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champignones
Panama160 Posts
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
On January 07 2011 13:58 Helios.Star wrote: There are almost 100,000 vod views for the boxer code s matches alone (on the english site at least), so I don't really think theyre very concerned about popularity. With that many VOD viewers, how many live viewers do you think there were? the last KT vs SKT match in proleague was ranked 4th in national TV ratings, how many live viewers do you think that is? | ||
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
On January 07 2011 14:03 champignones wrote: i am a little confused about all this S code tournament and A tournament, just imagine someone new going to see this tournaments, it will loose interest easilly code s = tourney (well the real tourney kind of starts at ro16), code a = preliminaries for the next tourney basically. kind of wacky but they're cramping this stuff pretty close together it seems. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
IMO blizz needs to get their act together. Better maps will result in consistently better games. Has anyone noticed that the best games are always on meta or shakuras and the worst ones are on steppes? But blizz can be very stubborn, as we all know. | ||
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EsMors
53 Posts
P.S. mprs, thanks for your long post, I enjoyed reading it. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 07 2011 13:44 TrainSamurai wrote: Can someone please explain to me why sc2 players are obsessed with Esports? Seriously it looks like an unhealthy obsession. umm, TL isnt a starcraft 2 site. Its a site dedicated to starcraft pro gaming. The site is built around following professional starcraft. And you wonder why we might stress it a bit? | ||
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On January 07 2011 14:02 rasers wrote: 100,000 VOD VIEWS? OMFG THIS GAME IS OUR FUCKING HOPE srsly wtf? 100k online views who the fuck cares? its not much... 100,000 on the ENGLISH site in less than two days is a lot... Too many angry BW fanboys in here who want SC2 to die for some reason to argue about it though | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On January 07 2011 13:50 Waxangel wrote: GomTV are in a situation where their success will be measured against OnGameNet, MBCGame, and the Brood War e-Sports model in general. They are partly responsible for this situation, because they have tried to certain aspects of Brood War model whole-scale (they even tried/are trying to get a TV deal). You can't really blame them for this, because it's Stacraft II after all, and there are certain things fans (and perhaps GomTV workers, subconsciously) expect from such a word. And on paper at least, you want to emulate the most successful e-Sports model that has existed so far in Korea. It's a real trap for GomTV. Benchmarking yourself against a high quality product can definitely be a good way to improve the quality of your own product, but you run the risk of being perceived as a not-quite-as-good imitation. There's more to it than that though. This is GOM Tv's problem but only in the most superficial way. I wouldn't trust Gom Tv to run a hot dog stand, and giving them exclusive rights to the most famous RTS lineage in history never seemed like a sound business decision to begin with. As usual this goes back to the way that Blizzard approached (or shunned, perhaps) the whole idea of Starcraft as an esport. They clearly have either never understood it, or have never cared for it. Were the Korean esports scene important to them, they wouldn't have ham-handedly tried to shut down the BW scene, nor would they have entrusted the success of Sc2 to an officious and cumbersome company that continues to make elementary business mistakes despite having a massive ten year case study to examine. The lack of success for Sc2 at this moment has little to do with time, money, or exposure, and everything to do with a malignant lack of interest from Activision Blizzard. EDIT: And lets not forget that this pertains to competition outside of Korea as well. A lack of LAN support crippled MLG Dallas, the tremendously long waiting time apparently required to get permission to host a Sc2 tournament, and the fact that TL has to get user's guest accounts every time we host a TL open... What do they even do over there? | ||
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Phelix
1931 Posts
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On January 07 2011 14:08 happyness wrote: Maybe sc2 isn't as fun to watch for people who don't play the game. IMO blizz needs to get their act together. Better maps will result in consistently better games. Has anyone noticed that the best games are always on meta or shakuras and the worst ones are on steppes? But blizz can be very stubborn, as we all know. As stubborn as a mule. Oh shiit. But seriously they are going at it in a slow manner, cause they obviously dont wanna screw up in the process of it, which would give bad reputation on their behalf. | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
On January 07 2011 14:02 rasers wrote: 100,000 VOD VIEWS? OMFG THIS GAME IS OUR FUCKING HOPE srsly wtf? 100k online views who the fuck cares? its not much... yeah I'm on a Boat and I just had sex has 2 million views so it's not much.. Still I'm pretty optimistic that SC 2 will get bigger. Just needs to change some stuff like new maps and non cheesy plays | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On January 07 2011 14:10 Helios.Star wrote: 100,000 on the ENGLISH site in less than two days is a lot... Too many angry BW fanboys in here who want SC2 to die for some reason to argue about it though no i just dont get how that is much? :D | ||
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Hokay
United States738 Posts
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dras
Kazakhstan376 Posts
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Griffith`
714 Posts
On January 07 2011 14:14 Epithet wrote: No splash heavy damage units = No WOWHOLYSHIT factors in SC2 = death of GSL I loled. Gotta admit, reaver drops, lurker holds, vulture mine drags, etc. were fucking epic moments, a lot more so than... herp derp banelings roll into 50 marines over and over again. | ||
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Befree
695 Posts
Both games are awesome to play and watch. And I don't think we should let things like viewership take away from our joy of watching them. If only 2 other people played Starcraft, I'd still be there observing them. Just keep a positive attitude, and have some fun. Starcraft will still be there no matter what happens. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
I think if Gom were to start a proleague with like 4 1v1's and an ace match just like bw and then individual leagues with that. I think that would increase popularity a lot but here goes to wishing for that style again... | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On January 07 2011 14:19 dras wrote: honestly, most of the games and players are not very good....trust me, I've seen almost all of them. Okay.. i trust you.. because noone else in this forum would have watched the games.. especially not almost all of them!!!! :O /sarcasm The players are just implementing the most effective strategies available to them at this time; there have been some epic moments, there have been some lame moments.. as there were in any other competitive game.. | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
The other factors are the players.I can honestly say that SC2 will have a huge jump in popularity if the likes of Flash or Jaedong switch over prompting majority of their own fans to switch over . Right now , the only major crowd pullers in sc2 are obviously boxer and nada who themselves find it hard to reach the Final stages of the Tourneys . | ||
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