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I laughed when I saw that the CNN page you linked says:
CNN values your privacy. 'Cause Blizzard sure doesn't!
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
I don't get it. You happily dump all your private information to public sites like Facebook, and then whine that someone is able to find that info using your name?
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To contribute, provide feedback, solve technical issues. There is a myriad of reasons to use the forums.
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From what Blizzard Activision has been doing it really seems that they want to force merge the virtual and real worlds. What ever comes out of this it will set a significant the precedent for the future.
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I personally feel the whole "troll" excuse is a major cop-out by Blizz. If they really cared about all the useless threads on the b-net forums they should just hire more mods and give a big "USER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR THIS POST"
Last night i skimmed over the b-net forums and saw 50 posts by the same guy saying phase 2 was up. The posts stayed up for a long time and nothing was done. As a person who has just returned to Sc after many years I can honestly say that I have never found any useful information about this game from the official forums, I blame that on Blizz.
I believe their ultimate goal is to create a gamer version of Myspace, Facebook,etc.. The problem with that is that gaming for many of us is an escape from everyday life, not an extension of it. Often when I play I DON'T want to be bothered, I DON'T want to chat, I just want to tit down for a couple hours forget about my day and blow some shit up. I'm one of those people that likes to keep the different parts of my life separated, I don't socialize with people from work, I keep game friends in game and girlfriends in different area codes. As far as the whole real name when posting, sure you lose a lot of trolls, but, you also lose a lot of people that may have something worthwhile to post as well.
Then again as you can tell from my post count I don't often have much to say so I guess this won't affect me much, FOR NOW. who knows what plans Blizz has for the future.
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Disclaimer: IANAL. (Also, this wouldn't really apply to blizzard as they are not a Swedish corporation, but the point here is that we have laws to protect against these kind of things, so it is a big deal.)
I'm actually pretty sure it would be illegal for blizzard to publicly display my real name according to swedish law(for anyone interested in reading and being proficient in the Swedish language, check the following link).
Basically, your real name is regarded as sensitive private information and cannot be displayed without your express permission, and having no option of not displaying it when trying to get tech support on their forum would probably constitute a breach of that law.
Even if they did include some clause that said "if you post on this forum, you approve of us displaying your real name" I'm not entirely sure something like that would stand up in Swedish court as EULAs are far less binding around here than in the US.
To all you people defending this move, what god given right do you have to speak for everyone else? You may be fine with this, that doesn't mean everyone else has to be. Saying posting on the forums is optional isn't good enough when things like tech support are included in this supposed "optional feature".
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over 11000 posts about this on WoW forums now if you think its not so bad? read through all of the posts and think again
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On July 07 2010 09:58 Random() wrote: I don't get it. You happily dump all your private information to public sites like Facebook, and then whine that someone is able to find that info using your name? I don't, and that's the way I want to keep it, and that includes Blizz forums.
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I guess it's a bit late for it now, but it would have been good for the OP to also include a question 'do you use the official forums now' question to see how relevant it is.
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On July 07 2010 09:58 Random() wrote: I don't get it. You happily dump all your private information to public sites like Facebook, and then whine that someone is able to find that info using your name? No I don't. There's a reason I don't use facebook either.
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On July 07 2010 09:59 Alsn wrote:Disclaimer: IANAL. I'm actually pretty sure it would be illegal for blizzard to publicly display my real name according to swedish law(for anyone interested in reading and being proficient in the Swedish language, check the following link). Basically, your real name is regarded as sensitive private information and cannot be displayed without your express permission, and having no option of not displaying it when trying to get tech support on their forum would probably constitute a breach of that law. Even if they did include some clause that said "if you post on this forum, you approve of us displaying your real name" I'm not entirely sure something like that would stand up in Swedish court as EULAs are far less binding around here than in the US. To all you people defending this move, what god given right do you have to speak for everyone else? You may be fine with this, that doesn't mean everyone else has to be. Saying posting on the forums is optional isn't good enough when things like tech support are included in this supposed "optional feature".
You don't post there if you don't want, so it's not illegal, you're doing it of your own free will.
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On July 07 2010 09:58 Random() wrote: I don't get it. You happily dump all your private information to public sites like Facebook, and then whine that someone is able to find that info using your name?
except i don't
jesus people..
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On July 07 2010 10:01 Auronz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 09:59 Alsn wrote:Disclaimer: IANAL. I'm actually pretty sure it would be illegal for blizzard to publicly display my real name according to swedish law(for anyone interested in reading and being proficient in the Swedish language, check the following link). Basically, your real name is regarded as sensitive private information and cannot be displayed without your express permission, and having no option of not displaying it when trying to get tech support on their forum would probably constitute a breach of that law. Even if they did include some clause that said "if you post on this forum, you approve of us displaying your real name" I'm not entirely sure something like that would stand up in Swedish court as EULAs are far less binding around here than in the US. To all you people defending this move, what god given right do you have to speak for everyone else? You may be fine with this, that doesn't mean everyone else has to be. Saying posting on the forums is optional isn't good enough when things like tech support are included in this supposed "optional feature". You don't post there if you don't want, so it's not illegal, you're doing it of your own free will. So basically, you are saying they can simply deny me of tech support(or at least one of their tech support channels) if I'm not willing to disclose my real name?
The point is still hypothetical(since, again, they're not Swedish) and I edited my post to say that I was merely trying to prove a point, not to actually claim that they would be actually become liable in court.
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Wait, how the fuck will this reduce trolling? There are so many loopholes in this plan that I can name. Does Blizzard want people to go seeking vengeance on other players who call them a noob? Like many people have stated before, get some intelligent moderators that ban users that abuse the forums. My experience with the blizzard forums is that for every interesting thread there are 10 other threads that have been repeated or are void of common sense. Well, it's not like I use the damn blizzard forums anyways so I'm not concerned as much as the WoW players.
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On July 07 2010 09:59 Alsn wrote:Disclaimer: IANAL. I'm actually pretty sure it would be illegal for blizzard to publicly display my real name according to swedish law(for anyone interested in reading and being proficient in the Swedish language, check the following link). Basically, your real name is regarded as sensitive private information and cannot be displayed without your express permission, and having no option of not displaying it when trying to get tech support on their forum would probably constitute a breach of that law. Even if they did include some clause that said "if you post on this forum, you approve of us displaying your real name" I'm not entirely sure something like that would stand up in Swedish court as EULAs are far less binding around here than in the US. To all you people defending this move, what god given right do you have to speak for everyone else? You may be fine with this, that doesn't mean everyone else has to be. Saying posting on the forums is optional isn't good enough when things like tech support are included in this supposed "optional feature". They haven't announced it on European forums yet but like you I see even a bigger shitstorm coming if this goes forward this is the kind of stuff that can get to the European parlament... Remember wen internet providers wanted to associate individuals to illegal downloads?
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On July 07 2010 10:04 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 09:58 Random() wrote: I don't get it. You happily dump all your private information to public sites like Facebook, and then whine that someone is able to find that info using your name? except i don't jesus people.. Then what are people going to find out about you through Google? :D
Your address, maybe; your phone number, maybe -- but nothing more complicated that a phone book search would tell you.
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On the bright side, this is a chance for my alter ego, Cornelius Weatherby III, to finally get the spotlight! Do not fuck with Sir Weatherby. He knows 6 forms of martial arts and has a private army of ninjas.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
On July 07 2010 10:00 miltondtf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 09:58 Random() wrote: I don't get it. You happily dump all your private information to public sites like Facebook, and then whine that someone is able to find that info using your name? I don't, and that's the way I want to keep it, and that includes Blizz forums.
I definitely don't see the point of doing that, but I also don't see what is all the fuss about. If you didn't voluntarily give away your private information yourself in the first place, then giving away your name means nothing.
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On July 07 2010 10:06 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 10:04 travis wrote:On July 07 2010 09:58 Random() wrote: I don't get it. You happily dump all your private information to public sites like Facebook, and then whine that someone is able to find that info using your name? except i don't jesus people.. Then what are people going to find out about you through Google? :D Your address, maybe; your phone number, maybe -- but nothing more complicated that a phone book search would tell you.
.. which they couldn't do IF I DIDNT HAVE TO POST MY NAME
honestly, you just made my point for me. congratulations.
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