If he had no intention to follow-up and simply wanted to be rude then it was unnecessary.
I used to work as a checkout operator and one time I asked a man how his day was. He said he felt like his life had been turned inside out. I asked why and he said something along the lines of Jesus Christ. Anyhow, I can't remember how we got talking but I raised the issue that some people don't feel like life is fair and that God didn't give us the choice as to whether or not we actually wanted to be born.
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It's sad but allot of people act and think this way. Its only because they we're raised back in the day and din't have many distractions outside there local community, not like our generations with all our technology. Most people being catholic somewhere along the lines gotten to used to being surrounded by mostly catholics.
Some go as far as to think that this is the religion of choice of the human race, and are ignorant towards others who may not believe in there beliefs ( gay marriage, abortion, other religious views).
Not all catholics are like that I am catholic, or was raised catholic I should say.
They just take there believes very seriously.
I find being so rude to people will make them react in a uncanny way, this makes your character look bad. This surely is the reason for her response and any other run in like this.
Telling someone with faith that you don't believe can very well get you into a situation that you could care less for. Yes, it is wrong for them to force there beliefs on to others, but its not as wrong as it is to hurt on someones faith. Even without directly insulting there faith many people will feel the need to act a certain way if you are persistent in saying your a non believer.
Its just best to avoid the matter.
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So if you sneeze and someone in the room says God bless you, would you also tell them to fuck off? You're a prick dude, grow up.
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Russian Federation42 Posts
1. "mhmm" is not rude (kinda) response in post soviet countries
2. anyway would be better if you said thanks and leave it
3. btw we dont say "bless you" when someone sneeze, we say something more like "be healthy" "be good"
edit; and actually here (where i live at least), when someone mention "god" and stuff like that in a regular day life its sounds weird yeah.
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On March 17 2011 19:49 Essentia wrote:
So if you sneeze and someone in the room says God bless you, would you also tell them to fuck off? You're a prick dude, grow up.
Where are you people getting this from? He didn't tell her to fuck off, so the answer is clearly no.
As for me, as I have been in similar situations before, when people say "bless you" or "God bless you" when I sneeze, I just ignore it.
Once or twice I've been given an ugly look because I've completely ignored the remark, but honestly, I don't care. lol.
EDIT: Also, in many other languages the response to a sneeze or something similar is non-religious. English is strange this way, for whatever reason.
Of course, a lot of languages have religious connotations in the way they say farewells. In English it's "goodbye," which is a contraction of "God be with ye". Now that connotation is gone, and we even say "bye", which, in a historical context, makes no sense whatsoever.
In other languages, like the romance languages, the similarities persist, likewise. Spanish, for example: adios= a dios vos acomiendo
So although it's debatable, the "religiosity" of a comment depends on its context. In this situation, it's ambiguous, although judging by her remark she is obviously a religious person, and she is not used to nonreligious people receiving her religiously slanted remark in an awkward manner. Her response of "go to hell" afterward exemplifies this, as he didn't set out to insult her, he just said "I don't care about religion."
He could have phrased it better, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that the only reason this happened is because it's "normal" to say in an English-speaking country. Like I said before, if some Muslim were to say the exact same thing to you, but substitute Allah for God or whatever, you'd probably act pretty weird too.
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Yea i dont get why you would reply "mhm" then proceed to tell her that you dont care about religion. Just say "thank you" and move on.
At work just leave religion out of it. I dont really care if someone is an Atheist, Christian or Shinto, and i dont see why you'd start an argument about it.
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All you had to do was smile in affirmation to her original comment. The fact that you said "mmhmm" is incredibly rude and disrespectful.
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On March 17 2011 19:10 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:00 So no fek wrote:
Simple thing is to just shrug it off and be polite, instead of pulling the "mhmm". I understand how it could get under your skin, but I'd assume when you're working getting into a theological discussion isn't really the best idea. It sucks that she went off like that, and it'd probably piss me off too, but you had the power to avoid that point.
What if he was black and she said, "I'm glad you niggers are finding jobs these days."? It might not be intended to offend, but his reaction was fine. Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. Except he's right. Lots of religious people in the U.S. will take offense if some Muslim were to come up to them and say "Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps." It's essentially the equivalent of what she said, but because that's not the "norm" here it wouldn't fly.
Noone says that dude. Really they don't.
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didnt uh..
Tdot...
say...
300 posts...
Lol this guy sounds like he might be trolling.
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I can imagine that situation, OP.
I could react similarly if I were younger and not prepared. And that is just because I was not used to hear such things and was sincere. It would just sound weird for me as an atheist and if I answered good bless you or thank you I mey have felt like hypocritic.
So if hmmh just means that you didn't know what to reply... I just don't get why she did then.
Edit: sorry for my English.
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You're complaining about nothing. Do you know how crazy some Koreans can be about religion? I've had a woman follow me around in a mall for half an hour trying to convince me that if I didn't accept and love God, I'd burn in hell.
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On March 17 2011 19:10 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 14:00 So no fek wrote:
Simple thing is to just shrug it off and be polite, instead of pulling the "mhmm". I understand how it could get under your skin, but I'd assume when you're working getting into a theological discussion isn't really the best idea. It sucks that she went off like that, and it'd probably piss me off too, but you had the power to avoid that point.
What if he was black and she said, "I'm glad you ******* are finding jobs these days."? It might not be intended to offend, but his reaction was fine. Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. Except he's right. Lots of religious people in the U.S. will take offense if some Muslim were to come up to them and say "Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps." It's essentially the equivalent of what she said, but because that's not the "norm" here it wouldn't fly.
Allow me to give you a correct analogy (your use of hyperbole in conjunction with analogy is misleading)
Man walks up to the counter and says Praise Allah for a worker such as yourself.
I say, "hmph"
customer takes offense that you would belittle the message behind his compliment
As to your second point, that's because your example is giving a compliment in a non-english language. If he said the same exact thing in english "God is great, God willing more young people like you will follow in your footsteps" I don't know anyone who would take offense to that. Well, I don't know anyone in real life who would, but on the internet I just found my first one!
Edit: Can I also point out that by saying mhmm, followed by I don't care about religion instead of just a simple mhmm, thank you you're broadcasting your own beliefs. Something you simply HATE christians doing (clearly). Take some time to be introspective and think about this. I understand it's the internet and you won't admit you're wrong, I know because I wouldn't either, but at least in real life reflect on this and try to become the person you want to be. This message brought to you by an atheist who keeps it to themselves and knows how to take a compliment
Edit 2: Dropped the offensive word from my quote. You should be ashamed for trying to make such a wild off-the-mark analogy comparing racial bigotry to a gentle religious tap (if you want to call a compliment that has a religious origin that)
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Why didn't you just say thank you? :s
It's not like she turned to her husband and said "oh look honey, i think it's great they let anyone work here and he's doing so good! oh it's ok son, take your time with that, we understand."
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Russian Federation42 Posts
Have to add to my previous post that OP shoudn't post these kind of stuff here on TL. Reaction from users pretty much predictable on these things. (cuz they are foreigners + mostly "west style").
Well once again its not like you were right either.
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On March 17 2011 21:28 pOlt wrote:
Have to add to my previous post that OP shoudn't post these kind of stuff here on TL. Reaction from users pretty much predictable on these things. (cuz they are foreigners + mostly "west style").
Well once again its not like you were right either.
True, it is predictable, but it's like that person who posted the blog about how lazy he is and it's his father's fault etcetcetc. Idiotic crap just doesn't fly on TL for the most part
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LOL? The lady says god bless, and compliments you and you fly into a rage and basically tell her she's an idiot? And it's her fault?
religion will never, EVER make sense to people with actual self aware questioning minds. I even got to live in Utah....if you think regular Christians care about their religion...you have never met a Mormon family.
As for this.......there have been many, many smart men in history that not only just claimed a religion, but studied and followed it as well. Isaac Newton is perhaps the most famous example. One of the most brilliant men of his time, and yet more than half of his literary works were expositions and explanations on the Bible and prophecy.
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On March 17 2011 20:12 Dismantlethethroat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 19:10 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 17 2011 14:00 So no fek wrote:
Simple thing is to just shrug it off and be polite, instead of pulling the "mhmm". I understand how it could get under your skin, but I'd assume when you're working getting into a theological discussion isn't really the best idea. It sucks that she went off like that, and it'd probably piss me off too, but you had the power to avoid that point.
What if he was black and she said, "I'm glad you niggers are finding jobs these days."? It might not be intended to offend, but his reaction was fine. On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. Except he's right. Lots of religious people in the U.S. will take offense if some Muslim were to come up to them and say "Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps." It's essentially the equivalent of what she said, but because that's not the "norm" here it wouldn't fly. Noone says that dude. Really they don't.
No one says that here. EXACTLY.
But in Muslim countries they say it all the time. Do you understand my point now?
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On March 17 2011 21:22 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 19:10 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 17 2011 14:00 So no fek wrote:
Simple thing is to just shrug it off and be polite, instead of pulling the "mhmm". I understand how it could get under your skin, but I'd assume when you're working getting into a theological discussion isn't really the best idea. It sucks that she went off like that, and it'd probably piss me off too, but you had the power to avoid that point.
What if he was black and she said, "I'm glad you ******* are finding jobs these days."? It might not be intended to offend, but his reaction was fine. On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. Except he's right. Lots of religious people in the U.S. will take offense if some Muslim were to come up to them and say "Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps." It's essentially the equivalent of what she said, but because that's not the "norm" here it wouldn't fly. Allow me to give you a correct analogy (your use of hyperbole in conjunction with analogy is misleading) Man walks up to the counter and says Praise Allah for a worker such as yourself. I say, "hmph" customer takes offense that you would belittle the message behind his compliment As to your second point, that's because your example is giving a compliment in a non-english language. If he said the same exact thing in english "God is great, God willing more young people like you will follow in your footsteps" I don't know anyone who would take offense to that. Well, I don't know anyone in real life who would, but on the internet I just found my first one! Edit: Can I also point out that by saying mhmm, followed by I don't care about religion instead of just a simple mhmm, thank you you're broadcasting your own beliefs. Something you simply HATE christians doing (clearly). Take some time to be introspective and think about this. I understand it's the internet and you won't admit you're wrong, I know because I wouldn't either, but at least in real life reflect on this and try to become the person you want to be. This message brought to you by an atheist who keeps it to themselves and knows how to take a compliment Edit 2: Dropped the offensive word from my quote. You should be ashamed for trying to make such a wild off-the-mark analogy comparing racial bigotry to a gentle religious tap (if you want to call a compliment that has a religious origin that)
Lol, this is funny.
First of all, it's not hyperbole. No, the analogy with respect to race isn't very accurate, but it's similar. The lady in the OP doesn't consider for a minute that the guy doesn't share her religious beliefs. She's being just as inconsiderate as the guy in his response, yet no one notices this because it's "normal" to say "God bless" here in the U.S. If it weren't "normal" then obviously it wouldn't be acceptable! This is why I chose to bring in the racial comment, and the comment involving Allah.
As for the language difference, that's bs. Anyone with half a brain knows that "Allah" is synonymous with "God." Thus, the only difference between the two statements would be that one is broadcasting a Christian influence and the other a Muslim one. In fact, coming from a Muslim background many of my cousins say this to me routinely, so yes, people do say those kinds of things (with a Muslim influence, as opposed to Christian). And they say it in English, nonetheless. It's just much rarer because 80% of the country isn't Muslim, it's Christian.
Lastly, it wasn't bigoted 30 years ago to call someone "nigger." If you consider it from this perspective, that, hey, this woman wasn't aware that her use of the term "nigger" (or, in this case, her use of the term "God bless you") could be perceived as offensive, then of course by her perspective she means no harm, but the end result is the same. The difference is that we are in two different social norms right now. In Europe you would never hear anyone say what she said (or at least, extremely rarely) and likewise in both places right now you wouldn't hear anyone use the term "nigger." It's a matter of societal values, and the U.S. honestly just isn't there yet.
EDIT: Oops, double post. my bad.
Allow me to give you a correct analogy (your use of hyperbole in conjunction with analogy is misleading)
Man walks up to the counter and says Praise Allah for a worker such as yourself.
I say, "hmph"
customer takes offense that you would belittle the message behind his compliment
I just wanted to add that 90% of American Christians would take offense to this.
I would warrant at least half of them would take offense to the mere presence of a Muslim in the store, let alone his or her speech.
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On March 17 2011 22:34 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 20:12 Dismantlethethroat wrote:On March 17 2011 19:10 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 17 2011 14:00 So no fek wrote:
Simple thing is to just shrug it off and be polite, instead of pulling the "mhmm". I understand how it could get under your skin, but I'd assume when you're working getting into a theological discussion isn't really the best idea. It sucks that she went off like that, and it'd probably piss me off too, but you had the power to avoid that point.
What if he was black and she said, "I'm glad you niggers are finding jobs these days."? It might not be intended to offend, but his reaction was fine. On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. Except he's right. Lots of religious people in the U.S. will take offense if some Muslim were to come up to them and say "Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps." It's essentially the equivalent of what she said, but because that's not the "norm" here it wouldn't fly. Noone says that dude. Really they don't. No one says that here. EXACTLY. But in Muslim countries they say it all the time. Do you understand my point now?
if i were in a place where it was the norm, i'd thank them
kind of like he should have done so that he wouldn't look like a pretentious dick to an old lady
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She told you to go to hell because she gave you a compliment and instead of being polite and saying "thank you, have a nice day" you said "mmhmm" and showed your elders absolutely no respect.
When an old lady says something nice to you, you say Thanks, it doesn't matter if you believe in god or anything she wasn't trying to push her beliefs on you, but you turned around and shit on her beliefs anyways.
You acted like a punk so she treated you like a punk.
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Sure the OP over-reacted a bit, but it's still kind of annoying when people assume that their own religious beliefs are the norm. Obviously simply saying "god bless you" isn't a big deal, so yeah I'm inclined to think that the obvious reaction should have been to simply smile and nod, regardless of your personal beliefs.
I had a somewhat similar occurance last weekend. My boyfriend and I were out getting breakfast together. We're holding hands across the table, idly chatting and waiting for our food to arrive. There's an old man at another table who keeps staring at us. I thought he was kind of weird, but didn't think much of it. Anyway after he gets his check he stops by the table and says "I just need to say how nice it is to see a young couple like yourselves. I was wonderinf how you were going to eat holding hands like that!" We both thought this was really sweet, and wished the old man a nice day as he left. Random compliment from a stranger, how nice, right? Put me in a good mood.
About 3 minutes later he comes back, (having already left the restaurant). "Sorry, I just had a few more things to say." He kneels down in front of our table. "You know that god created us all differently, and has a special plan for each of us, right? He sent his only son to die for your sins... [...]" etc etc etc. We both smiled and nodded and feigned interest through a little 5 minute speech about Jebus and all that jazz. I briefly considered explaining to him that I had quite different spiritual beliefs, and that quite frankly I was sick of hearing this shit, but we stayed polite and just smiled and nodded occasionally. He seemed a bit bummed, as our frustration having our meal interrupted for such a speech was probably somewhat noticable. But we wished him a pleasant day again, and he took off, this time for good. Surely I could have told him off, but his intentions were good, so I bit the bullet and let him talk.
However I also agree with a lot of the other posters in this thread. Simply because Christianity happens to be the majority religion here doesn't mean peolpe should be expected to listen to random shpeils if they don't want to. A Muslim pulling a similar stunt would have 100% gotten a negative reaction in 95% of this country. If I went around wishing people a blessed Imbolc, I'd get weird looks too. I can sympathize with the OP if this sort of thing happens a lot, but for the most part, it's best to just suck it up and be polite.
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Typical bible thumper. Just ignore them. Life lesson learned.
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On March 17 2011 22:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol, this is funny.
First of all, it's not hyperbole. No, the analogy with respect to race isn't very accurate, but it's similar. The lady in the OP doesn't consider for a minute that the guy doesn't share her religious beliefs. She's being just as inconsiderate as the guy in his response, yet no one notices this because it's "normal" to say "God bless" here in the U.S. If it weren't "normal" then obviously it wouldn't be acceptable! This is why I chose to bring in the racial comment, and the comment involving Allah.
So you recognize that it's a normal saying in the U.S. Okay, then why don't you recognize that, coming from her, it's a normal compliment and should be taken as such? In no way did she intend to offend him nor did she try to stuff religion down his throat. Your analogies are completely off base and you are comparing apples to oranges. In the end it was just an innocent compliment.
As for the language difference, that's bs. Anyone with half a brain knows that "Allah" is synonymous with "God." Thus, the only difference between the two statements would be that one is broadcasting a Christian influence and the other a Muslim one. In fact, coming from a Muslim background many of my cousins say this to me routinely, so yes, people do say those kinds of things (with a Muslim influence, as opposed to Christian). And they say it in English, nonetheless. It's just much rarer because 80% of the country isn't Muslim, it's Christian.
"Allahu akbar, inshallah more young people like you follow in your steps."
As much as I understand what 'Allah' means, spurting out a foreign phrase like that would confuse me, so the language difference is there. However, I understand the analogy you are trying to portray here and I reiterate my previous stance: that is not the norm, most people would have no idea what it means nor how to react to it. There's a difference when something is common and another is not. You should always be adapted to your current surroundings. There's an old phrase for this you know: When in Rome, do as the Romans do. This means learn to respect the culture/beliefs of the country (or specific area) you are in.
Lastly, it wasn't bigoted 30 years ago to call someone "nigger." If you consider it from this perspective, that, hey, this woman wasn't aware that her use of the term "nigger" (or, in this case, her use of the term "God bless you") could be perceived as offensive, then of course by her perspective she means no harm, but the end result is the same. The difference is that we are in two different social norms right now. In Europe you would never hear anyone say what she said (or at least, extremely rarely) and likewise in both places right now you wouldn't hear anyone use the term "nigger." It's a matter of societal values, and the U.S. honestly just isn't there yet.
Again, this analogy is way off base. Calling someone a specific thing and saying "God bless you" are two totally different things. The word "n*****" has always been used as a derogatory term even if it was the norm in historical times. "God bless you" is in no way derogatory--there is no reason to take offense. Okay, you don't believe in God, that's fine; however, the phrase is not telling you to have faith in God, it's a kind gesture.
Show nested quote +Allow me to give you a correct analogy (your use of hyperbole in conjunction with analogy is misleading)
Man walks up to the counter and says Praise Allah for a worker such as yourself.
I say, "hmph"
customer takes offense that you would belittle the message behind his compliment I just wanted to add that 90% of American Christians would take offense to this. I would warrant at least half of them would take offense to the mere presence of a Muslim in the store, let alone his or her speech.
Really, 90% of American Christians? Are you going to give us actual proof or are you just spouting a load of crap? There are people who would take offense to "Praise Allah," but saying 90% of American Christians would is an outrageous claim.
And 50% of American Christians would take offense to being in the same room as a Muslim? You must be trolling.
In the end the comment had NOTHING to do with religion, it was just a nice compliment. If anyone is trying to shove their beliefs onto another, it's the OP. He brought up the topic of religion, she didn't. She only defended herself from his ignorance.
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On March 17 2011 23:23 Haemonculus wrote:
However I also agree with a lot of the other posters in this thread. Simply because Christianity happens to be the majority religion here doesn't mean peolpe should be expected to listen to random shpeils if they don't want to.
The difference is that the lady in this case just used God bless as a throw away comment. She wasnt trying to instigate a theological debate, nor was she trying to preach.
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On March 17 2011 23:23 Haemonculus wrote:
Sure the OP over-reacted a bit, but it's still kind of annoying when people assume that their own religious beliefs are the norm. Obviously simply saying "god bless you" isn't a big deal, so yeah I'm inclined to think that the obvious reaction should have been to simply smile and nod, regardless of your personal beliefs.
I had a somewhat similar occurance last weekend. My boyfriend and I were out getting breakfast together. We're holding hands across the table, idly chatting and waiting for our food to arrive. There's an old man at another table who keeps staring at us. I thought he was kind of weird, but didn't think much of it. Anyway after he gets his check he stops by the table and says "I just need to say how nice it is to see a young couple like yourselves. I was wonderinf how you were going to eat holding hands like that!" We both thought this was really sweet, and wished the old man a nice day as he left. Random compliment from a stranger, how nice, right? Put me in a good mood.
About 3 minutes later he comes back, (having already left the restaurant). "Sorry, I just had a few more things to say." He kneels down in front of our table. "You know that god created us all differently, and has a special plan for each of us, right? He sent his only son to die for your sins... [...]" etc etc etc. We both smiled and nodded and feigned interest through a little 5 minute speech about Jebus and all that jazz. I briefly considered explaining to him that I had quite different spiritual beliefs, and that quite frankly I was sick of hearing this shit, but we stayed polite and just smiled and nodded occasionally. He seemed a bit bummed, as our frustration having our meal interrupted for such a speech was probably somewhat noticable. But we wished him a pleasant day again, and he took off, this time for good. Surely I could have told him off, but his intentions were good, so I bit the bullet and let him talk.
However I also agree with a lot of the other posters in this thread. Simply because Christianity happens to be the majority religion here doesn't mean peolpe should be expected to listen to random shpeils if they don't want to. A Muslim pulling a similar stunt would have 100% gotten a negative reaction in 95% of this country. If I went around wishing people a blessed Imbolc, I'd get weird looks too. I can sympathize with the OP if this sort of thing happens a lot, but for the most part, it's best to just suck it up and be polite.
I also believe there is a way to go about doing things in a respectful manner.
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god bless you, you're a mighty fine boy playing starcraft at such a young age.
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On March 18 2011 00:34 darmousseh wrote:
god bless you, you're a mighty fine boy playing starcraft at such a young age.
Priceless.
This is good stuff. : D
Thanks for making my day.
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On March 18 2011 00:34 darmousseh wrote:
god bless you, you're a mighty fine boy playing starcraft at such a young age.
Lol, you might have to wait a while before he responds, hes just been banned
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op is a douchecanoe. That's all there really is to it... manners
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On March 18 2011 00:41 Mofisto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 00:34 darmousseh wrote:
god bless you, you're a mighty fine boy playing starcraft at such a young age. Lol, you might have to wait a while before he responds, hes just been banned
too bad, after he was going to tell me he didn't care about religion (obviously slighting my compliment to him) I was going to kindly wish him to go to hell.
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On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies.
I didn't want to read through five pages of stupid. I didn't miss the mark what the fuck are you talking about? Is there some DEEPER IDEOLOGICAL MEANING in a teamliquid blog post that I'm not seeing(rhetorical)?
You're Canadian.
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On March 18 2011 01:41 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. I didn't want to read through five pages of stupid. I didn't miss the mark what the fuck are you talking about? Is there some DEEPER IDEOLOGICAL MEANING in a teamliquid blog post that I'm not seeing(rhetorical)? You're Canadian.
It's nearly 7 pages of agreement that your synonymous thinking is equally as poor as the OP's.
Hey, news flash, I'm Swiss. Joke's on you for implying a stereotype and missing the mark again.
This is location, not place of birth or citizenship. Don't pass go, do not collect 200$
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On March 18 2011 01:41 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. I didn't want to read through five pages of stupid. I didn't miss the mark what the fuck are you talking about? Is there some DEEPER IDEOLOGICAL MEANING in a teamliquid blog post that I'm not seeing(rhetorical)? You're Canadian.
Saying thank you when someone compliments you is not being forced to tip toe around religion. It is manners. They are not forcing a religious debate on you when they say God Bless and there is no reason to go "mmhmm i don't care about god so gtfo old lady" unless you are an immature aggressive retard who is just looking for argument where there isn't any.
But you wouldn't know that because there is no way you could have missed the mark after skipping every page of the thread right?
That geographical ad hominem at the end makes it so much better considering where you are from. Icing.
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On March 18 2011 01:55 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 01:41 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. I didn't want to read through five pages of stupid. I didn't miss the mark what the fuck are you talking about? Is there some DEEPER IDEOLOGICAL MEANING in a teamliquid blog post that I'm not seeing(rhetorical)? You're Canadian. It's nearly 7 pages of agreement that you're synonymous thinking is equally as poor as the OP's. Hey, news flash, I'm Swiss. Joke's on you for implying a stereotype and missing the mark again. This is location, not place of birth or citizenship. Don't pass go, do not collect 200$
The Swiss thing makes a lot more sense. Also, your Monopoly reference(as corny as it was) would have had a more resounding "kapow" if you did not use the contraction.
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On March 18 2011 02:06 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 01:55 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 18 2011 01:41 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. I didn't want to read through five pages of stupid. I didn't miss the mark what the fuck are you talking about? Is there some DEEPER IDEOLOGICAL MEANING in a teamliquid blog post that I'm not seeing(rhetorical)? You're Canadian. It's nearly 7 pages of agreement that you're synonymous thinking is equally as poor as the OP's. Hey, news flash, I'm Swiss. Joke's on you for implying a stereotype and missing the mark again. This is location, not place of birth or citizenship. Don't pass go, do not collect 200$ The Swiss thing makes a lot more sense. Also, your Monopoly reference(as corny as it was) would have had a more resounding "kapow" if you did not use the contraction.
Joke's on you, I'm American as well.
Yes, I have three citzenships and passports and I am of 5 nationalities and grew up with two religions on my belt.
I just enjoy toying with your poor attempt to try and classify me because in most cases, it's wrong because I am multi-cultural and knowledgeable in several religions as a child. Additionally, you just presume without actually specifying what exactly "makes sense". So laughable and painful to read as it reveals very little about me, but tells everyone a whole lot about you, unfortunate things.
All this is telling me is 1. You have nothing to say and 2. Your cheap antics shows how pale your intelligence is.
Best of luck.
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I think there are some pretty crazy things getting said in this thread (i'm looking at you, person who analogized the old lady's compliment to someone calling their cashier a n*****).
What this thread boils down to is a simple question:
On March 10 2011 08:26 Alexson wrote:
I know this is crap compared to the TL'ers with phds and shit but god damn, at almost 15 years of age i feel pretty good about getting a job [at Wendy's] and not sitting on my ass like the other kids my age.
So I heard about people getting fired for no reason, what are some ways that I can make sure I wont be this guy?
It consequently boils down a simple answer: be polite to the customers even if you find them offensive.
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On March 18 2011 01:41 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. I didn't want to read through five pages of stupid. I didn't miss the mark what the fuck are you talking about? Is there some DEEPER IDEOLOGICAL MEANING in a teamliquid blog post that I'm not seeing(rhetorical)? You're Canadian.
Why are you posting in a thread if you're not going to read it first?
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On March 18 2011 02:13 HULKAMANIA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 01:41 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. I didn't want to read through five pages of stupid. I didn't miss the mark what the fuck are you talking about? Is there some DEEPER IDEOLOGICAL MEANING in a teamliquid blog post that I'm not seeing(rhetorical)? You're Canadian. Why are you posting in a thread if you're not going to read it first?
Damn, someone already reported him ):
Yeah, it's odd how arrogant he's being, yet is now reading the replies to his post (which was originally one).
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On March 18 2011 02:15 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 02:13 HULKAMANIA wrote:On March 18 2011 01:41 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:On March 17 2011 17:28 Torte de Lini wrote:On March 17 2011 17:23 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Kind of annoying how atheists have to tip toe around religion like in the conversation the OP described or else come off as rude. Sadly we are the minority. I'd say get over it. Way to miss the mark champ. Not even close to the actual issue. Take another gander at reading the replies. I didn't want to read through five pages of stupid. I didn't miss the mark what the fuck are you talking about? Is there some DEEPER IDEOLOGICAL MEANING in a teamliquid blog post that I'm not seeing(rhetorical)? You're Canadian. Why are you posting in a thread if you're not going to read it first? Damn, someone already reported him ): Yeah, it's odd how arrogant he's being, yet is now reading the replies to his post (which was originally one).
Yeah, who knows? It is odd.
Evidently the only thing that could save this thread from being 100% stupid was his input. I'm just glad he saw fit to share his enlightenment with the rest of us.
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I'm actually pretty surprised people even find the comment "God bless you" to even carry much religious connotation in every day speech. I mean, even the extremely socially conditioned reactionary "bless you" that one says when someone nearby sneezes certainly has its etymology rooted in Christianity... but no one says "bless you" to someone who just sneezed as a form of religious ritual.
In the winter holidays, when someone says "merry christmas" to you, do you reply with "yeah, I don't care about religion"? This is pretty much just nonsense. You'd have to create language and culture completely anew if you're so anal about the slightest religious connotations.
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On March 18 2011 02:52 koreasilver wrote:
I'm actually pretty surprised people even find the comment "God bless you" to even carry much religious connotation in every day speech. I mean, even the extremely socially conditioned reactionary "bless you" that one says when someone nearby sneezes certainly has its etymology rooted in Christianity... but no one says "bless you" to someone who just sneezed as a form of religious ritual.
In the winter holidays, when someone says "merry christmas" to you, do you reply with "yeah, I don't care about religion"? This is pretty much just nonsense. You'd have to create language and culture completely anew if you're so anal about the slightest religious connotations.
Sounds an awful lot like me when I was 15 or someshit, edgy and rebellious as I was...
Eh, "God bless you" isn't a term used here but if it was I'd reply with a very simple "and you". No, I don't give two shits about religion but that doesn't mean I have to be impolite in response to him/her being polite.
"God bless you" doesn't mean "CONVERT YOU HERETIC" after all.
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When someone says "god bless you" sometimes I'll reply "Gesundheit" even when nobody sneezed.
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You'd have to create language and culture completely anew if you're so anal about the slightest religious connotations.
lol
If OP's situation took place in his country, then in fact they (we) dont have any slightest religious connotations. And what that lady said is actually quite not regular. That's why he make such a big deal.
And once again "hmm" its a normal responce here to whatever some random stranger tell you. (and btw here, the customer is the one who shoudn't be rude or acting weird, well not kinda apply to this situation with lady and her "good intention") It's just OP overreacting.
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I definitely am one for individual choices and beliefs regarding religion.
But I feel this was kind of untactful from your part. As an employee, you should be respecting the views of your customers, and give them a lot more leeway than you would in normal situations. Especially in a case like this, where the lady said something that was saying something kind to you, I think it was really uncalled for you to call her out on what she said like that.
I can definitely understand that you don't like having your beliefs encroached upon - I personally hate it when I have evangelists come knocking on my door and preaching to me in my own house. But the lady was being nice to you, and she wasn't trying to convert you or anything! For the lady, she was making a nice comment to you! Honestly, I think that was the biggest factor - she gave you a genuine compliment, and got a rude response in return! I'd be pretty mad if I told somebody something like, "You are a great person" and they give me some mean comment about it. I doubt it was her intent to get you to change your religious beliefs or something.... it was just to say something nice to you. So her response was perfectly justified.
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