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Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-16 14:29:18
May 16 2004 09:28 GMT
#1
EDIT: not so funny, but read anyways -_- OMG!!!

Haha, ok here's this really awesome story about my brother's car. It's pretty long but if you are willing to read the whole thing, it's really pretty intresting, and I might need some advice.

Ok, so my brother's car broke down and we needed to buy a new one. There was this grandma at our church who was moving to Japan, and she basically sold us a $7000 car for $3000 (it is a '93 XLE Camry). My brother wanted a stick shift, so he sold it to get some money for a Civic with a Acura GSR engine swap. So we put the Camry on sale.

After some dealing, he got a buyer who was apparantly from CarLink Motors and was buying the car for a client. But from the very begining, things smelled like bull. He wanted some wierd thing where he sends a frew grand, we send a few grand back to him, and smelling a scam, we asked him to clarify. It turned out he was going to send a $13,100 cashier's check for the car, which he dealed down to $7,100, and we would have to give him back $6,000. We accepted because cashier's checks are as good as cash, so it was no risk to us and high risk for him. We accepted the deal and we were happy.

Not. He calls us like everyday after the deal has been made. He sounded like he was Mexican (name was Anthonia Leader) and talked really fast, so fast we couldn't understand him. When he first called our house, my mom hung up on him 3 times until she thought she reconized "SUNG KIM!SUNG KIM!SUNG KIM!SUNG KIM!SUNG KIM!SUNG KIM!SUNG KIM!" Sung Kim is my dad's name, so she was like "You want to talk to Sung Kim?" He's like "YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YESYESYSE". So when my dad gets the phone, he asks what the guy wants. The guy responds with a LOT of giberish but my dad made out two words: money and car. So he's like, Oh you are the buyer for the car. The guy goes on his yes spasm again. My dad gives up on trying to understand him and tells my brother to talk to the buyer because my dad isn't perfect English. Well when my brother picks up the phone and listens for 3 seconds, he busts out laughing and can't stop for like 2 minutes. He thought it was a joke because the guy was so uncomprehendable. My brother tried to tell the guy to slow down and speak slower, but no success. The other guy just hung up. So things get a littler wierder, but we don't worry too much yet.

Now, the money still doesn't come even when it's sopposed to. It turns out he shipped it to New York accidently or something. But the guy doesn't believe us and calls us and screams "MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!!!" and doesn't really say anything else. Really insane. Finally we call fedex and get everything worked out and he leaves us alone.... for a while.

When the money comes, we put the $11,100 into our bank account (all confirmed) and take out $6000 in cash because that's how he wanted it. We insisted he accept a cashier's check as it is more secure and easier to ship than $6000 in cash. But he denies the offer with one of his spasms again. He wants us to use the international Money Gram. When we go to the Money Gram place, it turns out you need $260 as the fee to send that much money over their service. That was insane, I mean if the guy accepted the cashier's check and we did overnight fedex, it would only cost like $20... so we made Mr. Leader pay for the $260 because he wanted to use that service so bad. When we get home, we get another call and the guy is seriously pissed off. He won't believe us that we sent the money and keeps screaming at us.

OK, so that was the story up to yesterday. We discussed it as a family and here's what we analyzed. First of all, he claimed he needed to do the $11,100 check because it was some company check or something. Soemthing stupid. Well one thing that that doesn't seem to fit is why the change he needed back was EXACTLY $6000, I mean I'd expect it to be like $5876 or something like that, but it's an exact amount. So he must have been looking for a car that was around 7100 so he could get exact change, and a car that costs any less than 7000 would be suspiciuos because buying a 500 dollar car with a 11,000 check is unheard of.

Then there's the thing with the MoneyGram service. It turns out you don't even need the recevier's name. Anybody who has the pickup number can pick it up ANYWHERE in the world. Like this MEXICAN was sopposedly in CANADA... he his accent was very very heavy, which makes me think he wasn't been living here for a while. So how could he have a company like CarLink Motors. Who'd trust a person with their car transation if he can't even speak comprehendable English? And back on topic, WHO SPENDS $260 ON A MONEY TRANSATION! You can do it free with your bank or online, or even spend only 20 dollars on a the cashier's check/fedex combo. MoneyGram seems to be the best way to launder money as there is no trace who got the money, and you can pick it up ANYWHERE versus a cashier's check which you can trace.

Another wierd thing was his name. Anthonia Leader. I dont' know many Mexican names, but I do know that "Leader" is not a last name. I even checked out the Portland Metro PhoneBook and found no "Leader". The reason we think it is a fake last name is because my brother's e-mail, is soi_leader@asdfasd.com. He must have thought that "leader" was my brother's last name or something and copied it as his own.

The guy also never gave us his phone number. He didn't even request that we send the car title to him with the $6000 so it seems he has no intention of keeping the car but just wants the money. I mean legally, we still own the car and he has NO PROOF whatsoever that he bought the car. Normally when you buy a car and you will pick it up later, you will take the title for proof. Also he kept calling us and always asked about the money, and got extremely mad when they thought we jacked them, even though we already sent the money. "MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY!"

He also stopped replying to our e-mails about when he was coming to come pick up the car. Even over the phone he'd ignore our questions about how he was going to pick up the car and he would change the subject to the money. Now, here's a new addition to this story that basically confrims everything we expected. He gave us an e-mail today and here's what is says:

From: MIKE Willaims
To: Soi_leader@ljkalskdjfasdfasdfa[censored]
Subject: (S.O.S) I AWAITING WESTERN UNION IFORMATION........
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:54:22 +0100 (BST)


Dear Soi,

HOW ARE YOU/HOPE ALL IS WELL EITH YOU.THIS SI TO INFORM YOU THAT THE CAR THE SHIPPERS WERE MENT TO COME AND OICKUP WON'T BE POSSIBLE AGIN B/COS MY COSUTOMER HAD AN ACCIDENT AND PASS AWAY SO THE WIFE AND THERE FAMILY CAME TO MY OFFICE TO INFORM ME AND THAT WANT THE REFUND OF THE MONEY AENT TO YOU FOR THE CAR.

BUT I CALL MY LAWYER IN AND WE AGREED THAT YOU TAKE %15 OUT THE MONEY AND SEND TOE BALANCE TO THIS ADDRESS BELOW SO THAT THEY CAN OFF SET THE BURIAL ARANGEMAENT THAT IS DUE THIS COMING WEEK.THE NAME YOU USE TO SEND THE FUNDS IS MY CUSTOMER'S LAWYER NAME BELOW TRUE MONEY GRAM


SO PLS I AWAIT THE WESTERN INFORMATION AS SOOS AS POSSIBLE HERE IS THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO DO THIS AND SEND THE WESTERN INFORMATION TO THIS MAIL ADDRESS carlinkmotors@mail2world.com FOR THIS MAIL ADD IS MY MAIN OFFICE WERE I SATY ALWAYS.PLS TRY AND UNDERSTAND WE ARE SORRY FOR WHAT EVER IT WILL COST YOU....OK.

THANKS AND GOD BLESS,
MIKE.......(C.E.O)CARLINKMOTORS

NAME - STEVEN MA
ADDRESS - 11 BAY STREET,
TORONTO, ONTARIO. M5J 2S1.
CANADA.

TEXT QUESTION..... MY CUSTOMERS NAME

ANSWER............... KIM

ROFL? haha, notice the "Dear soi," part? He really thinks that is a first name... haha. So notice the "from" part, it says Mike Williams instead of Anthonia Leader. Hmm... also he says he's from CarLink Motors, yes? Go to CarLink Motor's Website and check out the e-mail there. It is sales@carlinkmotors, not carlink_motors@yahoo.... hahaha

So now I am confident that this is dirty money (I mean wanting the money back makes it so obvious) and we are being used to launder their money. He wants us to send the $7100 back because the family died... ROFL! We are thinking of just keeping the car and selling it to someone else (We just earned 7100! haha) but I'm afraid that they'll come here with guns or something. So instead, my brother "no refunds" in his e-mail reply and just said "sell the car yourself, you are a car dealer". They are trying to use us to cover their tracks so the cashier's check doesn't trace back to them.

So... what do I do? What we were originally going to do was sit for a month or so (this was before today when he didn't e-mail us for a refund and we hadn't communicated with him in a few days) and then keep using the car or sell if no communication. We thought he'd just run away with the $6000 and be happy, but just in case he was really sincire, we would wait a month. Now we don't need to wait a month, this is almost a confirmation. I'm thinking of e-mailing CarLinkMotors and asking if carlink_motors@yahoo is one of their staff, but I already know the answer. Should we just keep the money and hope they don't shoot us? Should we tell the cops? The thing will telling the cops is things tend to get a lot more complicated and all the questions... and they might even take our extra "hard earned" money away!

Anyways, this is really awesome situation and I thought I'd share. Haha...
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
May 16 2004 09:35 GMT
#2
Hahaha what a stupid criminal.
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Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 16 2004 09:38 GMT
#3
Man, that's a fucked up situation.
Tough call to say what you should do, not really something I could help you with having no experience in it whatsoever.

I'd probably go to the cops though, and don't tell them it was 7100, tell them it was lower, like 4100 or something.

Or you could wait it out awhile...

But this guy sounds kind of corny, like wtf? I doubt he could really do anything. I really don't think he'd show up at your door with guns and shit. But, that's just what I'd think - not your conscience.

I'd say it's 50/50 between wait it out awhile (like 2 months), and talking to the cops.
Cops are fucking annoying though, and ask too many damn questions about the simplest things.

I'd probably wait it out, but then again I rush into things without using my head, and pay for the trouble (if any) later.
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 16 2004 09:38 GMT
#4
On May 16 2004 18:35 BroOd wrote:
Hahaha what a stupid criminal.


lol I was thinking the same thing.
MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
May 16 2004 09:39 GMT
#5
WoW...I would have stopped after the whole company check bullshit and said to hell with you.
I want an igloo.
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 16 2004 09:40 GMT
#6
On May 16 2004 18:39 Tai-Shu wrote:
WoW...I would have stopped after the whole company check bullshit and said to hell with you.


He's not asking what he should've done, he's learned his lesson by now I'm sure.
He's asking what he should do. -_-
MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
May 16 2004 09:41 GMT
#7
On May 16 2004 18:35 BroOd wrote:
Hahaha what a stupid criminal.


Good thing he is a stupid criminal, or things could be a lot worse
I want an igloo.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 16 2004 09:41 GMT
#8





wh.. what, where am i?
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 09:41 GMT
#9
On May 16 2004 18:38 Mydnyte wrote:
I'd probably go to the cops though, and don't tell them it was 7100, tell them it was lower, like 4100 or something.
They'd ask ALOT of questions, and probably trace the cashier's check and check our bank balances. We can't lie about something like that, be caught, and still be innocent in the polices' eyes.
taeWook
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1367 Posts
May 16 2004 09:42 GMT
#10
Sounds like this guy is either stupid, or has mental problems. What if he thinks you ripped him off and comes after you or your family? In any case, keep the money, most likely nothing will happen. Just make sure you have a peice in the house somewhere, and 911 on speeddial, just in case the moron decides he wants his money back.
keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 09:42 GMT
#11
On May 16 2004 18:39 Tai-Shu wrote:
WoW...I would have stopped after the whole company check bullshit and said to hell with you.

Well then you woudn't have the oppertunity to earn a free $7100.
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 16 2004 09:44 GMT
#12
On May 16 2004 18:41 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2004 18:38 Mydnyte wrote:
I'd probably go to the cops though, and don't tell them it was 7100, tell them it was lower, like 4100 or something.
They'd ask ALOT of questions, and probably trace the cashier's check and check our bank balances. We can't lie about something like that, be caught, and still be innocent in the polices' eyes.


Yeah good point, then honesty is the best policy.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 09:44 GMT
#13
Oh, I'd just like to tell you guys that I live in the middle of nowhere. I have about 4 house holds near me, but the nearest one is about 200 yards away. Huge fields, tress, everything. I could go outside and scream as loud as I wanted, and nobody would care or even hear me. If a person brings a gun, gg.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-16 15:46:37
May 16 2004 09:48 GMT
#14
Oh, any people who know about law, can I get in trouble for suspecting/knowing about this and not telling the police? (it is such a hassel...) Do they usually take the dirty money away from us? How easy is it to trace a cashier's check... I mean if we don't do anything, will the company that got jacked by "Mr. Leader" do something if they trace the money to my dad? I assume they can't because we did everything legal, and we still have the car so it's not like we lose anything besides time.

My dad said just to e-mail him and say "The police called me and they want detailed identification from you" and my dad predicted the guy would disappear. Bah -_-
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 16 2004 09:49 GMT
#15
Yeah talk to the authorities (FBI). You can even direct them to this forum thread so you don't constantly have to repeat yourself.

That story sure was funny though. hahahaha.

"MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY! YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!"
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Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
May 16 2004 09:50 GMT
#16
wow that's very wierd...

I would wait for them to reply to your brother "sell the car yourself" mail and call the cops or not depending on their reply
Guest
Profile Joined December 2003
136 Posts
May 16 2004 09:50 GMT
#17
lol, I can so hear Sam laughing for 2 minutes over that..
Or 20 rather..
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 09:50 GMT
#18
Yeah, my brother just started laughing into the phone when he first heard the guy. Imagine how the guy must have felt, unless he was faking his voice (he must have been).
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
May 16 2004 10:05 GMT
#19
haha you should do what your dad said
good vibes only
Tassadar
Profile Joined January 2003
United States45 Posts
May 16 2004 10:08 GMT
#20
Dude, if your yard is that big..with that much money..you can get a hole lot of guns and mines and still have a pretty good deal of money left. Also a plausible course of action for your to consider laundering the money yourself and elminating the ties it has with your family.
Hatred, weakness, and guilt keep me alive at the bottom.
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 16 2004 10:09 GMT
#21
And if they make the slightest mistake, their fucked. You forgot that part Tassadar.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 10:13 GMT
#22
I'm not laundering anything.
Countdown
Profile Joined February 2004
1217 Posts
May 16 2004 10:20 GMT
#23
On May 16 2004 18:35 BroOd wrote:
Hahaha what a stupid criminal.


That's not a stupid criminal.

One time a guy entered a convenient store to try and rob it. He has a gun and a mask, and says "Give me all the money." The female clerk says "Wait, don't you have to be 18 to rob a store? You aren't 18." The guy says "Yes, I am." He then proceeds to take out his driver's license and show it to the clerk. He was arrested the same day.

THAT'S a stupid criminal.
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 16 2004 10:21 GMT
#24
LMFAO aksjgsalgaksgf ROFL
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 16 2004 10:24 GMT
#25
KLOGON KLOGON KLOGON KLOGON KLOGON KLOGON KLOGON KLOGON

READ THIS IT IS SO IMPORTANT. I was just talking to my mom about this (she's worked at a bank for 20 years) and it sounds like you guys are more screwed than you might believe. First and foremost, there is a high probability that the cashier's check was stolen. You already had to pay the guy $6,000 of your own "clean" money. Once that cashier's check clears, YOU will be busted. Once a bank gets a stolen cashier's check, they immediately call the police and whoever cashed it goes to jail.

You guys are stuck between a rock and a hard place. If you do nothing, the guy is still entitled to the car. If you cash the check, you get boned by the cops. If you tell the authorities (probably the best action as long as you have evidence to support your claims) they will take the "dirty" money, but you'll still have the car. At any rate, you guys are out $6,000. =(
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DreamOfVision
Profile Joined April 2004
Poland318 Posts
May 16 2004 10:25 GMT
#26
He must be Mexican to pull off something this stupid.
(no racial pun intended)
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
May 16 2004 10:34 GMT
#27
It sounds like he may have stolen the cashiers check, and is using you as a clean way to cash it so he won't be traced (eventually you will probably be contacted by the investigating agency).

I'm not sure what your state laws are, but generally there must be a written contract for a sale of goods exceeding $500. It doesn't sound like you have a written contract so he may be able to void the "deal" and demand all of the money back. Of course, he would need to file a lawsuit to do that and his identity would be revealed.

You might want to ask your bank for advice. I'm sure they see this a lot. Don't send the money any money until you figure out what is going on. You might be forced to pay the rightful owner of the check if it was stolen.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 10:34 GMT
#28
Oh god, you can't be serious Excal. DAMNIT!!!!!!!!
sux2bme
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada390 Posts
May 16 2004 10:38 GMT
#29
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 10:41 GMT
#30
My dad is asking how do you steal a cashier's check? The name was printed to his name, so he's saying that it can't be stolen, because it was given to his name.

I donno. -_-
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
May 16 2004 10:43 GMT
#31
Looks like sux2bme found the answer.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 16 2004 10:43 GMT
#32
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Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 16 2004 10:44 GMT
#33
Damn. That's some fucked up shit to have happen.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 16 2004 10:45 GMT
#34
On May 16 2004 19:41 Klogon wrote:
My dad is asking how do you steal a cashier's check? The name was printed to his name, so he's saying that it can't be stolen, because it was given to his name.

I donno. -_-


Sorry if I gave you a coronary. Visit the link in sux2bme's post. You guys should be in good hands I think.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 10:48 GMT
#35
God damnit. Good thing I asked here. Thanks guys. I gotta eat, brb.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 16 2004 10:55 GMT
#36
On May 16 2004 19:41 Klogon wrote:
My dad is asking how do you steal a cashier's check? The name was printed to his name, so he's saying that it can't be stolen, because it was given to his name.

I donno. -_-


He could have stolen a blank cashier's check and made it out to himself. My mom says she could easily steal a stack of cashier's checks and the bank wouldn't realize it for weeks.
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luminosity_
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada378 Posts
May 16 2004 11:11 GMT
#37
just go to the cops, answer all their questions, tell them everything you know and let them handle it.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 11:18 GMT
#38
IFCC might take too long, so should I call them? Hmm... no phone number there. Maybe I'll submit an internet notice plus call them. Gosh, this sucks. I might be funding some paramilitary oranization in West Africa so they can go kill some more people. -_-
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 11:40 GMT
#39
It's going to suck if they cops come into my house and search the computer for some clues like the e-mails and such. All my programs, anime, movies, and music that I pirated.. haha. Also "Poker Stars" on my desktop and poker forums that are book marked.
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
May 16 2004 11:46 GMT
#40
Homo porn of Elky and Naz etc.
They could really throw the book at you..
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TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
May 16 2004 12:07 GMT
#41
I would contact Better Business Bureau, IFCC, Car link motors, your bank, and any other relevant parties just to be safe.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-16 13:38:04
May 16 2004 13:01 GMT
#42
Yeah, the thing that pisses me off the most is that we knew he was BS from the beginning, but we still got screwed. My brother told my parents to wait for the check to clear, but my dad insisted that because the bank already handed us the money, it already cleared. God, this is stupid. We knew he was BS, but they thought they check was real. -_-

Basically, I feel like a genius who lost in a game of chess against a retard.
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-16 14:12:01
May 16 2004 14:11 GMT
#43
First thing in the morning you should contact the nearest FBI office. Explain to them what you think may have happened and hope for the best. Maybe they can get an agent up to that Toronto address. It seems to be a mistake that he gave you an address rather than asking for another moneygram or whatever.

Your biggest problem is with the bank. They should be sympathetic and work out a payment plan with you rather than filing charges. You need to get to them before they figure out they were screwed, or their response may be to file first and talk later.

Good luck.
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YoMeR
Profile Joined January 2003
United States263 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-16 15:47:16
May 16 2004 14:21 GMT
#44
Fuck the "mike williams" guy. Wow i just had that feeling he wasn't legit at all. God I have been out smarted by a moron. So what does that make me?
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 14:27 GMT
#45
Well the thing about our bank (Bank of America) is that they won't file charges, instead they will directly withdraw all the funds directly. So the account will have $13,100 subtracted from it, and we already withdrew $6,000 which makes us that much in the negative. The account will be closed within 60 days unless we get a loan and put some money in there. So gay.
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
May 16 2004 14:41 GMT
#46
You still have all the money right? So, if they don't file charges and just ask for the cash back it wont be much trouble?
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
tAi
Profile Joined March 2004
78 Posts
May 16 2004 14:41 GMT
#47
keep the money idiot, hes obviously not gonna come kill you... hes a dumb ESL criminal.
Zoom
Profile Joined January 2004
1111 Posts
May 16 2004 14:41 GMT
#48
You guys should have sold your car the normal way..you know the way where you meet the person, and he hands you the money, and you hand him the keys, and your both happy, and nobody gets arrested!
There's no producing this perfect pose, hit the streets in the freshest clothes. Rip the stage, and bless the shows. Spit the flows and hit the do'
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 14:46 GMT
#49
tAi, the $6000 is already sent. We assumed the bank cleared the check when the bank account showed a huge increase in funds, but that isn't so. So we are down $6000...
TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
May 16 2004 15:06 GMT
#50
Was he pretending to be a handicapped english speaker or sumthing?
My life is so hard :(
TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
May 16 2004 15:08 GMT
#51
On May 16 2004 18:49 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Yeah talk to the authorities (FBI). You can even direct them to this forum thread so you don't constantly have to repeat yourself.

That story sure was funny though. hahahaha.

"MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY! YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!"



ahah
My life is so hard :(
taeWook
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1367 Posts
May 16 2004 15:26 GMT
#52
Klogon, are you starving to death? Is there a huge medical bill you need to take care of? From what Ive read, you have a comfortable life with a loving family. You can always make more money, but it only takes a illegal act to send you, or a member of your family to prison. Plus you still have the car? In that sense you've lost nothing, and gained everything. The knowledge of learning how to deal with these situations, so you dont make the same mistake again. I would say that is much better than a spare 6000.
keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 15:31 GMT
#53
No, we already lost $6000. And yes, there is are huge medical bills we need to pay (my brother's surgeries costed hella losts), a car was wrecked a few months ago, I was hospitalized and costs 2 grand, and some other things, but it's not like we were out to get illegal money. We just wanted to sell a car and buy a new one. It just happened that this guy sent us a huge check, and we were almost certain there was soemthing very wrong witht he transation. My dad just got the wrong impression that the check was indeed legitimate thus maybe making the buyer sincere as well. So basically we had it all figured out, the only thing that screwed us was the misconception that the check cleared and was legitimate. So at first we thought we had noting to lose and everything to gain (I mean he sends us the huge check, right?), but we were wrong. And we lost 6 grand.
RushTHElarvA
Profile Joined January 2003
449 Posts
May 16 2004 15:32 GMT
#54
Umm..............hello "spare 6000" ?!?!?!?!? who does that...
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 16 2004 15:32 GMT
#55
Bwt, we talked to the FBI and thanks to the Patriot Act, we might be able to track down the money to see where it went. I mean we very well might have funded some damn terrorists.
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-16 15:44:05
May 16 2004 15:43 GMT
#56
NUKED
taeWook
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1367 Posts
May 16 2004 15:46 GMT
#57
Oops my bad. That really sucks for you guys. Hope you find the culprits, best luck to you and your family.
keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
Countdown
Profile Joined February 2004
1217 Posts
May 17 2004 02:18 GMT
#58
On May 16 2004 23:46 Klogon wrote:
tAi, the $6000 is already sent. We assumed the bank cleared the check when the bank account showed a huge increase in funds, but that isn't so. So we are down $6000...


If you have enough money in your account to cover the check, they will take the money out of your account and give it to you, and they will put the check there in it's place. So you are left with a bad check in your account. Just about everyone knows it takes some time for the check to clear, so you probably learned a good lesson T_T

I suggest you start saving all these emails and telephone calls between this guy, in case they track him down. If you have no evidence of the 6k even being sent, and the car is still in your name, then there is almost no way to link him to you, other then the emails. He probably spoke gibberish intentionally, so it will be easier to deny in court. As of right now, it looks like you just stole an $11k cashiers check and cashed it. Nothing more.

P.S. everyone I know thinks you are stupid
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
May 17 2004 04:56 GMT
#59
On May 16 2004 20:40 Klogon wrote:
It's going to suck if they cops come into my house and search the computer for some clues like the e-mails and such. All my programs, anime, movies, and music that I pirated.. haha. Also "Poker Stars" on my desktop and poker forums that are book marked.
Actually they take your comp as evidence and keep it.
koehli
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany350 Posts
May 17 2004 05:36 GMT
#60
On May 16 2004 22:01 Klogon wrote:
Yeah, the thing that pisses me off the most is that we knew he was BS from the beginning, but we still got screwed. My brother told my parents to wait for the check to clear, but my dad insisted that because the bank already handed us the money, it already cleared. God, this is stupid. We knew he was BS, but they thought they check was real. -_-

Basically, I feel like a genius who lost in a game of chess against a retard.


Can happen to the best of us. These tricksters all have one common scheme, they make you greedy / stress you out (MONEY MONEY MONEY, funny accent you don't understand, shouting) then your brain stops working and you get tricked like the last imbecile :/ I've had some crooks try something similar (on the 50 $ scale, but still ...) on my father and me and man, it's hard to not fall for it.

As it's a common scheme at least you won't get jailed, laws in Germany would give you a maximum penalty of up to five years, don't know if American law is very much more lenient ... Well, just don't try to make up the loss by helping some African politician get his money transferred to America ;-(
You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time.
0_0
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-17 06:19:04
May 17 2004 06:10 GMT
#61
This actually happened to me(exactly what sux2me explained). I was selling a computer on Ebay and a guy from Nigeria bought it. He gave me like $6000 for a $1500 laptop and told me to send the rest to him via western union. He then asked me to overnight the laptop to Lagos Nigeria via fedex, it was some ridiculously large sum like $300.

So I decided to play it safe, I waited for like 5 days for the cashiers check to clear(well, funds were available). Then I wired the money and sent the laptop. I gess the good thing was that I had the guy's name and address(he needed to show picture ID to pick up the money). Then a few days later the bank calls me and says the check was a fake. I was like WTF, fucking gayass bank. Then I just kinda let it go since I didn't wanna get screwed with some Western African Mafia and end up shot... =/ and I didn't really need the 4.5grand anyways...
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
May 17 2004 06:59 GMT
#62
This is one of the funniest and saddest story ive ever read. =[.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 17 2004 07:24 GMT
#63
Yeah, the guy is still talking to us. He called us 1:00AM to talk about the refund he wants. He just sent us more e-mails with some of them being lawyers and stuff. We made this guy greedy, but we found out there's nothing we can do 'cause he's in Nigeria. The FBI agent completed all the sentences for my dad when he was talking to him. It has happened everywhere and is still going on large scale. God, only if we waited a few days, but one misconception about the check being clear (just like O_O had) screwed us. Oh well.
ReBanned
Profile Joined April 2004
1929 Posts
May 17 2004 07:44 GMT
#64
Alright, we form a team liquid special ops squad, we will be air dropped somewhere in the most remote part of Nigeria, we will then hike through the country killing ever nigerian we see till we get Klogons money back.
0_0
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2090 Posts
May 17 2004 07:48 GMT
#65
That sounds cool, yeah I hate the fact that there really isn't anything you can do, its like getting ripped off by a Mexican cartel, your can't really do much they're basically outside of the law =/. For a few days I was considering an AK-47 + a ticket to Nigeria to hunt down that bitch. Then I figured I'd get stopped at airport security before I got anywhere =/.
Countdown
Profile Joined February 2004
1217 Posts
May 17 2004 08:09 GMT
#66
On May 17 2004 16:44 ReBanned wrote:
we will then hike through the country killing ever nigerian we see till we get Klogons money back.


Right on brother! That's the American way!
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
May 17 2004 08:43 GMT
#67
Typical Nigerian Fraud thingy..

http://spl.haxial.net/nigerian-fraud/

hf.
Oscillate
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia89 Posts
May 17 2004 10:18 GMT
#68
I know a bunch of people with the surname Leader
y0y0y0
toptalent
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-26 14:43:51
August 26 2004 14:31 GMT
#69
sorry i probably shouldnt have bumped this. but i think more people should read this if they havent already. klogon no hard feelings plz. u r not stupid. actually i kinda got really excited when i recieved that email the very first time. but mayb wax was right. i was kinda really paranoid and nerdy. so the first thing i did after i calmed down was to search the content of that email on google. rofl how disappointing. =p

Kimmural
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1111 Posts
August 26 2004 15:00 GMT
#70
On May 17 2004 16:44 ReBanned wrote:
Alright, we form a team liquid special ops squad, we will be air dropped somewhere in the most remote part of Nigeria, we will then hike through the country killing ever nigerian we see till we get Klogons money back.


I am so in for that. KLOGON SHALL BE AVENGED.
Just saying "no" prevents teenage pragnancy the way "have a nice day" cues chronic depression
ReBanned
Profile Joined April 2004
1929 Posts
August 26 2004 15:24 GMT
#71
I remember this thread, I showed this to a few people and they enjoyed it, espcially the MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY part, so any new news Klogon
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 26 2004 15:43 GMT
#72
Klogon you should hire Sylvester Stallone and go track this guy down if you're worried
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 26 2004 15:44 GMT
#73
All you need to know is that they owned me. -_-
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
August 26 2004 15:46 GMT
#74
lol

"It turned out he was going to send a $13,100 cashier's check for the car, which he dealed down to $7,100, and we would have to give him back $6,000. We accepted because cashier's checks are as good as cash, so it was no risk to us and high risk for him."

that gets me everytime
JAM THE FUCKER!
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 26 2004 15:46 GMT
#75
lovely thread, I know, but it's still old. People will still see it if they check Excals new topic. :O
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