EPTWith canada411 you can get anyones number and address from just a first and last name
Your last name should always be protected online, optional if you want to display it or not.
Bnet forums to be Real Name Only - Page 93
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
With canada411 you can get anyones number and address from just a first and last name Your last name should always be protected online, optional if you want to display it or not. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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jungsu
United States279 Posts
On July 07 2010 01:50 ViRo wrote: I googled myself just to test this out and I got someone with the same name as me. This brings up another issue..... ![[image loading]](http://mediatogo.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/arnold-schwarzenegger-the-terminator2.jpg) Sarah Connor #5 You Die! | ||
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Blixy213
United States360 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:36 Megalisk wrote: Blizzard forums are trash, and will always be trash. This won't help anyways. I agree, most of the official blizzard forums are the last place to go for a discussion about the title you are playing: Starcraft has TeamLiquid. WoW has ElitestJerks Never played Diablo, i'd put money down their is one though. But, it is still quite scary that with this only announced people are tracking other players (and mods) down just from their name. There is a facebook group trying for 100k members friending the girlfriend of a Blizzard forums poster. Although this won't affect me directly, it's pretty awful to know Blizzard is the one behind this. | ||
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TeXasLaWDoG
United States33 Posts
And it doesnt take a Spreadsheet to come to the conclusion of going back to the battle.net and creating a false real name account...most of the time people that do this will want to be creative on their REAL name, or make a Funny one like "Jaque Offph" or "Mydique Ineurass" if they want to rub in how much of a total failure the real ID turned out... I honestly think (just like i do with gun control) is that you are only hurting honest and good people with something like this,...Because such people may not even post on the forums as the polls suggest because they dont want their real name out there, and those that take it up the butt will just say ok whatever ill still post no big deal...Meanwhile you got some person that just may not like you very much and Knowing your Full name is a great place to start if they want to kill you or mess with your life in some way...Trust me all it takes is for me to know your Full name and soon i know your facebook account and your emails, and i will also know your friends, and most likely will know what city you live in and how to find you using basic detective work, Trust me i am just that Persistant if someone really bothered me that much...I will find them, and knowing their name makes it that much easier So, im not a bad guy, but in order for me to spot bad people i need to be able to think like one...And yes cyber terrorists exist and so do cyber Preditors...And all it takes is for them to know your full name, and an obsession with finding you...If i could do this myself so could any preditor out there...Real ID is a bad thing....And blizzard has succombed to the cyber thugs in light to expose them...but in reality it just puts other good people in danger | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
At risk of sounding just contrary, I also think the RealID is a great thing. Here at TL in our own rulebook we say that we value reputation, particularly as it is attached to a name. By requiring RealID, Blizz is just taking the same step. As a lot of the Blues have made clear on the WoW forums, I think they understand exactly the impact the requirement will have and are completely OK with 75% of the forum posters not returning (and damn, can you blame them?). In videogames and on the internet as a whole, posters have always been able to hide behind the veil of anonymity- in what other type of community or group would you submit a completely bogus name and expect this to be legitimate? For example, I personally belong to the ADK 46'ers organization. If any other member in the community had a problem with me, they'd have access to any of my personal information, including name, address, phone number etc. So far I've never had any problem, and by and large, people who belong to the billions of other offline groups and organizations haven't either. This idea that anonymity is a right is limited solely to the internet, and honestly, I don't think there's a single poster on here who would argue the fact that this anonymity is the driving force behind the internet's culture. Seeing this barrier begin to fall is a great step in my eyes. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:42 Blixy wrote: I agree, most of the official blizzard forums are the last place to go for a discussion about the title you are playing: Starcraft has TeamLiquid. WoW has ElitestJerks Never played Diablo, i'd put money down their is one though. But, it is still quite scary that with this only announced people are tracking other players (and mods) down just from their name. There is a facebook group trying for 100k members friending the girlfriend of a Blizzard forums poster. Although this won't affect me directly, it's pretty awful to know Blizzard is the one behind this. I haven't played DII at a very high / competitive laddering level, but from what I've seen d2jsp.org has some really nice optimization guides / discussions / threads in their forums, similar to what TL or ElitistJerks have. | ||
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Baksteen
Netherlands438 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:42 Blixy wrote: I agree, most of the official blizzard forums are the last place to go for a discussion about the title you are playing: Starcraft has TeamLiquid. WoW has ElitestJerks Never played Diablo, i'd put money down their is one though. But, it is still quite scary that with this only announced people are tracking other players (and mods) down just from their name. There is a facebook group trying for 100k members friending the girlfriend of a Blizzard forums poster. Although this won't affect me directly, it's pretty awful to know Blizzard is the one behind this. WC3 has gosugamers.net!  And i forgot about EJ, they had such a great forum. Really similair to how TL is ran. On topic, i think it's a bad idea though. And it would only make sense if they hid the name for admins/mods. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:45 See.Blue wrote: Here at TL in our own rulebook we say that we value reputation, particularly as it is attached to a name. By requiring RealID, Blizz is just taking the same step. Do you see how TL manages to do it without, you know, compromising privacy and security? | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
If you are a 14-old kid you just don't care. If you are 24+ you just have to care about what other people might think of you. You even have to care about their stupid possible thoughts and reasonings just because it is the way it is. If someone is playing chess on high level he is smart and intelligent. If someone plays sc2 (no matter on which level) he just wastes his time. | ||
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Vedic
United States582 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:45 See.Blue wrote: At risk of sounding just contrary, I also think the RealID is a great thing. Here at TL in our own rulebook we say that we value reputation, particularly as it is attached to a name. By requiring RealID, Blizz is just taking the same step. As a lot of the Blues have made clear on the WoW forums, I think they understand exactly the impact the requirement will have and are completely OK with 75% of the forum posters not returning (and damn, can you blame them?). In videogames and on the internet as a whole, posters have always been able to hide behind the veil of anonymity- in what other type of community or group would you submit a completely bogus name and expect this to be legitimate? For example, I personally belong to the ADK 46'ers organization. If any other member in the community had a problem with me, they'd have access to any of my personal information, including name, address, phone number etc. So far I've never had any problem, and by and large, people who belong to the billions of other offline groups and organizations haven't either. This idea that anonymity is a right is limited solely to the internet, and honestly, I don't think there's a single poster on here who would argue the fact that this anonymity is the driving force behind the internet's culture. Seeing this barrier begin to fall is a great step in my eyes. They're not just leaving the forums, they're quitting the game (and many are also going to cancel their SC2 preorder). The account cancellation service for WoW was lagged to hell for 5 hours straight. No change in the history of WoW has ever been met with this much resistance. | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:47 Archerofaiur wrote: Do you see how TL manages to do it without, you know, compromising privacy and security? That ignores the larger point I was making, namely that there's been groups and organizations in the real world, time out of mind, whose members have always been able to know the real names of other members, as thats how they communicate. Groups like this still exist, so it's not a huge jump to see that having strangers learn your real name can't be as apocalyptic as a lot of the posting on here would suggest. | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:49 Vedic wrote: They're not just leaving the forums, they're quitting the game (and many are also going to cancel their SC2 preorder). The account cancellation service for WoW was lagged to hell for 5 hours straight. No change in the history of WoW has ever been met with this much resistance. That argument though is taking up the matter of whether or not its good business practice. That's a separate matter entirely. Edit: Sorry double post. A mod can feel free to delete this. | ||
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Santriell
Belgium151 Posts
Not only am I not going to buy the game but i'll get actively participative in the emulation of their half-assed Bnet2. Other coders should do it too. | ||
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milkncheese
United States6 Posts
1) good luck getting any girls to post on the official forums. :p 2) anyone who posts will probably get a ton of spam mail. people will trace the real names to email addresses. 3) some people may lose their jobs. ive seen people get fired over stuff they posted on facebook. they did something incredibly stupid, and im sure it will happen. 4) if anyones account gets hacked, they could post harsh stuff on the forums. "oh i play wow all day and ignore my kids, etc". I think Real-ID was first used by the nazi's on the jewish people.... | ||
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
"I never post on the forums anyway. But this change kills me!" I see a lot of people talking about how the Blizzard forums are trash and they never use them, which is honestly incredibly true, because people troll and insult all day long. Then I see them saying how this is "ruining the spirit of the blizzard forums". Honestly, you're acting like they just made it so they're going to make your "Real Name" appear for everything you do ever, as opposed to say, only if you choose to post on forums, which are optional, and none of you seem to like in the first place. BUT YOU STILL HAVE INCREDIBLY VALID OPINIONS ABOUT STUFF YOU DON'T USE! Eh, I guess it's a self-selecting bias. This is a forum community, therefore they probably care needlessly and hyperly about forums that they supposedly don't use. At the end of the day, all the people who scream how this will be the end of Blizzard and their evil ways should really realize the simple fact. That an incredibly small amount of people (relative to user base) use the forum in the first place and its not as if its central to gameplay mechanics or game experience. There are alternatives to everything you guys say, which you also tend to highlight in your posts, but then you also highlight why the existence of alternatives is not a valid reason because you need somewhere to troll and cry. But hey, if screaming makes you feel important, I guess that's ok. It is what two year olds do after all. | ||
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:49 Vedic wrote: They're not just leaving the forums, they're quitting the game (and many are also going to cancel their SC2 preorder). The account cancellation service for WoW was lagged to hell for 5 hours straight. No change in the history of WoW has ever been met with this much resistance. This really isn't evidence of anything, however, as yesterday was also a maintenance day anyway. Their entire servers tend to be hosted in the same place, so on maintenance day when trolling increases to unprecedented levels, the whole website lags. It's been the case every single maintenance Tuesday. And every time, people claim "OMG PEOPLE ARE FLOCKING TO QUIT!" Because you know. You clearly have these numbers and aren't just wildly speculating without actual facts. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:49 See.Blue wrote: That ignores the larger point I was making, namely that there's been groups and organizations in the real world, time out of mind, whose members have always been able to know the real names of other members, as thats how they communicate. Groups like this still exist, so it's not a huge jump to see that having strangers learn your real name can't be as apocalyptic as a lot of the posting on here would suggest. Except in real life, what you say isn't recorded and displayed for all eternity for anyone in the whole world to read. | ||
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JulianSidewind
Canada52 Posts
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GodIsNotHere
Canada395 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:53 milkncheese wrote: im not a huge privacy freak but real id is a horrible idea. 1) good luck getting any girls to post on the official forums. :p 2) anyone who posts will probably get a ton of spam mail. people will trace the real names to email addresses. 3) some people may lose their jobs. ive seen people get fired over stuff they posted on facebook. they did something incredibly stupid, and im sure it will happen. 4) if anyones account gets hacked, they could post harsh stuff on the forums. "oh i play wow all day and ignore my kids, etc". I think Real-ID was first used by the nazi's on the jewish people.... You know thats a really good point also. What are you suppose to do if someone hacks you account then? They can post/link whatever they feel like under your real name on a public forum...YEAH thats going to end well. lol | ||
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