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Fogul
Profile Joined July 2009
United Kingdom179 Posts
July 06 2010 17:34 GMT
#261
I'm really sick of how everything on the internet is becoming so open recently, I can't honestly see what the benefit is to this other then stopping any person with a clue from posting there.
Noggin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
July 06 2010 17:34 GMT
#262
As a website owner... my name is registered to my domains which includes residence information.

"ICANN (the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) requires all accredited registrars to ask their domain administrators/registrants to review domain name contact data annually, and make any changes necessary to ensure accuracy.

Under ICANN rules and the terms of your registration agreement, PROVIDING FALSE CONTACT INFORMATION CAN BE GROUNDS FOR DOMAIN NAME CANCELLATION"

So my name goes to my email (which is half my bnet log-in info) and residence.

Needless to say, I am not a fan.
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
July 06 2010 17:34 GMT
#263
On July 07 2010 02:32 dbddbddb wrote:
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On July 07 2010 02:31 Itsarabbit wrote:
HOLY MACARONI(sorry if this has been posted before)
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is this because of the real id, or is it always this way on their forum?


Get an admin to ban him. problem solved. it's all spam from the same person.
Except you can't, the spamkiddies (Ababmer) will just get yet another CD. No IP ban.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Poyo
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada790 Posts
July 06 2010 17:35 GMT
#264
On July 07 2010 02:32 Kletus wrote:
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On July 07 2010 02:29 Backpack wrote:
Any celebrity doesn't have to worry about people knowing their first/last name, why should I?


THIS. A thousand times this.



Well not everyone wants to be a celebrity is the point.
Poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo!
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:36:52
July 06 2010 17:35 GMT
#265
On July 07 2010 02:33 Tray wrote:
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On July 07 2010 02:26 keV. wrote:
On July 07 2010 02:23 sikyon wrote:
Yea those "simple" solutions will probably work. Should YOUR CONSUMERS have to deal with it? No. Plain and simple.


I was unaware that the forums were an integral part of my Starcraft II purchase.

Personally I am tired of anonimity giving people on the internet the capability to behave like jerks. Besides, a name is not enough information to track someone down. And if you don't like it, don't sign up for the official forums.


It's not an integral part, that doesn't add anything to your argument though.

A name is plenty to track someone down. It's happened many times. Get name, facebook, use deductive reasoning. If I have to explain any farther down the line then that, then you are just not worth talking to.

No one has been able to tell me why just having one name per CD-key is not enough of a deterrent. Please do.


A better question is why do you think it's enough to have 1 CD key per name? It certainly didn't do crap to prevent the trolling/spamming on the beta board, why do you think it would prevent anything in retail? It wouldn't. With real names, do to the conerns brought up here, people will think twice about what they post with their real name attached to it.

And the people who say they will just come up with a phony name will be in for a rude awakening when they're very quickly banned from the forums because they stick out and then when their account is hacked cannot even retrieve it because the name on it doesn't match their real name. People keep saying they'll do this, but they really won't. It's an empty threat. Most people will attach their real name to their account and just post much less often.


Plenty of people have funny sounding REAL names. How is Blizzard going to Sherlock Holmes their way through that one? If this change goes through as described, I will be using a fake name. And that is coming from someone who has never trolled in their life and by Kev. My name is Kevin. It was only an empty threat when the situation wasn't real.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
XFire
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States131 Posts
July 06 2010 17:36 GMT
#266

The Teamliquid forums have always been a great place to discuss the latest info on our games, offer ideas and suggestions, and share experiences with other players

Fix'd, cause that's where everyone's coming after this fuck up.
Jantix
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
July 06 2010 17:36 GMT
#267
On July 07 2010 02:31 keV. wrote:
Still waiting for someone to tell me why it is necessary to use a real name instead of limiting the forum users to one posting account per CD-key.


My thought is the real name is more to stop people from spewing the first thing that comes to their mind and actually put some thought into their posts.

Having something tied to your real name makes you think a bit more than if you can hide behind your alias.

Its about increasing respectable intelligent conversation so that SC2 can become more than a game.

Your average non-gamer going onto battle.net forums is going to be really put off by the amount of crap that is there. Hopefully this change would help offset it a little bit
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 06 2010 17:37 GMT
#268
Considering I never planned to post there anyway, it's not that big of a deal for me.

But still, given the community's massive backlash against the B.net 2.0 real-names-only thing, I can't imagine this idea is any better. Seriously, what the fuck is Blizzard on?
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imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
July 06 2010 17:37 GMT
#269
hahaha, way to complete alienate any chance of the high level players giving input on those forums. Ah well, most of the people I am interested in hearing regarding opinions reside here on TL anyway so this won't change my internet use any.
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
July 06 2010 17:37 GMT
#270
On July 07 2010 02:34 keV. wrote:
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On July 07 2010 02:29 Backpack wrote:

Any celebrity doesn't have to worry about people knowing their first/last name, why should I?



http://www.nzgirl.co.nz/articles/2110

Okay fine, some people did have some issues.

But that's life.

If you want to sit in a basement somewhere and cut yourself off from society, go for it. I am going to venture out into a world of car accidents and crazy stalkers and etc. etc.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
Runaground
Profile Joined February 2010
Moldova36 Posts
July 06 2010 17:37 GMT
#271
I like the idea.
Tell me the reasons, why should I hide my real name? I even have had wc3 battle.net account with my real name. If you are not troll, hacker or bad-mannered, why do you consider it as "the worst idea ever"? Do people in real sports hide there real names? No way.
sikyon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1045 Posts
July 06 2010 17:37 GMT
#272
Why do people feel that they have this right to anonimity over the internet? Why do people feel that they should not be resonsible for what they say? If you are scared someone (like a future employer) is going to take offense at your statements, don't do anything that you wouldn't feel comfortable with them seeing in the first place!
Hann1bal
Profile Joined June 2010
United States46 Posts
July 06 2010 17:38 GMT
#273
I don't understand Blizzard's hard-on for using real names. It's the internet and I prefer to keep anonymous because there are lots of CRAZIES. The people I care about already know my name and are smart enough to see my handle and call me by my real name. It looks like Bliz plans to shrink forum attendance the same way they shrunk my friends list on bnet 2.0. What a joke!
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.
vizniz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
July 06 2010 17:38 GMT
#274
On July 07 2010 02:33 Serotonin wrote:
I can just see this unfolding ...
At first it will be someone tracking another person who mouthed off at them on the forums and assaulting them.
Then the popular or unpopular but really good players will be targets of all those who envy / hate them, hacking their FB / MS accounts posting random weird shit on their sites or creating completely new ones if your name is not already reserved.
And this is the best part, data mining for every person who plays SC2 / WoW and getting sold to adv agencies who will in turn spam those people with either irl advertisements or something of that sort.
Oh oh lets not forget about random girl gamers getting stalked because of their name on the forums by some lonely nerds who want female company.
This is going to be EPIC, can't wait.
Oh man and the poor people with same names as some celebs ???!?! hahaha banned for impersonating a celebrity ?
EPIC I tell you guys !
Oh and they are breaking their own rules, they have a forum code which states no personal information can be released.


I'm sure they'll change there ToS before the change is implemented.
SC2/LoL/Steam: vizniz LoL smurf: visnistehsmurf
Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:40:12
July 06 2010 17:38 GMT
#275
This is ridiculous; have they no concern for privacy anymore? I don't want to have to let the world know who I am just to voice an opinion on their video game. And this just opens the opportunity for more e-stalking; considering the kind of people that lie around there.
Nothing witty here atm
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:39:05
July 06 2010 17:38 GMT
#276
On July 07 2010 02:36 Jantix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 02:31 keV. wrote:
Still waiting for someone to tell me why it is necessary to use a real name instead of limiting the forum users to one posting account per CD-key.


My thought is the real name is more to stop people from spewing the first thing that comes to their mind and actually put some thought into their posts.

Having something tied to your real name makes you think a bit more than if you can hide behind your alias.

Its about increasing respectable intelligent conversation so that SC2 can become more than a game.

Your average non-gamer going onto battle.net forums is going to be really put off by the amount of crap that is there. Hopefully this change would help offset it a little bit


Is forcing 12 million people to use their real name really worth "making you think a bit more" then you would with one posting name?

If you agree then you agree. I just don't.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
f0rk
Profile Joined March 2010
England172 Posts
July 06 2010 17:38 GMT
#277
On July 07 2010 02:32 Alyoshka wrote:
Long time lurker, first time poster....

I am suprised at how the TL community is so anti-real name yet so pro- eSports.

We love Day[9] because he opened up with us and showed us the human element of playing video games as a sport, not just as entertainment. We can connect a name and face.

The internet at large will never lose its anonymity or its amazing and awesome privacy...but if eSports is to be a success, and household names are to be established it needs to be with real names, not aliases.

Can you realistically think of a scenario where eSports thrives and people retain their anonymity?


Day9 hasn't given out his address and I expect has the proper boxes ticked so we can't find it. Not every random idiot does. The risks going with this vastly out weigh having some better forums.
Mjolnir
Profile Joined January 2009
912 Posts
July 06 2010 17:39 GMT
#278
On July 07 2010 02:29 Backpack wrote:
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On July 07 2010 02:23 Mjolnir wrote:
On July 07 2010 02:14 Backpack wrote:
On July 07 2010 02:10 Mjolnir wrote:
On July 07 2010 02:00 Backpack wrote:
On July 07 2010 01:55 Cantankerous wrote:
On July 07 2010 01:44 roflpie wrote:
I don't get it why so many people are afraid that others will find out who you are IRL.


I'll repeat what someone else said earlier. If you think everyone against this is just a cowardly fool then give your name or address in this thread.



Daniel Meyer
On July 07 2010 01:56 Tortfeasor wrote:
This is a colossal mistake. 4chan is going to do terrible terrible damage to any and all blizzard posters.


Yea, all 16 million of them.


Daniel Meyer of North Raleigh / Wake Forest, North Carolina... who likes paintball?

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

If I'm right, I just scared the shit out of myself with how easy that was.


And that information is scary how?


So it is you.

Awesome... we've just demonstrated how easy it is to find someone.




No, you didn't "find me."

North Raleigh/Wake Forest is a big place. Even if you did manage to find my address though, what incentive do you have to do anything? Many people know my name online and offline, and the same goes for other big names.

Any celebrity doesn't have to worry about people knowing their first/last name, why should I?



It wouldn't take much effort to find you specifically in that city. Really, it's just a matter of effort - and I'm not going to get myself in crap or forum banned just to prove a point.

Let's be realistic here, if someone really wanted to - they could. I've already shown the first steps are easy.

As for the celebrity thing, they deal with harassment on a constant basis, have you never seen the candid photos of celebs in their backyards that plaster magazines in the supermarket? Some famous people deal with this to the point where their safety is in jeopardy.

Of course I'm not saying that's going to be the case here... it's just possible. People have raged and killed other over crap they've said online. People do steal identities. People do harass others...

Why make it easier?
Furiosa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:39:25
July 06 2010 17:39 GMT
#279
Good luck ever getting a decent job when your posts on the forums show up near the top when someone googles your name.
sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
July 06 2010 17:39 GMT
#280
On July 07 2010 02:24 Kambing wrote:
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"Potential employers googling your name and declining because you play games"
I'm sorry but, if you meet the requirements of what they are looking for experience and skillwise, a google search on what you enjoy to do in your own time will not affect your chances of getting hired and if it does, it's against the law (Well, in Texas it is). Take them to court if you feel that the reason they did not hire you was because of a google search. They would have to explain the detail of your decline to the judge with ample proof and if it is not sufficient enough proof to back their reason, you have yourself a successful lawsuit ..


This is the naive view of what's going on. Practically speaking, many employers use google/facebook to find out information about applicants. Furthermore, they don't have to mention to you when you are "no hired" that they did such a search on you name. Even furthermore, there's a strong argument to be made that information via google/facebook is publicly available and thus admissible in such decisions (analogous to how an employer can judge you if you come drunk to an interview vs. professing your love of keggers and frat parties on your facebook page).


Very true. If you wanted to make your case even further you could say that in certain jobs it would be negligent not to find out all information available about a person you are trying to hire for a job with certain responsibilities. Employers can easily be sued for gross negligence for hiring, for example, a pizza delivery boy who has 3 prior DUI convictions. I'm not exactly sure how this would work for googling information about someone, just an argument that could be made.

Regarding Kambing's comment, I don't think you could successfully sue someone from accessing information that is so easily available to the public. It's not against the law anywhere in the US to type a name in google and browse through the results.

I think this whole non-anonymity trend that is going around the internet is worrisome. If it bothers you, like it does for me, I would just recommend giving out false names. Sounds like I'm going to need an alias for my internet alias... >.<
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