EPTOn the other hand, a none believer might have a wonderful life here, if christianity is true though, they are screwed once they die, and if they were right, and there is nothing beyond death, there dead. I guess this doesn't totally work as there are probably people with other obsure beliefs, and reincarnation etc
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VdP]TwistedEcho
United Kingdom847 Posts
On the other hand, a none believer might have a wonderful life here, if christianity is true though, they are screwed once they die, and if they were right, and there is nothing beyond death, there dead. I guess this doesn't totally work as there are probably people with other obsure beliefs, and reincarnation etc | ||
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baal
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On May 31 2004 19:42 VdP]TwistedEcho wrote: is it just me, or do christians ultimately win? If your a christian, a true one, you really, really beleive, so will be content with living a life dictated by the bible. If you die and you were right, you go to heaven. If you were wrong, your dead, so guess what, you won't care! On the other hand, a none believer might have a wonderful life here, if christianity is true though, they are screwed once they die, and if they were right, and there is nothing beyond death, there dead. I guess this doesn't totally work as there are probably people with other obsure beliefs, and reincarnation etc If i truely belive in an allmighty pink elephant i'd ultimately win... anyway it DOESNT make it any more real -___________- BTW just went to have dinner and this has another page, one of the fastest growing threads  | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
I really hope he sends me to hell so that I can enlist in the army and fight against God for eternity. I want him to suffer with pain just as much as we've had to suffer for him putting us on this planet. Im not talking about the people who live good lives without suffering like you and me and the rest of this forum, im talking about the billions of people everyday who wake up to a life of hopeless shit. I dont believe in any ideal humanity has created himself. Humans created God therefore there will always be flaws about God. If humans stopped believing in God, God would disappear and cease to exist. However, God was never a 'thing' he was just a made up concept thanks to human imagination. Just my worthless ranting. | ||
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baal
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and if im sent to hell, ill help you build an army to fuck that bastard... considering that only __________ (insert your stupid religion here) belivers are going to heaven and the rest to the hell, we have a big number advantage hahahahaha If god existed he wouldnt let me exist > | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Exactly Baal, the more people that dont believe the better. More will go to hell and before you know, heaven is all empty. Then maybe God will start using his head again since the creation and think "hmmmm, I really fucked up bad". Edit: See you in hell | ||
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I_are_n00b
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LaptopLegacy
Netherlands602 Posts
1) what was the first prophecy 2) name 3 people in Jesus' line with the exception of his father, adam, eve, and abel 3) what is the purpose of the earth 4) who was the author of the books of: 1st corinthians, 1st Timothy, and Psalms 5) When was the temple destroyed 6) who built the temple 7) who built the tabernacle 8) who is michael 9) name both of abrahams sons 10) to whom did pharoah celebrate a birthday with? and whom did he have hung? 1)Gen3:15 "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." 2)You want Matthew or Luke lineage? Mat (not in Luke): Eleazar - Matthan - Jacob - Josef Luke (not in Mat): Levi - Matthat - Heli - Josef So who was Josefs father anyway? 3)A question open to interpretation. But I'd say to glorify its creator. 4)Paul, Paul, David (for the most part) 5)Which one? The temple of Salomon was destroyed in 586 BC, the temple of Herod (named after him while he didn't start it, but actually greatly expanded it) was destroyed in 70 AD. 6)See above. 7)Bezaleel and Aholiab (under the command of Mozes) 8)There are many Michaels in the bible, but i presume you mean the archangel, commander of the heavenly armies one? 9)Ishmael and Isaac 10)The chief butler. The chief baker. But I don't believe in the existence of the god claimed in your book. I think the only reason people do is because they've been brainwashed with it. I was too for a long time. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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whether or not unknown things exist has an obvious answer in my mind. whether or not a greater power that has a consciousness or any sort of programming is a whole nother question. I tend to question why something with an agenda would create us and then not let us understand it, so im not gonna believe in something with no reason to. | ||
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baal
10502 Posts
On June 01 2004 00:12 LaptopLegacy wrote: 1)Gen3:15 "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." 2)You want Matthew or Luke lineage? Mat (not in Luke): Eleazar - Matthan - Jacob - Josef Luke (not in Mat): Levi - Matthat - Heli - Josef So who was Josefs father anyway? 3)A question open to interpretation. But I'd say to glorify its creator. 4)Paul, Paul, David (for the most part) 5)Which one? The temple of Salomon was destroyed in 586 BC, the temple of Herod (named after him while he didn't start it, but actually greatly expanded it) was destroyed in 70 AD. 6)See above. 7)Bezaleel and Aholiab (under the command of Mozes) 8)There are many Michaels in the bible, but i presume you mean the archangel, commander of the heavenly armies one? 9)Ishmael and Isaac 10)The chief butler. The chief baker. But I don't believe in the existence of the god claimed in your book. I think the only reason people do is because they've been brainwashed with it. I was too for a long time. Oh sorry, i think that test was for me, i didnt see it ._.v anyway it not hard at all. Laptop Legacy you have no idea how good is to find someone who is an atheist BY OWN DECITION, not like those idiots that never even thinked about it, people who really came to the conclussion that there is no god. Its good to know there is still hope for the humans intellectualy speaking | ||
Liquid`Spy
Netherlands1301 Posts
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Liquid`Spy
Netherlands1301 Posts
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Arbiter[frolix]
United Kingdom2674 Posts
God is good. He isn't good because he chooses to be good. He is good because that's the definition of good. Good is God's will. Likewise, evil is against God's will. Nothing can change good and evil. A very interesting thesis. However, if you accept this then you have to accept that by an act of will God could reverse the poles and in an instant everything that was evil would become good. So, for instance, he could make murder 'good', or incest, or *gasp* even map hacking. The notion that any of these acts could be 'good' in some sense strikes me as being unacceptable. Would you accept these consequences of your thesis about the source of goodness? | ||
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NTT (yep)
Netherlands5 Posts
Most christians pride themselves on their faith because they believe that by following a bunch of heavily edited and altered guidelines they will be rewarded in the afterlife. Those guys are untouchable and trying to argue with them is like trying to squeeze water from a rock. Which I'm sure isn't that remarkable a feat if you're Jesus. Once some religious nutbag enters the realm of science though, and there's actual historical, archaelogical and geological evidence to refute basically everything they believe to be true, you can fuck some shit up. You'll make them look stupid, but they won't renounce their faith. Have any of you (christians) even read the bible? It's very convenient to just accept what you're prestented with as fact, but the glaring contradictions and ridiculous stories depicted in this poorly written and extremely boring work of fiction I'm sure would give even the most zealous church-goer at least a moment of doubt. If I was a reasonable man I would probably be an agnostic, but the existence of an omnipotent creator (who somehow seems to need constant praise...) is just so silly a notion that the probability of it being true ranks somewhere in the googoled percentile. Organized religion is the most evil concept ever. Ever. It's responsible for the deaths of quadrillions of people, it preaches intolererance, and it holds back the developement of the human species on a global scale. We're all randomly assembled bits of matter. Out of billions of stars and planet combination ours happened to spawn life. Big whoop. When we die we decompose and we'll be gone. Get a clue, people. -NTT p.s. I'm very bored. Very very bored. | ||
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GrandSmurf
Netherlands462 Posts
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HnR)Nazarene
Denmark171 Posts
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I_are_n00b
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Christianity has no demands other than accepting that Jesus died for you. Christianity is against ritualism, to do something solely for religious purposes. How can it even be counted as a religion? There aren't any demands, you don't have to donate money, no rituals, etc... Unlike everything else in this world, what did the creator of this "religion" have to gain from it? If Jesus created it to be famous, then that means he wanted to get crucified on the cross and live a meager life? And since if Jesus created it, then it'd all be fiction and he wouldn't be saved, so he wouldn't be concious, so what's the point of being famous when he won't know? Christianity states that pride is a sin. So it's not a form of eliteism. Whoever wrote made this religion up must have been retarded from a worldly point of view, since he wouldn't get any gains. What other religion is like this? One that gives you rules and then tells you you've already failed but I passed for you so you don't have to follow them anymore? | ||
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SW)RIF
United States563 Posts
Most importantly, when you ask for forgiveness, dont you have to specifically request and denouce certain sins? If this is the case, those who read the bible.. which is many. Its like punching your god in the face whenever you wear your jacket and jeans to school. And i pity the fool who will apologize for the their jeans, but says to himself "oh its ok, ill pray for myself later" Which in point, would mean you would have no moral restraints, aslong as you can sin and feel sorry for it. | ||
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ObsoleteLogic
United States3676 Posts
Arbiter: Presupposing that an all-good God exists and supposing that He created all things, then it would stand to reason that all things are inherently and completely good in their natural state. Now the actions we refer to as evil are lacking either somewhat or entirely of goodness; all actions have a place and purpose, but its when they are misused that they begin to lack. You see? For instance, sex. Sex with the proper intentions is a fantastic thing. But in the case of rape, well you're lacking both love and consent. You could in turn, see lust as a lack of reason. So evil isn't really something all to itself; its a lack of something good. | ||
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Arbiter[frolix]
United Kingdom2674 Posts
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