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Posting this here from the WoW boards because I think it is well stated and am sick of the argument.
Q u o t e:
I wonder how many of you have a facebook with your real name attached to it, have no problem with that info being out there all over the internet but get a puckered anus about this
Facebook is SUPPOSED to be full of personal information, much of it what you choose to reveal. It's to network with people you know IRL, for the most part.
WoW is not Facebook. WoW is not a social networking website. Most people on WoW have no desire to reveal their real names through the game, and for good reason. To even try drawing a parallel between the two is sheer idiocy.
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On July 07 2010 03:43 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:38 McDonalds wrote:On July 07 2010 03:30 Myles wrote:On July 07 2010 03:27 Kishime wrote:
Who cares?
My name is Jim O'Hearn. Have at me!!!!
IMO, unless you are a complete troll who everyone hates, nobody is going to try to get your personal info or care what your name is. And you doubt that those people exist? It's called 4chan. There's no doubt that something happening would be rare, but I guarantee that it will happen if this goes through. I don't mean to alarm you but unwarranted self-importance is one of the few things that would make them want to do that to you in the first place. The chances of anyone looking you up, much less trying to harass you, are pretty slim. I'm positive that it will happen to somebody on the first day now just based on how much complaining people are doing, but you're not going to get an acid bomb in the mail. I used to be a moderator on a big MMO and the number of serious death threats were quite scary. Im not talking about the odd i will kill you threat I am talking about serious stalking campaigns aimed at trying to find out info using mulitple accounts. Statistically it was still rare but it increases the chances of a drugged up nutter losing it over a 6 pool and finding out you only live up the road.
I don't doubt that you're telling the truth but did you or anyone else you worked with have an actual problem related to this? Some people tried really hard to find out some information about you and... then what? Just curious.
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On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks!
Michael David Mulloy II
Gozoku@gmail.com
http://www.facebook.com/#!/michael.mulloy
Have fun?
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On July 07 2010 03:44 Keren wrote:
How many of you complaining about privacy have a facebook? You can be as private with it as you want, but I can almost guarantee you at some point during their privacy changes, most of your information got stored in a cache out there somewhere. Does it really seem reasonable to be so worried about posting under your real name on an SC forum when many more intimate details of your life are assuredly out there already?
I do not have a facebook account. So I guess that's at least one lol.
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On July 07 2010 03:44 Keren wrote:
How many of you complaining about privacy have a facebook? You can be as private with it as you want, but I can almost guarantee you at some point during their privacy changes, most of your information got stored in a cache out there somewhere. Does it really seem reasonable to be so worried about posting under your real name on an SC forum when many more intimate details of your life are assuredly out there already?
The only info I have on facebook is my real name, friends and pictures, I'm not worried about people searching me on facebook because there isn't much to find on it, especially if you're not on my friends list.
Googling on the other hand can reveal more information about me.
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On July 07 2010 03:47 Kishime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:45 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:42 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:38 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:34 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:32 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:27 Kishime wrote:
My name is Jim O'Hearn. Have at me!!!!
A bunch of people like you have already made posts just like the one you made and a few posts later someone posts thier identifying info. I know you think your being clever. Your not. And what is the negative associated with someone posting my "identifying info?" I am not even going to dignify this kind of stupidity with an answer. AKA you have no answer. Nobody cares who I am or who you are. Nothing would happen. LOL I keep forgeting there are still people out there who dont know its important to protect their privacy online. Its nice to meet one finally. Oh and if you want info Yahoo usually runs an article like once a week to remind soccer moms and such about common sense things like this. I'm still waiting for you to tell me what would happen to me because someone knows my first and last name after choosing to reveal it on a video game forum.
Don't tell them, let them be blissfully ignorant of identify theft and blackmail/threats
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On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks!
You're not the first person to post this and you won't be the second person I reply to about it.
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On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks!
Blizzard is only showing your First and Last name, not all the credentials you're stating. And I'll bite on your challenge: Gregory Dodd.
Have fun.
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On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks!
Patrick Francis Soulliere II
iccup.diamond(at)gmail.com
Bnet account name is same email.
http://www.facebook.com/Diamondback2
Have fun!
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Just another reason to never, ever use the official bnet forums.
I bet this is their attempt at stopping trolls.
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On July 07 2010 03:47 Kishime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:45 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:42 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:38 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:34 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:32 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:27 Kishime wrote:
My name is Jim O'Hearn. Have at me!!!!
A bunch of people like you have already made posts just like the one you made and a few posts later someone posts thier identifying info. I know you think your being clever. Your not. And what is the negative associated with someone posting my "identifying info?" I am not even going to dignify this kind of stupidity with an answer. AKA you have no answer. Nobody cares who I am or who you are. Nothing would happen. LOL I keep forgeting there are still people out there who dont know its important to protect their privacy online. Its nice to meet one finally. Oh and if you want info Yahoo usually runs an article like once a week to remind soccer moms and such about common sense things like this. I'm still waiting for you to tell me what would happen to me because someone knows my first and last name after choosing to reveal it on a video game forum.
Here's the situation, unlikely, but 100% possible now when it wasn't before.
You post something there about balance. Someone else posts that your wrong and you have a argument. Now some random person, not even the one you were talking to, can read that thread and decide you're worthy of harassment. They google your name, find your address and phone number, and maybe some of your relatives info as well. That isn't a big deal? It has happened just a month ago. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Counter-Strike-FPS-Knife-Fight,10543.html
The fact is that a situation like that will be extremely rare. But there are crazy people out there and I would rather not give them the opportunity.
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On July 07 2010 03:42 keV. wrote:You guys have the wrong idea. Playing a video game shouldn't have the TINIEST bit of impact on your private life as a human being. It's very unlikely that someone would get stalked, or murdered but it happens. Saying it doesn't is just a bald-faced lie. This happened in May: Video-game-fanatic-hunts-down-and-stabs-rival-player-who-killed-character-online.htmlForget the "code reds" like this, and focus on smaller things. A business owner who has to decide between two equally qualified job candidates, an angry ex or friend, a keylogger who ruins your name... For what? The possibility that shitty forums might be less shitty? It is just not worth it.
good thing that they dont have play quake 3 with Chainsaw.
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"Awesome, so now when a chick I'm interested in decides to google me, she'll find my closet-gamer habit. Then there are potential employers. . ."
exactly the way I felt, no way I'm ever going to post there ^^
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On July 07 2010 03:53 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Patrick Francis Soulliere II
Have fun!
High five Roman Numeral buddy.
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On July 07 2010 03:52 LSGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:47 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:45 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:42 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:38 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:34 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:32 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:27 Kishime wrote:
My name is Jim O'Hearn. Have at me!!!!
A bunch of people like you have already made posts just like the one you made and a few posts later someone posts thier identifying info. I know you think your being clever. Your not. And what is the negative associated with someone posting my "identifying info?" I am not even going to dignify this kind of stupidity with an answer. AKA you have no answer. Nobody cares who I am or who you are. Nothing would happen. LOL I keep forgeting there are still people out there who dont know its important to protect their privacy online. Its nice to meet one finally. Oh and if you want info Yahoo usually runs an article like once a week to remind soccer moms and such about common sense things like this. I'm still waiting for you to tell me what would happen to me because someone knows my first and last name after choosing to reveal it on a video game forum. Don't tell them, let them be blissfully ignorant of identify theft and blackmail/threats
They're not going to display your date of birth and an image of your credit card. No passport numbers. Don't put anything substantial about yourself online and the most you should ever have to deal with is an inconvenience. And even that is unlikely.
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ikkyixo wrote:
"I work for a popular web hosting company, here in the real world. I'm sorry to bust your bubble but, can you even put up a solid arguement to the point I have specified? "
good for you that you seem to have trustworthy employers, still that's not the norm out there, and i don't think when you're applying for any job you'd want to showcase who you are (hobbies etc) but just that you applied for the job and have the requirements to fulfill your contract (that's why the rest is called private)
"I cannot speak to those in other countries as I do not have experience with the laws in those countries."
well.. i have traveled in several...
plus companies should have to be able to choose their future employees not force to hire (although not discriminate...tough call)
"In regards to reporting to the proper authorities, what makes you say that they cannot do anything? Go ahead and send me a death threat. ikkyixo@throwedsociety.com. If you live in America, we'll see who's laughing at the end."
are you sure you said that? i'm so sorry for you that you have asked for that...
but it still goes a long way towards showing that you've been lucky (and i'm certainly happy for you, honest, shit does happen to people), still i'm not one to address hate mail or threats, even less to prove a point
"In regards to mistakes made and long lasting effects, please clarify the mistakes you are referring to in detail and I will reply back with information in detail if what you state is not true."
for example : have you never gone to a demonstration and gotten hit because you were too close to the troublemakers ? or even anywhere whenever just for (justifiably) expressing your discontent?
or how bout wrongful arrests (with the shame or ridicule that goes with it), rumors started by mistake (or worse by people's petty considerations) or even hateful people bashing on or even hurting other people on account of having the wrong name at the wrong time and place...
"There's nothing lucky about me. I experience the real world, not the world you see on TV or read about from someone's speculation. I can post my name here: Gregory S. Dodd. That's how 100% I'm sure of the information that's spewed from my mouth. I've worked in HR for a sales call center which gives me the HR experience I'm telling you. If you can't argue my points with valid points, then I'm sorry, I don't see you."
well too bad you're so POed about my post, sorry it got to you this much, and i still hope you remain that positive about your life experience, still honest
you don't have to have experienced awful things to understand that the privacy on internet is a necessity, there are a lot of people with awful goals and blizz should'nt be helping them (on account of trolls or any other half ass reason like less moderators to pay), but if you'd have you'd want less people to have to go through it
like so many posters said before me, they've got your account number, let them just deal with people that are trouble from that end
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On July 07 2010 03:52 ikkyixo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks! Blizzard is only showing your First and Last name, not all the credentials you're stating. And I'll bite on your challenge: Gregory Dodd. Have fun.
On July 07 2010 03:52 McDonalds wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote:
Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks! You're not the first person to post this and you won't be the second person I reply to about it.
I find it so amusing that people keep posting things like this as proof that it doesn't matter, where, meanwhile, in the Blizzard WoW thread, several people have done the same and been met with tons of their personal information: Including relatives and job history.
To argue that you can't get a lot from just someones name is insane, obviously it is incredibly dependent on the common-ness of the name and internet history. Just because you think you are invincible (and you might be!) that doesn't mean there isn't someone who can be really hurt with just their name available. How can you be that short sighted and selfish? Pay attention to what is being said and think about it a second.
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On July 07 2010 03:55 hifriend wrote:
"Awesome, so now when a chick I'm interested in decides to google me, she'll find my closet-gamer habit. Then there are potential employers. . ."
exactly the way I felt, no way I'm ever going to post there ^^
Why are you a closet gamer in the first place? If you're loud and proud about what you do most chicks won't care......
OMG a employer will know I'm a gamer!!!?!?!?!!?!?!? O wait I would put iccup.com and iccup.tv on a resume.
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On July 07 2010 03:52 LSGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:47 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:45 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:42 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:38 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:34 Kishime wrote:On July 07 2010 03:32 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 07 2010 03:27 Kishime wrote:
My name is Jim O'Hearn. Have at me!!!!
A bunch of people like you have already made posts just like the one you made and a few posts later someone posts thier identifying info. I know you think your being clever. Your not. And what is the negative associated with someone posting my "identifying info?" I am not even going to dignify this kind of stupidity with an answer. AKA you have no answer. Nobody cares who I am or who you are. Nothing would happen. LOL I keep forgeting there are still people out there who dont know its important to protect their privacy online. Its nice to meet one finally. Oh and if you want info Yahoo usually runs an article like once a week to remind soccer moms and such about common sense things like this. I'm still waiting for you to tell me what would happen to me because someone knows my first and last name after choosing to reveal it on a video game forum. Don't tell them, let them be blissfully ignorant of identify theft and blackmail/threats
I can't tell if you're joking or not.
I will say that if I get a letter in my mailbox penned in blood with my social security number, bank account info, pictures of my family gagged in a basement, and also telling me my days are numbered for taking this too lightly, I will admit defeat.
Orrrr... maybe nothing will happen because nobody is going to care enough to do anything to me over a video game argument that I CHOSE TO TAKE PART IN BY POSTING WHERE I KNEW MY FIRST AND LAST NAME WOULD BE REVEALED.
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On July 07 2010 03:54 Myles wrote:
Here's the situation, unlikely, but 100% possible now when it wasn't before.
You post something there about balance. Someone else posts that your wrong and you have a argument.
Blizzard doesn't want you to have arguments. That's the point. Have a debate if you want to, but if you're having an argument that might make somebody want to bother you, then you're doing it wrong.
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