Yeah, the thing that pisses me off the most is that we knew he was BS from the beginning, but we still got screwed. My brother told my parents to wait for the check to clear, but my dad insisted that because the bank already handed us the money, it already cleared. God, this is stupid. We knew he was BS, but they thought they check was real. -_-

Basically, I feel like a genius who lost in a game of chess against a retard.

amat

United States1788 Posts

May 16 2004 14:11 GMT

#43

First thing in the morning you should contact the nearest FBI office. Explain to them what you think may have happened and hope for the best. Maybe they can get an agent up to that Toronto address. It seems to be a mistake that he gave you an address rather than asking for another moneygram or whatever.

Your biggest problem is with the bank. They should be sympathetic and work out a payment plan with you rather than filing charges. You need to get to them before they figure out they were screwed, or their response may be to file first and talk later.

Good luck.

YoMeR

United States263 Posts

May 16 2004 14:21 GMT

#44

Fuck the "mike williams" guy. Wow i just had that feeling he wasn't legit at all. God I have been out smarted by a moron. So what does that make me?

Klogon

MURICA15980 Posts

May 16 2004 14:27 GMT

#45

Well the thing about our bank (Bank of America) is that they won't file charges, instead they will directly withdraw all the funds directly. So the account will have $13,100 subtracted from it, and we already withdrew $6,000 which makes us that much in the negative. The account will be closed within 60 days unless we get a loan and put some money in there. So gay.

Amnesty

United States2054 Posts

May 16 2004 14:41 GMT

#46

You still have all the money right? So, if they don't file charges and just ask for the cash back it wont be much trouble?

tAi

78 Posts

May 16 2004 14:41 GMT

#47

keep the money idiot, hes obviously not gonna come kill you... hes a dumb ESL criminal.

Zoom

1111 Posts

May 16 2004 14:41 GMT

#48

You guys should have sold your car the normal way..you know the way where you meet the person, and he hands you the money, and you hand him the keys, and your both happy, and nobody gets arrested!

Klogon

MURICA15980 Posts

May 16 2004 14:46 GMT

#49

tAi, the $6000 is already sent. We assumed the bank cleared the check when the bank account showed a huge increase in funds, but that isn't so. So we are down $6000...

TLKiD

China1136 Posts

May 16 2004 15:06 GMT

#50

Was he pretending to be a handicapped english speaker or sumthing?

TLKiD

China1136 Posts

May 16 2004 15:08 GMT

#51

On May 16 2004 18:49 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Yeah talk to the authorities (FBI). You can even direct them to this forum thread so you don't constantly have to repeat yourself.

That story sure was funny though. hahahaha.

"MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY! YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!"

ahah

taeWook

United States1367 Posts

May 16 2004 15:26 GMT

#52

Klogon, are you starving to death? Is there a huge medical bill you need to take care of? From what Ive read, you have a comfortable life with a loving family. You can always make more money, but it only takes a illegal act to send you, or a member of your family to prison. Plus you still have the car? In that sense you've lost nothing, and gained everything. The knowledge of learning how to deal with these situations, so you dont make the same mistake again. I would say that is much better than a spare 6000.

Klogon

MURICA15980 Posts

May 16 2004 15:31 GMT

#53

No, we already lost $6000. And yes, there is are huge medical bills we need to pay (my brother's surgeries costed hella losts), a car was wrecked a few months ago, I was hospitalized and costs 2 grand, and some other things, but it's not like we were out to get illegal money. We just wanted to sell a car and buy a new one. It just happened that this guy sent us a huge check, and we were almost certain there was soemthing very wrong witht he transation. My dad just got the wrong impression that the check was indeed legitimate thus maybe making the buyer sincere as well. So basically we had it all figured out, the only thing that screwed us was the misconception that the check cleared and was legitimate. So at first we thought we had noting to lose and everything to gain (I mean he sends us the huge check, right?), but we were wrong. And we lost 6 grand.

RushTHElarvA

449 Posts

May 16 2004 15:32 GMT

#54

Umm..............hello "spare 6000" ?!?!?!?!? who does that...

Klogon

MURICA15980 Posts

May 16 2004 15:32 GMT

#55

Bwt, we talked to the FBI and thanks to the Patriot Act, we might be able to track down the money to see where it went. I mean we very well might have funded some damn terrorists.

lefty

United States1896 Posts

May 16 2004 15:43 GMT

#56

NUKED

taeWook

United States1367 Posts

May 16 2004 15:46 GMT

#57

Oops my bad. That really sucks for you guys. Hope you find the culprits, best luck to you and your family.

Countdown

1217 Posts

May 17 2004 02:18 GMT

#58

On May 16 2004 23:46 Klogon wrote:
tAi, the $6000 is already sent. We assumed the bank cleared the check when the bank account showed a huge increase in funds, but that isn't so. So we are down $6000...

If you have enough money in your account to cover the check, they will take the money out of your account and give it to you, and they will put the check there in it's place. So you are left with a bad check in your account. Just about everyone knows it takes some time for the check to clear, so you probably learned a good lesson T_T

I suggest you start saving all these emails and telephone calls between this guy, in case they track him down. If you have no evidence of the 6k even being sent, and the car is still in your name, then there is almost no way to link him to you, other then the emails. He probably spoke gibberish intentionally, so it will be easier to deny in court. As of right now, it looks like you just stole an $11k cashiers check and cashed it. Nothing more.

P.S. everyone I know thinks you are stupid

DV8

United States1623 Posts

May 17 2004 04:56 GMT

#59

On May 16 2004 20:40 Klogon wrote:
It's going to suck if they cops come into my house and search the computer for some clues like the e-mails and such. All my programs, anime, movies, and music that I pirated.. haha. Also "Poker Stars" on my desktop and poker forums that are book marked.

Actually they take your comp as evidence and keep it.

koehli

Germany350 Posts

May 17 2004 05:36 GMT

#60

On May 16 2004 22:01 Klogon wrote:
Yeah, the thing that pisses me off the most is that we knew he was BS from the beginning, but we still got screwed. My brother told my parents to wait for the check to clear, but my dad insisted that because the bank already handed us the money, it already cleared. God, this is stupid. We knew he was BS, but they thought they check was real. -_-

Basically, I feel like a genius who lost in a game of chess against a retard.

Can happen to the best of us. These tricksters all have one common scheme, they make you greedy / stress you out (MONEY MONEY MONEY, funny accent you don't understand, shouting) then your brain stops working and you get tricked like the last imbecile :/ I've had some crooks try something similar (on the 50 $ scale, but still ...) on my father and me and man, it's hard to not fall for it.

As it's a common scheme at least you won't get jailed, laws in Germany would give you a maximum penalty of up to five years, don't know if American law is very much more lenient ... Well, just don't try to make up the loss by helping some African politician get his money transferred to America ;-(