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Oh, for Heaven's sake... yes, there are very annoying things that can be done knowing somebody's personal information. And no, I'm not talking about possible but extremely unlikely knives to the gut from a Counterstrike player. As an example: consider some typical "security questions" for password reset, like "What school did you graduate from?" and "What was your mother's maiden name?" Knowing personal information like that can effectively compromise entire online accounts - not necessarily Blizzard ones, by the way.
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On July 07 2010 06:19 Jalex wrote: Absolutely astonishing idea by Blizzard. I honestly don't think they have thought it through at all.
As someone with a rare name (google my full name, and I come up as the first hit), there is no way on earth I will ever post on their forums again. This isn't such a big deal as I rarely do so anyway, but I am annoyed at the loss of access to the Tech Support forums which have proved useful in the past. Do you seriously think that pursuing tech support is going to spell certain doom for you?
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Well ... call me Lorenzo, Lorenzo van Matterhorn.
cheers
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On the plus side, people like this will cease to post, or cease to post on multiple named, making it easier to either ban or ignore them.
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On July 07 2010 06:21 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 06:19 Jalex wrote: Absolutely astonishing idea by Blizzard. I honestly don't think they have thought it through at all.
As someone with a rare name (google my full name, and I come up as the first hit), there is no way on earth I will ever post on their forums again. This isn't such a big deal as I rarely do so anyway, but I am annoyed at the loss of access to the Tech Support forums which have proved useful in the past. Do you seriously think that pursuing tech support is going to spell certain doom for you?
I could write "Do you seriously think that" in front of the majority of what you wrote in this thread.
Clearly, you and others do not see eye to eye on this issue. Probably not a great idea to use it as an argument.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2010 06:17 damiah wrote: some amazing ignorance in this thread -
the people who are saying, "omg, google me! here's my name, robert paulson!" are missing the point. just because you do not care about your personal information being publicized, does not mean others don't, and that definitely does not mean it should be forced upon anyone. just because you are OK with something does not mean that everyone else is. to adopt this mindset is incredibly narrow-minded.
as for the absurd posts saying, "if you don't have anything to hide lol!": read any of the humorous quotes from bash.org involving any of the following: drugs, sex, video games, etc - and tell me if any of them would be posted if there were real names tied to it. people don't want their real names associated with the Internet, and it's completely understandable. a person cannot possibly be a model citizen 100% of the time to all of their acquaintances (see: work, school, friends, family) and enjoy the luxuries of a modern-day lifestyle. if you can, then very good for you, that's quite a feat. however, you should see that it is unreasonable for everyone to look to Beethoven's Ninth Symphony as their primary source of entertainment. not only that, but this is the argument used by the Bush administration. "if you don't have anything to hide, then I suppose you don't mind me listening in on your phone conversations!" it's completely fallacious.
again, fine if you have absolutely nothing to hide from your family, friends, coworkers, and peers, but I would wager that most people talk differently to their mother than they do to their friends. Again, we are not talking about the end of anonymity on the Entire Internet.
We are talking about the end of anonymity on a set of official forums that currently have NO community at all.
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it seems Blizzard is doing everything in their power to destroy the SC2 community
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On July 07 2010 06:14 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 06:14 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 06:09 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 07 2010 06:04 kajeus wrote:This system means that the following groups of people cannot reasonably post:
- Famous people - Women - People in public or similiarly high profile employment
The first two will simply be completely swamped by idiots, the last one will risk getting in trouble. This is so silly. How many famous people are going to visit the Blizzard forums? And how exactly are they going to be "swamped by idiots" in a non-anonymous forum environment? Do you really think women will have that big a problem? It's non-anonymous! Who's going to be a creeper, and who is going to post so much that it'll be significant anyway? People, we're not talking about a new Internet. We're talking about new Blizzard forums. Don't post there if you don't want to -- they probably don't want you posting there anyway. Stick to TL. 1) There are plenty of examples of famous people playing WoW etc. 2) http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/ammminal/stupidpeople.jpg My point was not that they don't play WoW. My point was that very few of them will have any desire to post on the official forums -- making them a very small percentage of the userbase, and not a huge source of concern. But I think it's safe to say that if Robin Williams were, for some reason, routinely harassed on the non-anonymous Blizzard WoW forums, he would be watched out for by moderators. So now because of having real names on the forums we have to have private mod teams dedicated to individuals? Its a huge mess now.
hehehe i'm just happy because it's not only a Starcraft 2 Problem. It's a WOW issue also... meaning 12million people :D.
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It's my business if I want to be proud of who I am to the extent of telling everyone about it, or if I want to create an internet persona and not attach my gaming habits to my real name. You may not be experiencing this yourself, but a GREAT many people are, in their own lives, connected to a lot of ignorant, selfish, volatile, presumptuous, and WORSE people, who we none the less love and don't want to have to cut ourselves off from.
This being the case, use at least 2% of your imagination and think about just a few of the myriad reasons you might want or even NEED to hide your real name on the public internet to avoid friction with your real life situation. Do you have any family members that google your name on a weekly basis looking for dirt, and then email you about it? Email your mom? Post on your facebook (I've long, long since disabled my facebook due to these behaviors)? Are you related to politically active fundamentalist christians who would be extremely angry about you playing and supporting "the devil's games?" Hey! All of the above are part of my situation. I don't post on the WoW boards, ever, and I certainly won't after this,
This is an extremely bad precedent for the internet as a whole for a vast number of reasons, and I really weep and face-palm at all the people without the imagination to think outside their own tiny little situation and see how this change might affect other people. So you sit around here defending this change with your little presumptions and party lines. Man, if only you could see yourselves as I see you.
Don't you get the feeling that you're being straight up dicked with like a little toy soldier? Like some corporate asshole is sitting in his office trying to solve problems he doesn't understand, from a bird's eye view with no connection to the problems the solution is causing? Are you really so naive as to think THERE'S NO DANGER in using your real name on the internet? Do you think that the countless places it's already being used changes the fact that using it in more places is a BAD IDEA? Don't you get that this a very bad precedent which needs to be vehemently opposed so it doesn't become the norm? When Activision and Blizzard do the same thing with the next game and the next game, and the game after that, and then EA and 2K do it too, will you just keep accepting it? Will you accept the idea that "well, I don't want to post my real name on the public internet, I guess I'm not allowed to post anywhere" one day, maybe less than a decade away?
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On July 07 2010 06:23 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 06:21 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 06:19 Jalex wrote: Absolutely astonishing idea by Blizzard. I honestly don't think they have thought it through at all.
As someone with a rare name (google my full name, and I come up as the first hit), there is no way on earth I will ever post on their forums again. This isn't such a big deal as I rarely do so anyway, but I am annoyed at the loss of access to the Tech Support forums which have proved useful in the past. Do you seriously think that pursuing tech support is going to spell certain doom for you? I could write "Do you seriously think that" in front of the majority of what you wrote in this thread. Clearly, you and others do not see eye to eye on this issue. Probably not a great idea to use it as an argument. Do you use a pseudonym when you go to CompUSA for help with your computer, or...?
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On July 07 2010 06:19 zerglingsfolife wrote: YESSS This is the best change everrrrrr. I can add all the blue posts as friends on Facebook, and then we can be facebook integrated over BNET 2.0 YESSSS I knew this was Blizzards master plan all along! I'm going to have so many new facebook buddies. <3
On July 07 2010 06:24 Gedrah wrote: *long and excellent post* Absolutely perfectly stated.
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On July 07 2010 06:01 Salv wrote: I don't post there, nor do I ever plan to, but this is indicative of Blizzards entire line of thought. We will tell you what you want, we know best. Fuck you Blizzard.
To be fair, there have been dozens... hundreds of times where people would cast doubt on Blizzard's actions or decisions (specifically regarding game design) and the vocal minority would always rally to say "Blizzard knows best." Most of the time things worked out for the better. I can't speculate as to whether that arguably blind faith fueled their collective ego to the point of forging a RealID system, but it didn't discourage it.
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This is completely and utterly insane and retarded. IN.SANE!
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Right now, Blizzard's strategy of "take out features that limit trolls" is really hurting the gamers. They say chat rooms are full of spam and trolls, so they remove chat rooms. They say forums are full of spam and trolls, so they make it so half the people that post on the forums wont post in fear for their safety/privacy.
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On July 07 2010 06:23 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 06:21 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 06:19 Jalex wrote: Absolutely astonishing idea by Blizzard. I honestly don't think they have thought it through at all.
As someone with a rare name (google my full name, and I come up as the first hit), there is no way on earth I will ever post on their forums again. This isn't such a big deal as I rarely do so anyway, but I am annoyed at the loss of access to the Tech Support forums which have proved useful in the past. Do you seriously think that pursuing tech support is going to spell certain doom for you? I could write "Do you seriously think that" in front of the majority of what you wrote in this thread. Clearly, you and others do not see eye to eye on this issue. Probably not a great idea to use it as an argument. Well im certainly not going to ever post there This makes absolutely nice sense to do in general :S
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@ghosthunter Well i am actually trashing and protesting against Blizzard for quite some while now, for a different reason, ghosthunter - this is just a cherry/coincidence. But why not share your name, if you're so comfortable with this? Don't let me call you ghosthunter, please. I wanna know your name so i can find out where you live, then print and mail you this a3 in 6 copies.
GET MY POINT?
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On July 07 2010 05:49 thopol wrote: (kids...)
The problem being that the kids don't weigh anonymity as strongly. Look at how many folks here don't think that there's a potential employment liability involved. What proportion of the people that will be turned away by the new policy will be careful and considerate adults? What proportion will be shortsighted children who are accustomed to having private information public on social network sites?
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thank you, at last someone else says it sc2 forums are "also" aimed at kids (who don't know much about self preservation)
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On July 07 2010 06:24 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 06:23 keV. wrote:On July 07 2010 06:21 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 06:19 Jalex wrote: Absolutely astonishing idea by Blizzard. I honestly don't think they have thought it through at all.
As someone with a rare name (google my full name, and I come up as the first hit), there is no way on earth I will ever post on their forums again. This isn't such a big deal as I rarely do so anyway, but I am annoyed at the loss of access to the Tech Support forums which have proved useful in the past. Do you seriously think that pursuing tech support is going to spell certain doom for you? I could write "Do you seriously think that" in front of the majority of what you wrote in this thread. Clearly, you and others do not see eye to eye on this issue. Probably not a great idea to use it as an argument. Do you use a pseudonym when you go to CompUSA for help with your computer, or...?
Before I post what I want to say, I agree with some of what you are saying: that being, "its the battle.net forums, it was terrible anyway who gives a shit" and you are 100% correct in that regard. I'm just not content to let this go without voicing concerns because it is absolutely a step down a slippery slope for gamer privacy in my opinion.
You might as well ask, "Do you really thing going to the paladin forum is going to spell certain doom for you" It doesn't matter where it is, people are trying to avoid real life association with WORLD OF WARCRAFT. Not the topic they post in...
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