EPTMohammed Ali vs Bruce Lee - Page 4
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On May 28 2004 16:13 taeWook wrote: I think it would be more even if you matched up bruce against jet li/donny yen/van damme/stallone/arnold at the same time.  Not fair to group Jet Li together with those people +_+ Although he probably knows just about as much about fighting, but he was the very best in Wushu Talou competition.. An elite athlete unlike the rest! | ||
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On May 28 2004 16:34 0_0 wrote: also, when Ali punches Lee could easily grab the punch and attack at the same time - defend and attack at the same time, from Wing Chun again. edit: Basically I'm saying, more muscle mass doesn't mean better. Its like the big super buff body builder guys. Would they win a fight? Hell no, they get worn out way faster and are slow, someone like Lee would have WAY better stamina. Listen, you can't grab a boxing punch. Anyways, my first post on this subject > all your arguments :/ | ||
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Will Smith as Ali > Bruce Lee | ||
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On May 28 2004 16:36 Tien wrote: Superior mobility? Bruce lee studied Ali's video tapes INTENSELY and mimmicked his exact footwork. I would say both have equal footwork and mobility. The disadvantage is in the fact that Ali has NO IDEA how to kick or receive a kick. HE HAS NEVER BEEN KICKED IN HIS LIFE! EVER! What makes you think Lee is gonna try and punch Ali??? Lee will kick the shit out of him And you think Ali could break Lee easily? Have you read anything about Bruce Lee? I have studied both fighters intensively and lemme tell you, the more you educate yourself about Bruce lee, the more you are convinced he was way ahead of his time. He was way ahead of a lot of people at the time, indeed he was. But! Ali had immense amounts of experience, mimmicking someones footwork, and being the man behind the footwork is two different things. Look, I can mimmick yellows play, do you think I could match up to him in ZvZ? Forms/Mimmicking = watching replays only you gain even less o_o | ||
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On May 28 2004 16:52 [pG]RaGe wrote: Bruce Lee obviously, he's the greatest fighter of all time! Took on and almost killed 2 red sashes at one time. Ali would have a hard time even hitting Lee. http://www.sherdog.com http://www.geoffthompson.com or .net or whatever -_- Reality fighting hi oo; | ||
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On May 28 2004 17:03 InToTheWannaB wrote: I think in a ring, Ali Vs Lee would be a 100% different fight from Ali vs Lee in a street fight. I dont know much about lee as a fighter, but I know Ali. In the ring at his prime I'm fairly sure Ali would beat lee easy. If ali could block, and avoid lightning fast hooks from fraser. Then he could do the same for Lee kicks, and Lee punchs in all likelihood wont hurt Ali at all. It would only take one good shot to the head for Ali to KO lee also. In a street fight however where u can grapple, and snap each others arms. I put my money on the man who trained for that kinda fighting in Lee(I assuming Lee did train for fighting on the ground). 'If you don't have anything nice to say about a person you shouldn't say anything at all' - Gene LeBell about Bruce Lee's grappling ability. Most boxers come from pretty rough enviorment, his reality fighting experience is probably not too bad :[ | ||
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On May 28 2004 17:09 Eniram wrote: Quote from that link ?!?!?!?!?!?! That's bull, he could make them fall in the dojo/shows indeed he could. Not a very practical punch though -_-~ | ||
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On May 28 2004 17:12 FBS1 wrote: Very hard question. Pretty sure a lot of people are uneducated about Bruce Lee other than the films he made and therefore jump to the conclusion he could easily beat the quickest and greatest heavyweight champion of all time. To be honest I don't know Other than in a ring where I'd go for Ali. Bruce never weighed more than 143 pounds. Height and weight especially are big advantages. On top of that experience in the ring, afaik Bruce never fought any competitive martial arts bouts.He did some boxing in hong kong~ | ||
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copy paste x 100 000 000 The casper's posts in this topic is seriously probably the funniest shit I've ever read. And I don't really disagree with him ahahahahahaha | ||
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On May 28 2004 17:48 ZeItL wrote: Bruce Lee had a well known Wing Chun Teacher back then called Yip Man. Among other things he teached him "Chi Sao", a technique to feel the direction of ur enemy's force and direct it away from urself. So you push your body away from the punch and use your opponent's power for yourself. It's hard to describe or understand but skilled people can do this even blind. Power is nothing without control. Chi Sao generally works like shit in real fights and even as a sensibility excersise most people I've talked to see it as a waste of time. | ||
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On May 28 2004 17:49 0_0 wrote: I thought there was something about chi that allowed you to punch people down without touching them - close distance of course, not that it'd really matter since if you hit them that hard they'd prolly keel over anyways =/. http://www.angelfire.com/oz/bscdthrasher1/ http://www.angelfire.com/oz/bscdthrasher2/ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^_______^;; Btw, yes chi exists. No chi doesn't make you explode in a red ball of fire  This isn't dragonball Z -_- You can't do no touch knockouts to a person who's resisting. | ||
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On May 28 2004 17:54 0_0 wrote: In confined space its possible that Ali using his superior size may win, but otherwise I doubt it. Also Frozenarbiter, I think Lee was being modest when he said that, I mean who would say I am the greatest?(other than Ali t_t). He said something like 'He's just too big and fast for me'. He also said: "If Ali could kick, he'd be invincible". | ||
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On May 28 2004 18:07 ZeItL wrote: Depends on the people you talk to I guess Professional fighters, riot cops, british self defence gurus. | ||
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On May 28 2004 18:09 GoSexyPerli wrote: i hate to say it, but Bruce lee would win. He would, as he said himself, lose +_+ | ||
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On May 28 2004 16:12 sKy.Fennix wrote: Tien, agreed. Jeet Kun Do is roughly based on kicks to the groin, finger jabs and slaps to the ear. sooo effective in self-defence. gogo Bruce! *jeet kune do* | ||
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