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draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
October 31 2004 23:51 GMT
#141
130-150 P user. My apm has gone up maybe 10 since BWChart was released. I credit that to myself improving as a player, not being affected by the apm craze. I will have games where I get up to about 170-180 or so, but the average always stays in the mid/low 100s.

The focus should be to be more effective with you have, not trying as hard as you can to get your numbers up. I can't even begin to name off all of the players I've seen with rather high apms who were still nothing more than average skilled.
t.t
weedlover
Profile Joined June 2004
Greece174 Posts
November 01 2004 00:04 GMT
#142
130 - 180 Z user. And just a quick note: apm doesnt matter AT all
GOSU:one with godlike starcraft abilities with the inference that the individual`s sex life suffers as a result.Derives from god of sc universe.
DooMeR
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1519 Posts
November 01 2004 00:06 GMT
#143
i dont know what is stupider, people worring about APM, or people that CONSTANTLY repeat, "APM means nothing", honestly u both get on my nerves, just leave it alone T_T
2ndFoundation
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany212 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-01 00:40:44
November 01 2004 00:40 GMT
#144
On November 01 2004 09:06 DooMeR wrote:
i dont know what is stupider, people worring about APM, or people that CONSTANTLY repeat, "APM means nothing", honestly u both get on my nerves, just leave it alone T_T


word!
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
November 01 2004 01:00 GMT
#145
My average apm is 500, but I don't actually win any games since I'm so busy switching between my two hotkeyed SCVs...
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
November 01 2004 03:03 GMT
#146
My apm is this much:
|____________________________________________|
| |

I hopy I contributed something worthwhile to yet another useless apm topic.

Thank you
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
IcedEarth
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States3661 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-01 07:41:45
November 01 2004 07:35 GMT
#147
My terran is usually around 180-250 (used to be a steady 290-300). Toss is closer to 150-170 and I've broken 200 with zerg once. My zerg is usually closer to 120-150.

Avg APM high was a 10 minute tvz game on neo gamei with 401. That won't ever happen again =/

And people who said "who cares?" and then flaming stuff, or people like the guy above me who despise apm threads, this isn't a thread where we're trying to prove how apm reflects skill or not. The creator just asked for the number. Lighten up a little. =/
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Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
November 01 2004 07:41 GMT
#148
300 Toss
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
November 01 2004 07:42 GMT
#149
On November 01 2004 12:03 EAGER-beaver wrote:
My apm is this much:
|____________________________________________|
| |

I hopy I contributed something worthwhile to yet another useless apm topic.

Thank you


haha =] i agree these apm topics are pretty stupid
All Those beneath an angry star
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
November 01 2004 07:45 GMT
#150
does anyone else see the parallels between penis size and apm...

"size doesn't matter it's skills!!"

haha
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Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
November 01 2004 08:09 GMT
#151
On October 30 2004 21:00 oPtioNaLk wrote:
Z User; 160-220 apm.
Usually around 180.


exact same here
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
November 01 2004 08:49 GMT
#152
1040234023 apm
All Those beneath an angry star
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17045 Posts
November 01 2004 08:52 GMT
#153
160 APM +/- 20 I'm Zerg player. I don't do clicking like hotkey between Overlords. My APM rises dramatically when I'm using Mutalisk harass and trying to Macro at the same time
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asticx
Profile Joined February 2004
China100 Posts
November 01 2004 10:51 GMT
#154
I am T user, only 190 now -_-
koit
Profile Joined July 2004
United States450 Posts
November 01 2004 10:54 GMT
#155
220, but your apm is only what you make of it (both meanings meant)
aka f(x)dx
Jestics
Profile Joined August 2004
United States21 Posts
November 01 2004 11:06 GMT
#156
Like 130 with toss and 150 with zerg, but so what? Echo, a 1700+ NeoGamei has 110 and is still a fantastic player.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
November 01 2004 11:34 GMT
#157
Before I quit last year, I was pulling about 170~180 Toss, that's with out all that unless clicking in the first 3 mins like everyone else seems to do. Yesterday I got on to play with the friends and was only pulling about 110~120.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
dnaxmen
Profile Joined July 2004
Australia124 Posts
November 01 2004 12:49 GMT
#158
Mine is about 110-120 in average. like what NotSorry said. different from most of ppl who clicking their mouse and keyboard with unless operations, i don't have too much actions in the beginning of games. coz i 'm enjoying the game rather than high AMP performance
DNA
Detoxine
Profile Joined June 2004
Poland37 Posts
November 01 2004 14:29 GMT
#159
Hello,

Maybe somebody said something quite like Im going to say now, but I didn't follow the whole topic from the beginning.

The main problem with APM is that many players trying to get as high as possible, but they are archiving this goal following wrong way. Some people try to remember, that they have to be fast during the whole game. Not only to increase the average APM, but they also follow the simple logic, that higher APM leads to victory.

The result of such behavior is a game with really high APM, but full of stupid repetive-clics, or even more stupid selects (1,2,3,1,2,3), etc.

If you wish to be faster, try another way. For start, try to make your APM as slow as it is possible. Try to reduce the amount of stupid clics. When you are sending a scouting peon click once on the target location. If you are trying to reach some raising builng with that peon click once near the location. I saw that many people clicks dozen times for a single move. It will increase your APM, but I won't make the peon go any faster. The same thing about any moves.

Try to achieve as low APM is it is possible. Of course not by waiting a second between every gateway selection/goon build command, but reduction of unnececery clics. Just analize your games and find any redundant actions, that you could live without. When you achieve this not try to go be faster. Not by stupid repetition, but just make faster all things you already do.

You can have APM like 200, but after removal of all stupid actions it may turns out, that you really are about 70. Not because you are slow, but because you waste your time on mindless clicks.

Stupid moves give you 250 APM, but you will be owned by somebody with 150, who dont do crappy clicks.


GG
GrooVe
Profile Joined October 2004
Finland196 Posts
November 01 2004 15:24 GMT
#160
Im protoss and about 200 apm but who cares? I can lost to ppl who have 60 apm. I would like the pro who would have 20 apm and he owns all. Why ppl think big apm is good?
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