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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On April 20 2010 01:46 theramstoss wrote: Every male has to serve, so how would anyone be "advertised" into serving? Other than a very few number of people who volunteer, but those people want a career out of it? I kinda think he doesn't understand the whole concept of "mandatory service." | ||
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Prof. Protoss
Germany744 Posts
Sorry, that was stupid, I didn't think before writing. It still affects how young korean males think about the military though. Military acts are not a game. That's my point. Killing stuff with blood everywhere in starcraft is fun, in real life it's one of the ethically most problematic questions in life. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On April 20 2010 00:43 thedeadhaji wrote: iirc korean military has a soccer squad as well (I remember someone saying this when Ace was first formed,) idk about soccer but I know the army has a volleyball team. They're relatively much better than Airforce ACE (possibly because military fitness levels are useful for physical athletics) but still not contenders. | ||
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HeartOfTofu
United States308 Posts
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On April 20 2010 01:53 Prof. Protoss wrote: Shit I shot in my own foot. Sorry, that was stupid, I didn't think before writing. It still affects how young korean males think about the military though. Military acts are not a game. That's my point. Killing stuff with blood everywhere in starcraft is fun, in real life it's one of the ethically most problematic questions in life. You know, very few progamers actually apply for ace. This just shows that most of them knows that military is not a game. Only the most passionate ones who wishes to continue playing sc actually apply for ace. | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
However even if they didn't I would have to disagree with you. We have advertisements aimed at young people to join all branches of the military in the US (and i find it hard to believe you have none in Germany), and representatives visit most public high schools. The military offers many opportunities for many different people and if you have misgivings then don't join, simple as that. | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On April 20 2010 01:54 gogogadgetflow wrote: The fact that there is mandatory service in SK totally ruins your point... However even if they didn't I would have to disagree with you. We have advertisements aimed at young people to join all branches of the military in the US (and i find it hard to believe you have none in Germany), and representatives visit most public high schools. The military offers many opportunities for many different people and if you have misgivings then don't join, simple as that. I remember reading an article where one person entered the army to get glory like many people do in movies, only to find out that there is no real glory in the army. He makes friends only to have them blown up in a bomb attack the next day and most of them die unacknowledged. | ||
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Acies
Australia196 Posts
On April 20 2010 01:54 MuffinDude wrote: You know, very few progamers actually apply for ace. This just shows that most of them knows that military is not a game. Only the most passionate ones who wishes to continue playing sc actually apply for ace. The paticularly passionate ones are the only players who have a future in esport anyway. Also some number are able to dodge conscription through means such as enrollment in university. | ||
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Zhou
United States832 Posts
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Leath
Canada1724 Posts
Military duty is mandatory, so letting those pro gamers keep up with their work/passion is kind of a gift. Sure, they are promoting the military but I don't see anything wrong with that. You learn a lot of useful skills when you join, and although they might be under a heavy threat, they are not at war. Therefore, I see no problem with them advertising, it is a good advertisement, and if I had a kid I sure would hope he joins the military. =) | ||
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Laerties
United States361 Posts
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Gamjadori
Japan131 Posts
Adding on the Starcraft team was pretty natural, as the military already has teams for pretty much any other sport in order for players to be able continue playing their game while they serve. That's simple because serving for 2 years without playing would ruin their career. To coupe with the problem they created a bunch of teams for different sports. Starcraft is as much a sport as any in Korea so why'd it be strange to have a Starcraft team? Also, on a less serious note; How is losing all the time considered good advertisement? | ||
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
On April 19 2010 23:29 Prof. Protoss wrote: But still - how great would it have been if Boxer said sth like "I know I have to do my duty but I don't want to play broodwar for merchandising the military" Not great at all, then the most popular player in all of esports would not be seen/heard from in 2 full years? How is that a good thing at all? | ||
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
On April 20 2010 03:26 RyanS wrote: Not great at all, then the most popular player in all of esports would not be seen/heard from in 2 full years? How is that a good thing at all? Well Muhammad Ali did something like that at the peak of his career (though he was resisting the draft for a specific and particularly unpopular war) and a lot of people would agree that that was a good thing to do. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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cHicKeLoR
Germany559 Posts
Anyway, since it is mandatory I don't understand how it affects the youth in joining the army... they have to anyway... | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
Remember, you don't have to play for the ACE team if you don't want to. | ||
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zee
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