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On January 27 2010 09:37 D10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 09:36 BlackJack wrote:On January 27 2010 09:34 ilj.psa wrote:On January 27 2010 09:21 D10 wrote:On January 27 2010 09:08 StarsPride wrote:
i hope they rrealize society wont accept them, and i hope the law puts some bans on shit like this... And if u disagree with me.
Imagine dating them and finding out later on.
I dont know about u guys but i have enough worries going on, i don't want the possibility being that my girlfriend was actually a man. that is just..
o god
I rest my argument Thats the most stupid thing ive ever read, and ive read some pretty stupid shit! If the only reason you date your girlfriend is beceause she has a pussy just ask every woman you meet if shes not a shemale and you wont have problems. If I dated a girl and found out later shes a shemale I wouldnt care, firstly because I really dont care, and secondly because we should respects people choices and differences. A relationship is not about a dick meeting a pussy, its about 2 persons connecting into an intimate level. wtf?trust me 99% of males would. Can't be more common than Thailand or Samoa  He's from Brazil. Finding out your date has a penis is like a standard 3rd date there. jk  Altho its a joke, its more common than you imagine!
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On January 27 2010 09:58 D10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 09:45 BabyRhino wrote:
what are the the possible complications to the child??? respecting their sexuality is one thing, i mean, gay marriage cool, transgender, whatever... but is this fair to the unborn child? if there are clear risks of giving a child under such circumstances, is it a responsible decision to have a child? Hey, we are not going into horrible african genocide countries to stop people from being born with aids, lack of the most basic needs and etc... What gives us right to tell someone who will be able to give their child education, shelter, food, and etc... that they cant have a child when so many people all around the world are having child sub human conditions subjecting them all kind of enviromental trauma.
bringing an example of a child subject to horrible living conditions.won't make this case of a child in bads living conditions any better.you know?
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On January 27 2010 09:30 Fearliss wrote:
This is sick.
Two girls change into guys so they can marry each other. Why not just stay girls then?
.... because they aren't comfortable in their own bodies?
Do you truly believe that gender is nothing but our physical appearance? If your dick were to fall off (I am making the assumption that you are male) and your breasts grew into a C-cup overnight, would you be a-ok with living as a girl? I really doubt you would, as much of your personality and identity is characterized by your perception of yourself as male. Some people are unfortunate enough to have a disconnect between the gender they appear to be and what they feel they are. I'm sure you can imagine how awful that would make your life.
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Typical women imo, what wont they do to get attention :o
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On January 27 2010 10:12 EvilSky wrote:
Typical women imo, what wont they do to get attention :o
The asshole section is located on 4chan.
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On January 27 2010 10:06 ilj.psa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 09:58 D10 wrote:On January 27 2010 09:45 BabyRhino wrote:
what are the the possible complications to the child??? respecting their sexuality is one thing, i mean, gay marriage cool, transgender, whatever... but is this fair to the unborn child? if there are clear risks of giving a child under such circumstances, is it a responsible decision to have a child? Hey, we are not going into horrible african genocide countries to stop people from being born with aids, lack of the most basic needs and etc... What gives us right to tell someone who will be able to give their child education, shelter, food, and etc... that they cant have a child when so many people all around the world are having child sub human conditions subjecting them all kind of enviromental trauma. bringing an example of a child subject to horrible living conditions.won't make this case of a child in bads living conditions any better.you know?
To BabyRhino, what risks?
To ilj.psa what bad living conditions?
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On January 27 2010 07:34 nttea wrote:
i find it disturbing, but that's definitely my problem and not theirs. Good luck to them :p
Great response. This certainly isn't my cup of tea, but if they are happy, more power to them.
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On January 27 2010 06:40 Whiplash wrote:
So they were lesbians... and now they are gay.... and pregnant....
and wheezy...
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I feel sorry for the kid. His life is gonna be fucked up.
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beautiful love story! stop the flaming!
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On January 27 2010 10:06 ilj.psa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 09:58 D10 wrote:On January 27 2010 09:45 BabyRhino wrote:
what are the the possible complications to the child??? respecting their sexuality is one thing, i mean, gay marriage cool, transgender, whatever... but is this fair to the unborn child? if there are clear risks of giving a child under such circumstances, is it a responsible decision to have a child? Hey, we are not going into horrible african genocide countries to stop people from being born with aids, lack of the most basic needs and etc... What gives us right to tell someone who will be able to give their child education, shelter, food, and etc... that they cant have a child when so many people all around the world are having child sub human conditions subjecting them all kind of enviromental trauma. bringing an example of a child subject to horrible living conditions.won't make this case of a child in bads living conditions any better.you know?
No. He makes a valid point. There ARE many people out there who shouldn't be allowed to have kids based on their parenting skills and behaviour, but who do so anyway, so why should two nice transgendered people with good parenting skills not be allowed to have any? Besides, a sperm donor must have been involved, so the kids would really have a father as well.
However, I think my stance on this situation is that because society isn't ready to accept these two as parents, for the sake of their children being discriminated against, they should have at least looked into adoption first. I guess it's our evolutionary drive to replicate our genes, but I think we are smart enough to not be complete slaves to it.
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On January 27 2010 10:20 GogoKodo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 10:06 ilj.psa wrote:On January 27 2010 09:58 D10 wrote:On January 27 2010 09:45 BabyRhino wrote:
what are the the possible complications to the child??? respecting their sexuality is one thing, i mean, gay marriage cool, transgender, whatever... but is this fair to the unborn child? if there are clear risks of giving a child under such circumstances, is it a responsible decision to have a child? Hey, we are not going into horrible african genocide countries to stop people from being born with aids, lack of the most basic needs and etc... What gives us right to tell someone who will be able to give their child education, shelter, food, and etc... that they cant have a child when so many people all around the world are having child sub human conditions subjecting them all kind of enviromental trauma. bringing an example of a child subject to horrible living conditions.won't make this case of a child in bads living conditions any better.you know? To BabyRhino, what risks? To ilj.psa what bad living conditions?
my question exactly, is the kid going to be born like any other normal healthy baby? if there are sure complications that will come to this baby because of the circumstances under how its born, then my question is, is that responsible?
if the kid is going to be just as healthy as any other female born baby, then I guess they can do what they want. but fact is, despite normal health, the child will face hardship socially.
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On January 27 2010 10:33 Mastermind wrote:
I feel sorry for the kid. His life is gonna be fucked up.
Though it's a really weird situation, they aren't hurting anyone and I'm sure the child will have a much better upbringing then the vast majority of children born now.
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Like many said, the kid will get to face some shit...
They are under medical care so if the kid was going to have any medical problemas they would have said no to pregancy or abort it already.
Yes the kid will get bully because he has 2 dads that were moms before, but if they raise a mentally strong kid that shouldn't be a problem, they seem to have good economic situation so its good for them, kinda rare for me but hey everyones free to do their will as long it doesn't mess with others.
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likelihood of child being ugly?
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On January 27 2010 10:19 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 10:12 EvilSky wrote:
Typical women imo, what wont they do to get attention :o The asshole section is located on 4chan.
Oh yeah? What about the humorless cunt section? where is that ?
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On January 27 2010 11:00 EvilSky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 10:19 PanN wrote:On January 27 2010 10:12 EvilSky wrote:
Typical women imo, what wont they do to get attention :o The asshole section is located on 4chan. Oh yeah? What about the humorless cunt section? where is that ?
lol EvilSky. I missed your comment but it's so truuuuee 
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Hello, my name is Thomas Moore. The man who is married to the pregnant man. I have read a lot of disturbing comments on here about what I am, or what Scott is. So I thought honesty is the right route so lets get on with it.
First with me, yes I was born female. However at 18 I was diagnosed with a Syndrome called klinefelters. I have XXY as my chromosomal level. I made the choice at that time that I was male always felt male and chose to make my outsides match. Yes I had a uterus as well as a prostate. I was given no true path by god to follow. So I went with my heart had all the surgeries from hysterectomy to male chest reconstruction, even phalloplasty. I do not take hormones, I appear as my body functions.I was never defined as a lesbian, never like women. My transition was about me, about completing myself. I am not a freak, I am not a women mutilating my body to have children. I am simply a man, I have no breasts, no reproductive organs, I repaired my body after a birth defect.
As for Scott... yes he's transgendered and yes he's even pregnant. But unlike a lot of people. We wanted a child of our own. Made up of one of us. Logan and Gregg are adopted...apparently the state of California see's us as good parents. They know everything about us, our marriage everything. He's not ugly, I have thousands of pictures of this man. The poses were crap, the photographer wanted to show how big he had gotten. Scott really wants to have his female organs removed but there's be a huge hold up because he is so young
Further more I love the rude cracks about our children and how messed up they will be. How people feel sorry for them. They came form a very unloving, and hurt full place. They were failing out of School and had run in's with the law over and over again. These guys are now A and B students, never get in trouble and are thriving. The only trouble they have is with ignorant people and their children. Our sons are strong, love their brother and emotional well. If you are really concerned about their emotional well being get off your asses and teach tolerance. We never claimed to be the second. Their are hundreds maybe even thousand of transgendered family's in the world.
I am happy to talk to anyone and welcome the chance to help you better understand.
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