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hehe
United States132 Posts
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
-Wolf Blitzer One of the rare voices of reason in all this. | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On January 09 2011 11:52 Selith wrote: Generally in political spectrum, the more right one leans, the more controlling and more prone to use force to keep said control/order. Julian Assange is one such example: People who want him dead, calling for his assassination and all others, when he has not committed any crime, are all right-wingers. Well right or left, a tyrant needs oppression to keep power. It is true for monarchs. It is true for Stalin, Mao, and the numerous other "leftist" dictators. I don't think your left or right distinction is very instructive. The right are bigger power mongers on the international stage. It's natural they see Julian as more of a threat. | ||
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brownthing
United States189 Posts
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TributeBoxer
United States163 Posts
On January 09 2011 11:52 Selith wrote: Generally in political spectrum, the more right one leans, the more controlling and more prone to use force to keep said control/order. Julian Assange is one such example: People who want him dead, calling for his assassination and all others, when he has not committed any crime, are all right-wingers. LOL. The left sees the world as problems and government programs that need to be created to fix them. In college, any discussion about society would include a liberal telling how we need a government program or law to fix that. The Left is way more controlling. They advocate destroying free speech they don't like. All I see in this thread is complaining how the Rights free speech is too mean. They dont care that President Obama told his supporters to "punish their enemies" and "get in their face". How about condemning the President for irresponsibility first before private citizens | ||
Selith
United States238 Posts
On January 09 2011 12:08 TributeBoxer wrote: LOL. The left sees the world as problems and government programs that need to be created to fix them. In college, any discussion about society would include a liberal telling how we need a government program or law to fix that. The Left is way more controlling. They advocate destroying free speech they don't like. All I see in this thread is complaining how the Rights free speech is too mean. They dont care that President Obama told his supporters to "punish their enemies" and "get in their face". How about condemning the President for irresponsibility first before private citizens Truth to be said, USA's so-called "leftists" are not left at all. Democrats are center-left, and Republicans are center-right. If you wish to see truly more varied political spectrum, check out European politics. | ||
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Endbringer
United States111 Posts
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
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Endbringer
United States111 Posts
On January 09 2011 12:08 TributeBoxer wrote: LOL. The left sees the world as problems and government programs that need to be created to fix them. In college, any discussion about society would include a liberal telling how we need a government program or law to fix that. The Left is way more controlling. They advocate destroying free speech they don't like. All I see in this thread is complaining how the Rights free speech is too mean. They dont care that President Obama told his supporters to "punish their enemies" and "get in their face". How about condemning the President for irresponsibility first before private citizens Is there a video of President Obama saying this? I don't remember it happening and I would be interested in seeing it. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27148 Posts
![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0viO-Dm52sM/SS0f3-39cfI/AAAAAAAAKPY/LCL1ygeEmBY/s400/The+Political+Circle.jpg) For those people who slept through first year political science... | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
People need to stop arguing over whose policies he followed and just accept that he was a sick man who did terrible things. (and yes, I know I'll probably get called out for the post I made earlier. However, the discussion was a lot less crazy back then). | ||
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esperanto
Germany357 Posts
On January 09 2011 11:39 TanGeng wrote: The BlueDog Democrats aren't popular with the Rep. base or the Dem. base. They hold a more centrist position. This could have been motivated from left or right. Based on the youtube page and his favorite books list, it looks more like violence of the leftist type. While a tragedy, I can't help but feel like this is only the beginning of we will see in violence against politicians. A lot of people aren't happy with the way things are going, and Washington is out of ideas on how to make it appear painless for people around the country and kick the can down the road. Loughner's weird reading list: youtube Its weird to see ppl here try to point fingers in specific political directions. Problem is, there is a huge anti-government mentality in US atm and this can result in redical behavior and some politicians of the Republicans are using this mentality to push their agenda. Btw. how does this look like a "leftist" type to you? I mean communist manifesto and Mein Kampf, he also made statements against immigrants and he considered himself an atheist... Hard to see any specific political motivation here. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On January 09 2011 12:25 BrownBear wrote: Why the hell does it matter whether he's a leftist nut or a rightist nut? He's still a nut who tragically shot and killed 6 people today, and wounded many others. People need to stop arguing over whose policies he followed and just accept that he was a sick man who did terrible things. (and yes, I know I'll probably get called out for the post I made earlier. However, the discussion was a lot less crazy back then). There's specific groups of people running around with misspelled signs about getting their way via the "second amendment". The woman in question is a democrat in a very red state (apparently not her district however). A democrat holding her position getting shot could very well be politically motivated, that's why it's relevant. | ||
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Endbringer
United States111 Posts
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36033690#36033690 | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
On January 09 2011 12:41 Endbringer wrote: One of his main points is that the army recruiters hand out bibles to soldiers as they sign up and this is a bad thing. I wouldn't go so far as to call that a point because he sort of just mentions it between two other things and it's hard to decipher what the hell he was getting at. Everything seems to come back to him believing that the US federal reserve is some kind of mind control and you should break the spell of the government by making up new words and using gold coins. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
![[image loading]](http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/sarahpac_0.jpg) I think that rhetoric like the above is a big cause of concern. I'll definitely be voting democrat because of this crap. Note that she has the now traumatically brain injured woman's name and a crosshair over her home city. | ||
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Nightfall.589
Canada766 Posts
On January 09 2011 03:48 aike wrote: No, Arizona is the state that can kick you out if you are an illegal immigrant. If you don't have your papers on you they can take you into custody until you can provide them though. You really should have the papers on you at all times anyways, I mean, if you are driving a car you are required to be carrying your drivers license the whole time, it's the same concept. A driver's license verifies that you are capable of operating a vehicle. It is reasonable to expect people to operate a potentially dangerous vehicle to have proof that they are capable of operating it. The police requesting identification papers, for no reason, on the other hand, falls well in the realm of "None of your business." | ||
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.ths
United States57 Posts
On January 09 2011 11:59 419 wrote: “We don’t know if he’s from the lunatic left or the lunatic right. We just see his crazy words.” -Wolf Blitzer One of the rare voices of reason in all this. Although for the most part your posts have irked me, 419, I have to say that first: yes, let's not argue about the political ideology of the probably-batshit-crazy shooter, and second: Wolf Blitzer has an EVEN COOLER name than Bear Grylls. Which means probably the coolest name ever. But seriously, I'm quite liberal as far as voting records go, but even so, just because the congresswoman was democratic does NOT mean that the shooter was some conservative/Tea Party nut (or that he was inspired by the in-retrospectum-tacky Palin "target" poster on her PAC). Almost certainly, someone that disturbed did not fall under any conventional political party's ideals. Although most of the pointless political arguing now is just reactionary, it's really quite meaningless to carry it on. As someone who experienced the general shittiness of any public shooting firsthand at Virginia Tech in 2007, I'll just say that it's far more productive to just accept that he was a fucked up individual and not look too much further into it than that. It's not a constructive argument, and frankly it's not even really relevant either; even if he was a Tea Party supporter (or insert-whichever-organization-you-wish), then he obviously isn't representative of them as a group. What happened is pretty terrible. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected. I urge people on this forum to be more overall sympathetic as opposed to aggressively accusatory--on both sides of the political spectrum. | ||
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