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On July 07 2010 10:54 Oathmaster wrote:I personally am oddly thrilled at the potential that this change could potentially make in helping to open up the internet community further, I support the ambition so long as the reasons are truly in the interest of the customers in the long run. Although this seems a little too sudden, and blizzard should really make this a gradual change, not have it forced upon players as it seems now in all honestly, already we're seeing how just the idea of an open community is having on people, when everyday we're out there exposing ourselves in person, which really carries the same/worse risk as just having our name posted on a forum. Name is Mark Benjamin Bourgeois as well, for those who seem to think it matters to know I'm serious with my post 
You're from Canada! Not fair!
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On July 07 2010 10:54 Oathmaster wrote:Name is Mark Benjamin Bourgeois as well, for those who seem to think it matters to know I'm serious with my post That you are willing to post your name is commendable, but let's say 9/11 hadn't happened yet and you had a blizzard account. Let's say your name was Muhammed Abdullah and you had a bnet account and had been an occasional poster, now 9/11 hits and we all know who were behind that.
Would you still like your name to be shown publicly on the forums, knowing what you now know about how public perception of muslims have changed since 9/11, however irrational and bigoted that is? I don't even think you can imagine how it feels to be someone who doesn't have the luxury of feeling "safe". I know I sure don't, but I've spoken with people who do(a friends relative lived in east germany).
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Okay once again.
If you have a job where youre employee doesnt give a shit about what you do in youre free time and you are a white male posting youre name doesn´t proof shit either way, because no one gives a shit about people like you (and me). But there are people where this can be fucking dangerous.
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It's as if Blizzard management entered a conference room and refused to leave until they had hatched the absolute worst plan possible for improving the culture on their forums.
The "problem" wasn't anonymity. One problem was accountability. You can make users accountable for their words by tying users to a single identifier (eg no more alts). There's no upside in forcing that public moniker to be a real name and there's a gigantic, obvious downside staring you directly in the face.
Blizzard's plan is one of the worst plans in the entire history of human plan-making.
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On July 07 2010 10:51 Renaissance wrote:I saw this post on the WoW board: Show nested quote +
Once this goes live, I will never post on the forums again. I'll probably stop browsing them too.
I'm a girl, a girl with a pretty rare name. If you put my first and last name in quotes and google it, 13 pages of results come up, only 5 of them are in English. 4 of them are about me. First English result is a page about a play i was in 7 years ago, which includes a picture of me (and i still look pretty much the same).
The next three are the results from bowling tournaments I have been in. One of which has a photo of me because I did well. The 5th is some site that says to "find people with this name!" which has no info for my name. I don't have my facebook or anything like that under my real full name. I normally just shorten it so people can't really search for me.
So I post something on the forums and people will know my real name. By googling my name you can
*get photos of me
*find out my hobbies
*find out where (and with a bit of digging, when) I do my hobbies
*who some of my friends are (some of the bowling tournaments list my teammates)
* and find out the area i live in.
likelihood that someone will track me down and do bad things to me? slim to none.
Something I'm really willing to risk even if it probably would never happen? No
But beyond that, I'll be looking for a new job next year, I would hate to have a potential employer google my name, and read what I've said on here. Do I normally troll? No, I'd say 80% of my posts are just quick questions that I googled and couldn't find the answer, knowing that I could get a quick answer here.
The other 20% are my arguing about abortion, religion, random silliness and other junk in the OT forums or me falling for a troll.
I'm not a huge poster, So me not posting isn't going to change anything, but I do love these forums. I hope something changes before this goes live. Even assigning us a handle/nickname and having said nicknames link to a list of all our toons would be fine with me. But this Real ID thing has to go.
TL:DR: version
Do Not Want
Yes you can find me by googling my name
Don't want future employers to see me in the OT forums
Yes, I know that it wont be a big deal when I quit posting.
Do Not Want
And to people who say "Oh I will never post there", chances are you probably will. You may have a rare technical problem. You may want to sign up for a tournament. In my opinion, Activision Blizzard is not doing this because of the trolls. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it so that they have control not only on an online level, but real life as well.
This is what the third post by a girl with a rare name that fears what people can do when their full name is posted. It's a problem for some people I don't see how that can't be seen. If your a minority, you want to say something controversial that could make someone mad or job background checks.
No harassment doesn't happen to everyone. No you don't have to post on the forums. However you should be able to post on the forums, the "If you don't like then leave!" is not a good argument.
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huh. I actually kind of like this. Despite all the issues, there's plenty of fan forums like here people can expel their bile. The blizz forums are almost unusable because of trolling, and since trolling is the main reason people want to keep their identity secret, this may prove to be a fantastic experiment. I'm unsure, but interested to see how it goes.
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On July 07 2010 11:01 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
huh. I actually kind of like this. Despite all the issues, there's plenty of fan forums like here people can expel their bile. The blizz forums are almost unusable because of trolling, and since trolling is the main reason people want to keep their identity secret, this may prove to be a fantastic experiment. I'm unsure, but interested to see how it goes.
Unfortunately, that means that the trolls need somewhere new to hide.
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On July 07 2010 11:00 BlackMagister wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 10:51 Renaissance wrote:I saw this post on the WoW board:
Once this goes live, I will never post on the forums again. I'll probably stop browsing them too.
I'm a girl, a girl with a pretty rare name. If you put my first and last name in quotes and google it, 13 pages of results come up, only 5 of them are in English. 4 of them are about me. First English result is a page about a play i was in 7 years ago, which includes a picture of me (and i still look pretty much the same).
The next three are the results from bowling tournaments I have been in. One of which has a photo of me because I did well. The 5th is some site that says to "find people with this name!" which has no info for my name. I don't have my facebook or anything like that under my real full name. I normally just shorten it so people can't really search for me.
So I post something on the forums and people will know my real name. By googling my name you can
*get photos of me
*find out my hobbies
*find out where (and with a bit of digging, when) I do my hobbies
*who some of my friends are (some of the bowling tournaments list my teammates)
* and find out the area i live in.
likelihood that someone will track me down and do bad things to me? slim to none.
Something I'm really willing to risk even if it probably would never happen? No
But beyond that, I'll be looking for a new job next year, I would hate to have a potential employer google my name, and read what I've said on here. Do I normally troll? No, I'd say 80% of my posts are just quick questions that I googled and couldn't find the answer, knowing that I could get a quick answer here.
The other 20% are my arguing about abortion, religion, random silliness and other junk in the OT forums or me falling for a troll.
I'm not a huge poster, So me not posting isn't going to change anything, but I do love these forums. I hope something changes before this goes live. Even assigning us a handle/nickname and having said nicknames link to a list of all our toons would be fine with me. But this Real ID thing has to go.
TL:DR: version
Do Not Want
Yes you can find me by googling my name
Don't want future employers to see me in the OT forums
Yes, I know that it wont be a big deal when I quit posting.
Do Not Want
And to people who say "Oh I will never post there", chances are you probably will. You may have a rare technical problem. You may want to sign up for a tournament. In my opinion, Activision Blizzard is not doing this because of the trolls. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it so that they have control not only on an online level, but real life as well. This is what the third post by a girl with a rare name that fears what people can do when their full name is posted. It's a problem for some people I don't see how that can't be seen. If your a minority, you want to say something controversial that could make someone mad or job background checks. No harassment doesn't happen to everyone. No you don't have to post on the forums. However you should be able to post on the forums, the " If you don't like then leave!" is not a good argument.
Why is it not a good argument?
Are girls are going to face severe harassment because their graphics cards are incompatible with Cataclysm?
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Yeah this just means the trolls and lots of other people will flood to 3rd party forums like this. I will certainly never post there again, don't want all my posts available to anyone with google, be it employer, friend, potential gf, etc.
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On July 07 2010 11:04 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 11:00 BlackMagister wrote:On July 07 2010 10:51 Renaissance wrote:I saw this post on the WoW board:
Once this goes live, I will never post on the forums again. I'll probably stop browsing them too.
I'm a girl, a girl with a pretty rare name. If you put my first and last name in quotes and google it, 13 pages of results come up, only 5 of them are in English. 4 of them are about me. First English result is a page about a play i was in 7 years ago, which includes a picture of me (and i still look pretty much the same).
The next three are the results from bowling tournaments I have been in. One of which has a photo of me because I did well. The 5th is some site that says to "find people with this name!" which has no info for my name. I don't have my facebook or anything like that under my real full name. I normally just shorten it so people can't really search for me.
So I post something on the forums and people will know my real name. By googling my name you can
*get photos of me
*find out my hobbies
*find out where (and with a bit of digging, when) I do my hobbies
*who some of my friends are (some of the bowling tournaments list my teammates)
* and find out the area i live in.
likelihood that someone will track me down and do bad things to me? slim to none.
Something I'm really willing to risk even if it probably would never happen? No
But beyond that, I'll be looking for a new job next year, I would hate to have a potential employer google my name, and read what I've said on here. Do I normally troll? No, I'd say 80% of my posts are just quick questions that I googled and couldn't find the answer, knowing that I could get a quick answer here.
The other 20% are my arguing about abortion, religion, random silliness and other junk in the OT forums or me falling for a troll.
I'm not a huge poster, So me not posting isn't going to change anything, but I do love these forums. I hope something changes before this goes live. Even assigning us a handle/nickname and having said nicknames link to a list of all our toons would be fine with me. But this Real ID thing has to go.
TL:DR: version
Do Not Want
Yes you can find me by googling my name
Don't want future employers to see me in the OT forums
Yes, I know that it wont be a big deal when I quit posting.
Do Not Want
And to people who say "Oh I will never post there", chances are you probably will. You may have a rare technical problem. You may want to sign up for a tournament. In my opinion, Activision Blizzard is not doing this because of the trolls. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it so that they have control not only on an online level, but real life as well. This is what the third post by a girl with a rare name that fears what people can do when their full name is posted. It's a problem for some people I don't see how that can't be seen. If your a minority, you want to say something controversial that could make someone mad or job background checks. No harassment doesn't happen to everyone. No you don't have to post on the forums. However you should be able to post on the forums, the " If you don't like then leave!" is not a good argument. Why is it not a good argument? Are girls are going to face severe harassment because their graphics cards are incompatible with Cataclysm?
What the fuck?
Read the rest of the thread and stop trolling. Seriously. You're getting aggravating.
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didn't snowfox kill himself a couple months ago?
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On July 07 2010 11:04 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 11:00 BlackMagister wrote:On July 07 2010 10:51 Renaissance wrote:I saw this post on the WoW board:
Once this goes live, I will never post on the forums again. I'll probably stop browsing them too.
I'm a girl, a girl with a pretty rare name. If you put my first and last name in quotes and google it, 13 pages of results come up, only 5 of them are in English. 4 of them are about me. First English result is a page about a play i was in 7 years ago, which includes a picture of me (and i still look pretty much the same).
The next three are the results from bowling tournaments I have been in. One of which has a photo of me because I did well. The 5th is some site that says to "find people with this name!" which has no info for my name. I don't have my facebook or anything like that under my real full name. I normally just shorten it so people can't really search for me.
So I post something on the forums and people will know my real name. By googling my name you can
*get photos of me
*find out my hobbies
*find out where (and with a bit of digging, when) I do my hobbies
*who some of my friends are (some of the bowling tournaments list my teammates)
* and find out the area i live in.
likelihood that someone will track me down and do bad things to me? slim to none.
Something I'm really willing to risk even if it probably would never happen? No
But beyond that, I'll be looking for a new job next year, I would hate to have a potential employer google my name, and read what I've said on here. Do I normally troll? No, I'd say 80% of my posts are just quick questions that I googled and couldn't find the answer, knowing that I could get a quick answer here.
The other 20% are my arguing about abortion, religion, random silliness and other junk in the OT forums or me falling for a troll.
I'm not a huge poster, So me not posting isn't going to change anything, but I do love these forums. I hope something changes before this goes live. Even assigning us a handle/nickname and having said nicknames link to a list of all our toons would be fine with me. But this Real ID thing has to go.
TL:DR: version
Do Not Want
Yes you can find me by googling my name
Don't want future employers to see me in the OT forums
Yes, I know that it wont be a big deal when I quit posting.
Do Not Want
And to people who say "Oh I will never post there", chances are you probably will. You may have a rare technical problem. You may want to sign up for a tournament. In my opinion, Activision Blizzard is not doing this because of the trolls. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it so that they have control not only on an online level, but real life as well. This is what the third post by a girl with a rare name that fears what people can do when their full name is posted. It's a problem for some people I don't see how that can't be seen. If your a minority, you want to say something controversial that could make someone mad or job background checks. No harassment doesn't happen to everyone. No you don't have to post on the forums. However you should be able to post on the forums, the " If you don't like then leave!" is not a good argument. Why is it not a good argument? Are girls are going to face severe harassment because their graphics cards are incompatible with Cataclysm?
Should girls have to manage what they say for fear of harassment? The quoted girl talks about abortion and religion, those debates can be heated, guess girls need to stay out.
Girls can also face harassment simply for being girls. Like the female posts quoted said they have unique names. You see a girl's name, you can look it up.
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+ Show Spoiler + In much the same way that pasting [Bullies' Names] on their chests in school somehow decreases their bullying?
A bully will continue to be a bully, a troll will continue to be a troll. There is no way any logical train of thought can result in the assumption that an undesirable poster will decrease their undesirable activity when they are still provided a certain degree of separation from their intended target.
Arguments against providing real life names aside (which are valid) - [Cairneey] still remains as anonymous to me as [Joe Schmo] - and [Joe Schmo] knows this and will continue to act accordingly.
In short - there are no more repercussions for undesirable posters with this new system than there are now, given the above.
In fact, just as much would be accomplished if all forum posters were relegated to posting on one and only one character, with the option to show (but not post on) other characters on their account with the click of a button on their avatar.
There is no need to use real-life names, even if creating a larger social network is what is intended. If someone sees me on the forums and wishes to talk with me in game, there is already an avenue for that. If things go well and we mutually decide to ramp up our relationship to exchange personal information - including real-life names - there's already an avenue for that.
So the challenge, I guess, is explaining to everyone just how having real-life names will offer any improvement at all to the system already in place. 'Lifting the veil of anonymity' is not an argument and is hollow at best. Providing a more social environment is also not an argument, seeing as how we have the ability to do so right now - at our own pace and at our own discretion.
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¸.•' .•'¨¨)) Frejya -:¦:-
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This is prob one of the most logical posts Ive seen on the subject posted by one of the wow forum MVPs
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On July 07 2010 11:07 InfiniteIce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 11:04 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 11:00 BlackMagister wrote:On July 07 2010 10:51 Renaissance wrote:I saw this post on the WoW board:
Once this goes live, I will never post on the forums again. I'll probably stop browsing them too.
I'm a girl, a girl with a pretty rare name. If you put my first and last name in quotes and google it, 13 pages of results come up, only 5 of them are in English. 4 of them are about me. First English result is a page about a play i was in 7 years ago, which includes a picture of me (and i still look pretty much the same).
The next three are the results from bowling tournaments I have been in. One of which has a photo of me because I did well. The 5th is some site that says to "find people with this name!" which has no info for my name. I don't have my facebook or anything like that under my real full name. I normally just shorten it so people can't really search for me.
So I post something on the forums and people will know my real name. By googling my name you can
*get photos of me
*find out my hobbies
*find out where (and with a bit of digging, when) I do my hobbies
*who some of my friends are (some of the bowling tournaments list my teammates)
* and find out the area i live in.
likelihood that someone will track me down and do bad things to me? slim to none.
Something I'm really willing to risk even if it probably would never happen? No
But beyond that, I'll be looking for a new job next year, I would hate to have a potential employer google my name, and read what I've said on here. Do I normally troll? No, I'd say 80% of my posts are just quick questions that I googled and couldn't find the answer, knowing that I could get a quick answer here.
The other 20% are my arguing about abortion, religion, random silliness and other junk in the OT forums or me falling for a troll.
I'm not a huge poster, So me not posting isn't going to change anything, but I do love these forums. I hope something changes before this goes live. Even assigning us a handle/nickname and having said nicknames link to a list of all our toons would be fine with me. But this Real ID thing has to go.
TL:DR: version
Do Not Want
Yes you can find me by googling my name
Don't want future employers to see me in the OT forums
Yes, I know that it wont be a big deal when I quit posting.
Do Not Want
And to people who say "Oh I will never post there", chances are you probably will. You may have a rare technical problem. You may want to sign up for a tournament. In my opinion, Activision Blizzard is not doing this because of the trolls. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it so that they have control not only on an online level, but real life as well. This is what the third post by a girl with a rare name that fears what people can do when their full name is posted. It's a problem for some people I don't see how that can't be seen. If your a minority, you want to say something controversial that could make someone mad or job background checks. No harassment doesn't happen to everyone. No you don't have to post on the forums. However you should be able to post on the forums, the " If you don't like then leave!" is not a good argument. Why is it not a good argument? Are girls are going to face severe harassment because their graphics cards are incompatible with Cataclysm? What the fuck? Read the rest of the thread and stop trolling. Seriously. You're getting aggravating.
Leave me alone, man. I hate to sink to your level, but no one has pointed out why girls "with uncommon names" looking for tech support on Blizzard forums are in mortal danger. So bug off.
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On July 07 2010 11:09 BlackMagister wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 11:04 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 11:00 BlackMagister wrote:On July 07 2010 10:51 Renaissance wrote:I saw this post on the WoW board:
Once this goes live, I will never post on the forums again. I'll probably stop browsing them too.
I'm a girl, a girl with a pretty rare name. If you put my first and last name in quotes and google it, 13 pages of results come up, only 5 of them are in English. 4 of them are about me. First English result is a page about a play i was in 7 years ago, which includes a picture of me (and i still look pretty much the same).
The next three are the results from bowling tournaments I have been in. One of which has a photo of me because I did well. The 5th is some site that says to "find people with this name!" which has no info for my name. I don't have my facebook or anything like that under my real full name. I normally just shorten it so people can't really search for me.
So I post something on the forums and people will know my real name. By googling my name you can
*get photos of me
*find out my hobbies
*find out where (and with a bit of digging, when) I do my hobbies
*who some of my friends are (some of the bowling tournaments list my teammates)
* and find out the area i live in.
likelihood that someone will track me down and do bad things to me? slim to none.
Something I'm really willing to risk even if it probably would never happen? No
But beyond that, I'll be looking for a new job next year, I would hate to have a potential employer google my name, and read what I've said on here. Do I normally troll? No, I'd say 80% of my posts are just quick questions that I googled and couldn't find the answer, knowing that I could get a quick answer here.
The other 20% are my arguing about abortion, religion, random silliness and other junk in the OT forums or me falling for a troll.
I'm not a huge poster, So me not posting isn't going to change anything, but I do love these forums. I hope something changes before this goes live. Even assigning us a handle/nickname and having said nicknames link to a list of all our toons would be fine with me. But this Real ID thing has to go.
TL:DR: version
Do Not Want
Yes you can find me by googling my name
Don't want future employers to see me in the OT forums
Yes, I know that it wont be a big deal when I quit posting.
Do Not Want
And to people who say "Oh I will never post there", chances are you probably will. You may have a rare technical problem. You may want to sign up for a tournament. In my opinion, Activision Blizzard is not doing this because of the trolls. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it so that they have control not only on an online level, but real life as well. This is what the third post by a girl with a rare name that fears what people can do when their full name is posted. It's a problem for some people I don't see how that can't be seen. If your a minority, you want to say something controversial that could make someone mad or job background checks. No harassment doesn't happen to everyone. No you don't have to post on the forums. However you should be able to post on the forums, the " If you don't like then leave!" is not a good argument. Why is it not a good argument? Are girls are going to face severe harassment because their graphics cards are incompatible with Cataclysm? Should girls have to manage what they say for fear of harassment? The quoted girl talks about abortion and religion, those debates can be heated, guess girls need to stay out. Girls can also face harassment simply for being girls. Like the female posts quoted said they have unique names. You see a girl's name, you can look it up.
So don't talk about abortion and religion the official Blizzard forums?
I'm not even sure you can talk about abortion and religion on the official Blizzard forums.
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On July 07 2010 10:58 Alsn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 10:54 Oathmaster wrote:Name is Mark Benjamin Bourgeois as well, for those who seem to think it matters to know I'm serious with my post That you are willing to post your name is commendable, but let's say 9/11 hadn't happened yet and you had a blizzard account. Let's say your name was Muhammed Abdullah and you had a bnet account and had been an occasional poster, now 9/11 hits and we all know who were behind that. Would you still like your name to be shown publicly on the forums, knowing what you now know about how public perception of muslims have changed since 9/11, however irrational and bigoted that is? I don't even think you can imagine how it feels to be someone who doesn't have the luxury of feeling "safe". I know I sure don't, but I've spoken with people who do(a friends relative lived in east germany).
Well assuming I was not infact the one Muhammed that caused the 9/11 incident and you wanted blood, it just shows how sad our society truly is, when people can't truly think about the what if.
In truth, I'd probably be more shameful/embarrassed if I was born in the middle east perhaps then just the name itself would have me feel when 9/11 happened, though I can't be truly honest since I am safe from your theory, but since we had people with redirected flights to my city after the incident for about a week, and it was a tragic time even being up here  . So I can at least understand your statement
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On July 07 2010 11:04 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 11:00 BlackMagister wrote:On July 07 2010 10:51 Renaissance wrote:I saw this post on the WoW board:
Once this goes live, I will never post on the forums again. I'll probably stop browsing them too.
I'm a girl, a girl with a pretty rare name. If you put my first and last name in quotes and google it, 13 pages of results come up, only 5 of them are in English. 4 of them are about me. First English result is a page about a play i was in 7 years ago, which includes a picture of me (and i still look pretty much the same).
The next three are the results from bowling tournaments I have been in. One of which has a photo of me because I did well. The 5th is some site that says to "find people with this name!" which has no info for my name. I don't have my facebook or anything like that under my real full name. I normally just shorten it so people can't really search for me.
So I post something on the forums and people will know my real name. By googling my name you can
*get photos of me
*find out my hobbies
*find out where (and with a bit of digging, when) I do my hobbies
*who some of my friends are (some of the bowling tournaments list my teammates)
* and find out the area i live in.
likelihood that someone will track me down and do bad things to me? slim to none.
Something I'm really willing to risk even if it probably would never happen? No
But beyond that, I'll be looking for a new job next year, I would hate to have a potential employer google my name, and read what I've said on here. Do I normally troll? No, I'd say 80% of my posts are just quick questions that I googled and couldn't find the answer, knowing that I could get a quick answer here.
The other 20% are my arguing about abortion, religion, random silliness and other junk in the OT forums or me falling for a troll.
I'm not a huge poster, So me not posting isn't going to change anything, but I do love these forums. I hope something changes before this goes live. Even assigning us a handle/nickname and having said nicknames link to a list of all our toons would be fine with me. But this Real ID thing has to go.
TL:DR: version
Do Not Want
Yes you can find me by googling my name
Don't want future employers to see me in the OT forums
Yes, I know that it wont be a big deal when I quit posting.
Do Not Want
And to people who say "Oh I will never post there", chances are you probably will. You may have a rare technical problem. You may want to sign up for a tournament. In my opinion, Activision Blizzard is not doing this because of the trolls. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it so that they have control not only on an online level, but real life as well. This is what the third post by a girl with a rare name that fears what people can do when their full name is posted. It's a problem for some people I don't see how that can't be seen. If your a minority, you want to say something controversial that could make someone mad or job background checks. No harassment doesn't happen to everyone. No you don't have to post on the forums. However you should be able to post on the forums, the " If you don't like then leave!" is not a good argument. Why is it not a good argument? Are girls are going to face severe harassment because their graphics cards are incompatible with Cataclysm? Because the ones that aren't already afraid of harassment might not be so prudent as that poster and simply abstain from using the forums?
Someone being harassed for simply being who they are were born as can never be excused by "they should've known better than being born". If you get in trouble for being a rude asshole on a completely optional forum then I could see where you were coming from(but I still wouldn't agree with you) but that's just not the case here.
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Leave me alone, man. I hate to sink to your level, but no one has pointed out why girls "with uncommon names" looking for tech support on Blizzard forums are in mortal danger. So bug off.
Do you have a female friend that is playing some sort of online game?
i have.And she got constantly nasty whipser that IRL would be considerded sexual Harrasment.
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On July 07 2010 11:09 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 11:07 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 11:04 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 11:00 BlackMagister wrote:On July 07 2010 10:51 Renaissance wrote:I saw this post on the WoW board:
Once this goes live, I will never post on the forums again. I'll probably stop browsing them too.
I'm a girl, a girl with a pretty rare name. If you put my first and last name in quotes and google it, 13 pages of results come up, only 5 of them are in English. 4 of them are about me. First English result is a page about a play i was in 7 years ago, which includes a picture of me (and i still look pretty much the same).
The next three are the results from bowling tournaments I have been in. One of which has a photo of me because I did well. The 5th is some site that says to "find people with this name!" which has no info for my name. I don't have my facebook or anything like that under my real full name. I normally just shorten it so people can't really search for me.
So I post something on the forums and people will know my real name. By googling my name you can
*get photos of me
*find out my hobbies
*find out where (and with a bit of digging, when) I do my hobbies
*who some of my friends are (some of the bowling tournaments list my teammates)
* and find out the area i live in.
likelihood that someone will track me down and do bad things to me? slim to none.
Something I'm really willing to risk even if it probably would never happen? No
But beyond that, I'll be looking for a new job next year, I would hate to have a potential employer google my name, and read what I've said on here. Do I normally troll? No, I'd say 80% of my posts are just quick questions that I googled and couldn't find the answer, knowing that I could get a quick answer here.
The other 20% are my arguing about abortion, religion, random silliness and other junk in the OT forums or me falling for a troll.
I'm not a huge poster, So me not posting isn't going to change anything, but I do love these forums. I hope something changes before this goes live. Even assigning us a handle/nickname and having said nicknames link to a list of all our toons would be fine with me. But this Real ID thing has to go.
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Do Not Want
Yes you can find me by googling my name
Don't want future employers to see me in the OT forums
Yes, I know that it wont be a big deal when I quit posting.
Do Not Want
And to people who say "Oh I will never post there", chances are you probably will. You may have a rare technical problem. You may want to sign up for a tournament. In my opinion, Activision Blizzard is not doing this because of the trolls. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it so that they have control not only on an online level, but real life as well. This is what the third post by a girl with a rare name that fears what people can do when their full name is posted. It's a problem for some people I don't see how that can't be seen. If your a minority, you want to say something controversial that could make someone mad or job background checks. No harassment doesn't happen to everyone. No you don't have to post on the forums. However you should be able to post on the forums, the " If you don't like then leave!" is not a good argument. Why is it not a good argument? Are girls are going to face severe harassment because their graphics cards are incompatible with Cataclysm? What the fuck? Read the rest of the thread and stop trolling. Seriously. You're getting aggravating. Leave me alone, man. I hate to sink to your level, but no one has pointed out why girls "with uncommon names" looking for tech support on Blizzard forums are in mortal danger. So bug off.
I didn't realize that anybody had to explain why girls were a target on the internet.
Seriously? Do you not understand this? There are only two conclusions:
a) ignorant as to why girls are a target in a male-dominated consumerist (video game) industry, much less the INTERNET. Or
b) trolling in order to create incendiary reactions to your posts.
Nobody has to tell you why females are a target on the internet.
If you really want an explanation of the male mind and the existence of the penis on males, and how that works on the internet, I suggest you visit /b/ for a few minutes. And check your pants.
Why unique names are a factor in this has been explained a multitude of times in this thread already, so I don't have to explain that.
Girls, unique names. The two factors. You have no more reason to not understand.
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