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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
August 09 2010 20:27 GMT
#61
Just follow this video:

Hates Fun🤔
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
August 09 2010 20:36 GMT
#62
On August 10 2010 05:20 sikyon wrote:
Protip: If you're not wearing a $300 shirt or you're not jacked, you should never target an alpha female and try to pick her up. Alphas don't go to bars to get picked up by guys, they go out to pick guys to go home with. There are girls who are desperate, low self esteem, etc and those are the ones you should target. But make sure to get the approval of the alpha they are friends with first.

Honestly this is 10x eaisier if you are good looking and 10x eaisier if you are rich (and 100x if you are both). Well maybe not 10, but at least 3 or 4.


Money doesn't mean shit. Looks doesn't mean shit. You are under social conditioning. Regular, normal women don't give a shit about your money or your looks. But if you're in Vegas, hell yeah, money and looks get you far... in those places. But seriously, you wanna date those girls?

And the "Alpha female" is the girls you befriend because she is the one who decides if you get to fuck her friends or not. Befriend the leader of the group, and you have a green light to stick your dick anywhere you want.
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 20:44:43
August 09 2010 20:37 GMT
#63
On August 10 2010 03:57 KudoJoe wrote:
..but we don't go up to a girl and start dancing with her out of nowhere. That is considered very rude in Korea. So we just dance by ourselves or in groups just to have fun.

Hm, I should really work on my English again.


SORRY? What?? 그럼 도데체 부비부비 뭔데?

For people unfamiliar, '부비부비' (boobi-boobi) is the Korean term for Korean style grinding. Generally, it's where a Korean guy goes up to a completely unsuspecting Korean girl from behind (because they all dance facing one way in Korea), holds her by the waist and starts grinding her. This happens everywhere in every Korean club I have been to. I'm not talking about Itaewon clubs which are full are idiot foreigners, but "proper" Korean clubs in Hongdae and Gangnam. Most Korean guys do exactly what you say they don't! Yes, the grinding isn't as explicit as in foreign clubs, but at least its normally initially consensual.....

I must add though that Korean girls who have been to clubs a few times fully expect this behaviour from K guys. I remember asking a few girls why they tolerated it because in foreign clubs, a guy would get a elbow to the face in the best case and a charge of sexual assault in the worst. They all answered that they didn't mind as long the guy was cute.... in other words, its just accepted. Even when the girls turn round and see an ugly ass ajosshi, theyll normally just walk off without too much of a fuss.

Btw, I completely agree with you that to Koreans, clubs are generally for dancing whereas "night clubs" are definitely the places to go to meet the opposite sex. But to go back to the OP, he will need patience, decent Korean skills and a shit tonne of money to succeed in nightclubs.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 20:43:19
August 09 2010 20:41 GMT
#64
What world are you on? Everyone is always concerned about finances. "What do you do?" Has got to be one of the most typical questions you get at any nightclub. As long as you are happy, sure then everything is peaches and oranges, but everyone will always worry about money. Some more than others as you said. Gold diggers, meh. We have plenty of those where I am from.

The expression you are looking for in English is cock block, but those aren't very difficult to get around.
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
August 09 2010 20:43 GMT
#65
Dude, as long as you have a stable job and a stable income, being a millionaire is irrelevant. As long as you aren't living on the street, money doesn't do shit unless you're talking about gold diggers.
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
August 09 2010 20:45 GMT
#66
You don't go to a club to get a date, you go to a club to get laid. Hence why all the talk about "finding the "right" girl" and dissing the slutty ones are pretty funny. At least in Sweden nightclubs are basicaly whorehouses. If you want a relationship that lasts longer then a week or to just have a good time with friends you go to a place where there are more tables and where the dancefloor is not very lively.

I mean, it is impossible to not pick up slutty girls in clubs since the volume makes any attempt of conversation futile and the only things you can do is look good and buy expensive drinks.
sikyon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1045 Posts
August 09 2010 20:47 GMT
#67
On August 10 2010 05:23 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 04:38 sikyon wrote:
Ok... the key to this does not lie in your approach. You can have the slickest, swuavest approach to a girl and then get rejected because she's in a commited relationship.

My point? It's not in how you approach the girl, it's in what kind of girl you approach. And to be honest a big part of that is in what kinds of clubs you choose to go to.

I guess since this is a starcraft website, it would be apt to say that it doesn't matter how good your roach micro is, you're still gonna get owned by void rays.


There's a lot more to it than that. Many women use the "I have a BF" spiel as a way of telling you to fuck off. It's their safety net. In some cases sure, they actually do have a boyfriend and in many cases it isn't serious if he isn't there with her. Case in point it's an excuse and if you are an alpha male you know this and make a rebuttal, "Listen, I'm not here to talk about your problems. I'm here to have a good time!" Blah, blah, blah. You raise one good point though. You have to be receptive to the kind of girl in front of you to lure them in and the type of nightclub you end up in. Some techniques won't work on some women and vice versa.

This is why I don't like using 'common practice techniques' or pickup lines because you have about 5 seconds to break the ice and find out what kind of girl you are dealing with through their body language and not much more. Only advice I can give is be confident in your choices and be natural, open yourself up to them through your body language (i.e. don't ever cross your shoulders in a nightclub - closed, people see this and think you aren't having a good time; keep your drink at your side - makes you accessible). You'll be a lot happier that way.


You guys are reading too much into my opening lines. I said that some girls are infact impossible to reach and you will need to pick your location. Yes, they will give you the "I have a BF" line to let you down easy. But if you spend you're time trying to go after a girl who's told you she has a BF you're wasting it. You've already been rejected, and it's probably a better use of your time to find some other fish.

You lot seem to think that basically it's your job to woo and coerce a woman into letting you take her home with you. That's a friggin uphill battle. Women who go to bars to get laid will pick men to do it with. Women who do not go to bars to get laid and are looking to maybe meet someone... that's a much harder fight as you can imagine. And a woman who is just going to have fun with her friends? You had better be prince charming.

Don't set yourself a goal of some girl and just go after her, regardless of whether or not it will be a hard fight. Just try and figure out which expo is exposed and which expo is locked down by a tank line and hit the eaisier one.

And of course, if you're looking for a commited relationship you probably shouldn't be in a bar doing so anyways.

StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 09 2010 20:48 GMT
#68
Don't call me dude. I'm not your dude.

Here's the thing. You brought up something that should be obvious yet you keep driving home the obvious points. The guy isn't asking about gold diggers. He's asking, "How do I get a girl to grind up against me in Korea."
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 20:52:52
August 09 2010 20:50 GMT
#69
On August 10 2010 05:47 sikyon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 05:23 StarStruck wrote:
On August 10 2010 04:38 sikyon wrote:
Ok... the key to this does not lie in your approach. You can have the slickest, swuavest approach to a girl and then get rejected because she's in a commited relationship.

My point? It's not in how you approach the girl, it's in what kind of girl you approach. And to be honest a big part of that is in what kinds of clubs you choose to go to.

I guess since this is a starcraft website, it would be apt to say that it doesn't matter how good your roach micro is, you're still gonna get owned by void rays.


There's a lot more to it than that. Many women use the "I have a BF" spiel as a way of telling you to fuck off. It's their safety net. In some cases sure, they actually do have a boyfriend and in many cases it isn't serious if he isn't there with her. Case in point it's an excuse and if you are an alpha male you know this and make a rebuttal, "Listen, I'm not here to talk about your problems. I'm here to have a good time!" Blah, blah, blah. You raise one good point though. You have to be receptive to the kind of girl in front of you to lure them in and the type of nightclub you end up in. Some techniques won't work on some women and vice versa.

This is why I don't like using 'common practice techniques' or pickup lines because you have about 5 seconds to break the ice and find out what kind of girl you are dealing with through their body language and not much more. Only advice I can give is be confident in your choices and be natural, open yourself up to them through your body language (i.e. don't ever cross your shoulders in a nightclub - closed, people see this and think you aren't having a good time; keep your drink at your side - makes you accessible). You'll be a lot happier that way.


You guys are reading too much into my opening lines. I said that some girls are infact impossible to reach and you will need to pick your location. Yes, they will give you the "I have a BF" line to let you down easy. But if you spend you're time trying to go after a girl who's told you she has a BF you're wasting it. You've already been rejected, and it's probably a better use of your time to find some other fish.

You lot seem to think that basically it's your job to woo and coerce a woman into letting you take her home with you. That's a friggin uphill battle. Women who go to bars to get laid will pick men to do it with. Women who do not go to bars to get laid and are looking to maybe meet someone... that's a much harder fight as you can imagine. And a woman who is just going to have fun with her friends? You had better be prince charming.

Don't set yourself a goal of some girl and just go after her, regardless of whether or not it will be a hard fight. Just try and figure out which expo is exposed and which expo is locked down by a tank line and hit the eaisier one.

And of course, if you're looking for a commited relationship you probably shouldn't be in a bar doing so anyways.



Nope. My friends are living proof that every girl out there is on the market. Sorry to break it to you boss. Many people find this kind of catch intriguing and a good chase. You are entitled to your opinion though. You see it as an uphill battle; others don't even give it a second thought.

Whether it be based on your values or beliefs. This is what separates many of the alpha males from the other guys.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
August 09 2010 21:05 GMT
#70
rofl this is turning into an amateur PUA thread. just go to the experts man. to whoever suggest RSD, i really wasn't that impressed.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
KudoJoe
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)66 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 21:10:43
August 09 2010 21:10 GMT
#71
On August 10 2010 05:37 Elric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 03:57 KudoJoe wrote:
..but we don't go up to a girl and start dancing with her out of nowhere. That is considered very rude in Korea. So we just dance by ourselves or in groups just to have fun.

Hm, I should really work on my English again.


SORRY? What?? 그럼 도데체 부비부비 뭔데?

For people unfamiliar, '부비부비' (boobi-boobi) is the Korean term for Korean style grinding. Generally, it's where a Korean guy goes up to a completely unsuspecting Korean girl from behind (because they all dance facing one way in Korea), holds her by the waist and starts grinding her. This happens everywhere in every Korean club I have been to. I'm not talking about Itaewon clubs which are full are idiot foreigners, but "proper" Korean clubs in Hongdae and Gangnam. Most Korean guys do exactly what you say they don't! Yes, the grinding isn't as explicit as in foreign clubs, but at least its normally initially consensual.....

I must add though that Korean girls who have been to clubs a few times fully expect this behaviour from K guys. I remember asking a few girls why they tolerated it because in foreign clubs, a guy would get a elbow to the face in the best case and a charge of sexual assault in the worst. They all answered that they didn't mind as long the guy was cute.... in other words, its just accepted. Even when the girls turn round and see an ugly ass ajosshi, theyll normally just walk off without too much of a fuss.

Btw, I completely agree with you that to Koreans, clubs are generally for dancing whereas "night clubs" are definitely the places to go to meet the opposite sex. But to go back to the OP, he will need patience, decent Korean skills and a shit tonne of money to succeed in nightclubs.


Haha boobi-boobi...I forgot about that. We used to 부비부비 a lot when we had fake ID's in high school and go to clubs with the all the nunas. I tend to think that 부비부비 is for old ahjushis though who want some action and not for the cultured clubbers.

Moop
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden50 Posts
August 09 2010 21:21 GMT
#72
On August 10 2010 05:15 muse5187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 04:45 SolHeiM wrote:
Yeah, but then the chance a woman you meet in a night club actually having a boyfriend is much lower than a woman you would meet on the street, because women go to night clubs because they are single and looking for dick. At least, most of them do.


That's one hell of an assumption there.


More like basic human biology
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
August 09 2010 21:23 GMT
#73
On August 10 2010 06:21 Moop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 05:15 muse5187 wrote:
On August 10 2010 04:45 SolHeiM wrote:
Yeah, but then the chance a woman you meet in a night club actually having a boyfriend is much lower than a woman you would meet on the street, because women go to night clubs because they are single and looking for dick. At least, most of them do.


That's one hell of an assumption there.


More like basic human biology


Yes oh wise one, biology says women go to social gatherings to fuck.
fOrQQ
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Hong Kong321 Posts
August 09 2010 21:24 GMT
#74
Came to thread expecting Rekrul.

I am disappoint.
Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
August 09 2010 21:24 GMT
#75
On August 10 2010 05:08 Chill wrote:
I can't believe you used the word freaking LOL

Can we please have an addendum to the Ten Commandments that everybody that uses the word freaking in this context gets a perm ban? Please? It just creeps me out
Life is to give and take. You take a vacation and you give to the poor.
Moop
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden50 Posts
August 09 2010 21:29 GMT
#76
On August 10 2010 06:23 muse5187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:21 Moop wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:15 muse5187 wrote:
On August 10 2010 04:45 SolHeiM wrote:
Yeah, but then the chance a woman you meet in a night club actually having a boyfriend is much lower than a woman you would meet on the street, because women go to night clubs because they are single and looking for dick. At least, most of them do.


That's one hell of an assumption there.


More like basic human biology


Yes oh wise one, biology says women go to social gatherings to fuck.


Yes I believe biology says women go to social gatherings to find a partner that they will fuck.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 21:32:24
August 09 2010 21:31 GMT
#77
On August 10 2010 05:48 StarStruck wrote:
Don't call me dude. I'm not your dude.


lol.


Nope. My friends are living proof that every girl out there is on the market. Sorry to break it to you boss. Many people find this kind of catch intriguing and a good chase. You are entitled to your opinion though. You see it as an uphill battle; others don't even give it a second thought.

Whether it be based on your values or beliefs. This is what separates many of the alpha males from the other guys.


lololol

Im not an alpha male?
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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
August 09 2010 21:41 GMT
#78
^ you make the alpha male look weak
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 09 2010 21:49 GMT
#79
Mani you MANTOSS.

Like Amnesia said that makes you above anything with the word "Alpha" in it.
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 22:00:08
August 09 2010 21:53 GMT
#80
On August 10 2010 02:07 zeks wrote:
So many people do that in clubs here (Toronto) too - for reference I'm 20 and most of the clubs I go to have a demographic of 19-22 and yeah guys just sneak behind girls and flank them from behind. A lot of guys just want some cheap ass grinding action not even gonna bother to start a conversation


How did it ever come to this? I've been hearing about "grinding" and once at some trance club a girl came up to me and started doing it, I felt super uncomfortable because I had no idea what to do in return. So I tried to somehow dance with her while she was rubbing at my dick, probably looked retarded. I tried to walk away as soon as possible only to notice her go to another guy do the same thing while he just stood there. Man, it was never like that when I was growing up, you had to know how to dance if you wanted to dance in front of people (unless you were shitfaced). This grinding culture is disgusting!
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
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