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3-1 to Ali.
Lee migth be able to take it with fast and low kicks to the legs but I seriously doubt he has the range to do it.
Just look at K1. Kickboxing migth be the base figthing style of choice but everyone uses guarding from boxing, and most of the people are fucking huge. Punches are also comes from boxing.
Only problem for Ali is that he wouldn't know how to brace himself properly for a kick but on the other hand he has the range and poor Bruce probably wouldn't be able to stop anything going for his face at all.
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Casper. Just because Ali is bigger doesn't fukin mean he's fuckin faster, it means he slower usually, consider how fast a 250lb man can move compared to a 150lb man? Even if its muscle it won't move as fast, it'll hurt more to get hit, but it won't be faster.
edit: Cuddly, Ali probably doesn't have the stamina? He's so big? Look at the big T1 fighter(wtfs his name?) he's wasted in like 5 minutes.
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On May 28 2004 16:38 Casper... wrote:
i never said ali would break lee
i said lee could never successfully attack ali
although he could try
ali would get the better of the two in that scenario
lee wouldnt need to attack ali, lee is faster, more mobile, and has more options as to what to do, ALI would have to attack lee, not the other way around, and as soon as lee sees him coming in ali would most definitely be open at some part of his body.. but thats also irrelevent because you'er wrong in that lee couldnt attack ali. there are so many parts of the body that would be vulnerable, ALI IS A BOXER for gods sake
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
"there is no martial arts training that addresses getting punched in the face, the only training for that is being punched in the face"
for making that statement alone I will discontinue this argument. It is clear you do not have a solid foundation of knowledge in the realm of fighting.
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I have a better question. Who would win in an arm wrestling match, the terminator or robo cop?
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Norway28690 Posts
yeah, grabbing a punch from ali is easy
im not saying that ali would win, I dunno, im not educated on this shit
but size matters a whole lot.
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Bruce Lee obviously, he's the greatest fighter of all time! Took on and almost killed 2 red sashes at one time. Ali would have a hard time even hitting Lee.
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I think in a ring, Ali Vs Lee would be a 100% different fight from Ali vs Lee in a street fight. I dont know much about lee as a fighter, but I know Ali. In the ring at his prime I'm fairly sure Ali would beat lee easy. If ali could block, and avoid lightning fast hooks from fraser. Then he could do the same for Lee kicks, and Lee punchs in all likelihood wont hurt Ali at all. It would only take one good shot to the head for Ali to KO lee also. In a street fight however where u can grapple, and snap each others arms. I put my money on the man who trained for that kinda fighting in Lee(I assuming Lee did train for fighting on the ground).
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On May 28 2004 17:04 ShOoTiNg_SpElLs wrote: Bruce Lee, Ali wouldn't even be able to hit him, Bruce Lee once threw grains of sand in the air and caught them w/ his chopsticks (i think) http://www.mikementzer.com/blee.html
Quote from that link
or sending individuals (who outweighed him by as much as 100 pounds in some instances) flying through the air and landing some 15 feet away as a result of a punch that Lee delivered from only one-inch away
?!?!?!?!?!?!
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On May 28 2004 17:04 ShOoTiNg_SpElLs wrote: Bruce Lee, Ali wouldn't even be able to hit him, Bruce Lee once threw grains of sand in the air and caught them w/ his chopsticks (i think) http://www.mikementzer.com/blee.html
if thats true that would be the most amazing thing i have ever heard in my life lol
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Very hard question.
Pretty sure a lot of people are uneducated about Bruce Lee other than the films he made and therefore jump to the conclusion he could easily beat the quickest and greatest heavyweight champion of all time.
To be honest I don't know  Other than in a ring where I'd go for Ali. Bruce never weighed more than 143 pounds. Height and weight especially are big advantages. On top of that experience in the ring, afaik Bruce never fought any competitive martial arts bouts.
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Kindum_cn you made this topic. Did you mean lee Vs ali in a street fight, or a boxer vs kick boxer match with ali vs lee. I think it matters alot in picking who you think would win
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you know, im starting to think ali would win. Because he has actual real world experience in fighting. Bruce lee might have been a genius when it comes to self-defense, but that doesnt mean he applied it all the time. When you get into a fight its very hard to keep your mind from being flustered and not shocked by the idea of another human hitting you. Getting hit in the face can be very distressing, and ali was used to this day in day out. Lee was not. How often do you think someone got to just wail a full 300-lb/force hook into lee's face? That, and the fact of what really happens in a fight. Usually end up on the ground, and ali is just too heavy and large to struggle with. Lee's only hope would be essentially to get a power kick directly to the head, with a major heigth disadvantage. He was fast and all, but if he misses, it could be over.
Btw, dont listen to all this bullshit i skimmed over about lee kicking punching backs 20 feet into the ceiling and then exploding into a ball of fire. Or creating so much air compression with the velocity of his punch that a cylinder of air would knock someone down without him even touching you. This aint Super Street Fighter Turbo Xeon 4.6. Not even a manmade machine could do that to someone.
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Bruce Lee had a well known Wing Chun Teacher back then called Yip Man.
Among other things he teached him "Chi Sao", a technique to feel the direction of ur enemy's force and direct it away from urself.
So you push your body away from the punch and use your opponent's power for yourself.
It's hard to describe or understand but skilled people can do this even blind.
Power is nothing without control.
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Lee:
Ali:
Marciano>ALL anyways.
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On May 28 2004 17:45 NewbSaibot wrote:
you know, im starting to think ali would win. Because he has actual real world experience in fighting. Bruce lee might have been a genius when it comes to self-defense, but that doesnt mean he applied it all the time. When you get into a fight its very hard to keep your mind from being flustered and not shocked by the idea of another human hitting you. Getting hit in the face can be very distressing, and ali was used to this day in day out. Lee was not. How often do you think someone got to just wail a full 300-lb/force hook into lee's face? That, and the fact of what really happens in a fight. Usually end up on the ground, and ali is just too heavy and large to struggle with. Lee's only hope would be essentially to get a power kick directly to the head, with a major heigth disadvantage. He was fast and all, but if he misses, it could be over.
Btw, dont listen to all this bullshit i skimmed over about lee kicking punching backs 20 feet into the ceiling and then exploding into a ball of fire. Or creating so much air compression with the velocity of his punch that a cylinder of air would knock someone down without him even touching you. This aint Super Street Fighter Turbo Xeon 4.6. Not even a manmade machine could do that to someone.
I thought there was something about chi that allowed you to punch people down without touching them - close distance of course, not that it'd really matter since if you hit them that hard they'd prolly keel over anyways =/.
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Sweden33719 Posts
~Lee said himself that he probably would lose +_+~
+ Lee wasn't that great of a fighter -_-~ Someone on another forum - very knowledgable character, said that Lee barely ever won any of his fights in china town +_+
Then there's size!
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