EPTSecond pregnant 'man' ? Wtf? - Page 8
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An ugly woman got pregnant. | ||
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WHY GOD WHY | ||
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Hanners
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Fuck all y'all. Bunch of haters. Those of you "worried about the kid" should consider why. Maybe because your hateful views are similar to most people's who are willing to be just as, if not more, vocal/active about it? The problem is not with these people, their conditions, or their choices. If no one else in the world existed and it was just that family, they would be relieved of a lot of their hardship. No. It sucks to be them because of people like 90% of the responders in this thread. Bunch of bigots who insist that their reality is the only one and considers any challenge to what they know to be "true" (how fucking pretentious is that?) to be a threat and instead of looking within themselves to truly question and understand *why* they find it disturbing, they prefer to sling mud at that perceived threat. I'm going to let you fucks in on a secret: YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT. You think you do and are so egotistical as to believe that you are "right" when in reality you don't have any first-hand knowledge or experience in most everything that you think you know. Your judgments are based on *nothing*. Weak-ass cowards. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
to do that one has to, you know, actually know them. but they do both look like men. | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On January 27 2010 16:28 Hanners wrote: You know what? Fuck all y'all. Bunch of haters. Those of you "worried about the kid" should consider why. Maybe because your hateful views are similar to most people's who are willing to be just as, if not more, vocal/active about it? The problem is not with these people, their conditions, or their choices. If no one else in the world existed and it was just that family, they would be relieved of a lot of their hardship. No. It sucks to be them because of people like 90% of the responders in this thread. Bunch of bigots who insist that their reality is the only one and considers any challenge to what they know to be "true" (how fucking pretentious is that?) to be a threat and instead of looking within themselves to truly question and understand *why* they find it disturbing, they prefer to sling mud at that perceived threat. I'm going to let you fucks in on a secret: YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT. You think you do and are so egotistical as to believe that you are "right" when in reality you don't have any first-hand knowledge or experience in most everything that you think you know. Your judgments are based on *nothing*. Weak-ass cowards. so you think its wrong to worry about a kid who will most likely be picked on? edit: all yall | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
On January 27 2010 06:40 Whiplash wrote: So they were lesbians... and now they are gay.... and pregnant.... lol! my first thoughts | ||
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Hanners
United States142 Posts
On January 27 2010 16:40 JohnColtrane wrote: so you think its wrong to worry about a kid who will most likely be picked on? edit: all yall I think it's wrong that the kid will be picked on at all. If the child is picked on (at all - highly dependent on if the parents make their transgendered status known to the public), it will most likely be by other children. Children of fathers who have wanked off to transsexual porn. Statistically speaking, transsexual porn is the highest selling porn on the market right now. Funny how transsexuals are good enough to be masturbated to, but not good enough to be treated with decency and respect. | ||
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uglymoose89
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JohnColtrane
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On January 27 2010 13:59 randombum wrote: How is she a "man" though? She was born a woman, still has woman sex organs, but she took hormones to look like a man. If anything, she's simply a very man looking woman. If he has a male mind and used hormones to make his body male, then why would you call him female? Sure the pregnancy thing is something I dont really understand, but everyone is weird. I'm more familiar with mtf transgender research, but studies have shown that females and mtf tgers have similar brains, which are different from both straight and gay males. IE, when someone says they are a "woman trapped in a man's body" or vice versa, they ain't making shit up. Studies are beginning to show that in the case of mtf-tg that during fetal development the brain isn't imprinted with testosterone (which would masculinize it). In some cases this is caused by an abnormal genetic sequence, where a certain part is longer than on a normal person and is believed to stop the imprinting. Some (quite a lot apparently) dont have this genetic alteration, so its unknown what causes it, probably hormonal fluctuations in the womb. People don't choose to be that way, and its not some sexual kink. Again, in the case of mtf (<1 percent of fetishized crossdressers/transvestites are eligible or apply for any kind of hormones/surgery) [didnt grab that 1% figure from my ass fwiw] Its a huge, embarassing, time consuming process that can really destroy your life. And the financial cost can be unbelievable. People do it because they have no choice. Multiple studies have show that the suicide attempt rate (actual attempt required, not just suicidal thoughts) hovers around 50% for mtf tgs. That means more than half have made a serious attempt to take their own life at some point, and many have done it multiple times. As far as actual suicides, the most conservative figures I've seen have it 10 times higher than the average group. If you really want to say you aren't a bigot and actually want to understand what its like before you judge them as being sick, I recommend you read http://open.salon.com/blog/hear_me_roar/2009/02/21/i_changed_sex_and_died its not exactly an untypical tg experience. more relevant to the main story, even though the pregnancy is weird, you can't really say they shouldnt have kids because the kids might have a bad childhood due to the parents gender/orientation. Doctors and psychologists are testifying at prop 8 trials pretty much right now that gay/straight people have just as good a chance of raising psychologically healthy children. I might personally believe children born in multiracial households will be psychologically unwell (whether I consider myself bigoted or not), but until there is some evidence of that, me saying "its immoral for a white woman and black man to have kids together" isnt exactly the height of reasonable statements. If anyone has any questions about tg, feel free to ask me, as I have first-hand experience. | ||
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Hanners
United States142 Posts
On January 27 2010 16:49 JohnColtrane wrote: somehow i wont believe that unless i see some figures I'm in the industry. Trans girls get paid more and their material sells better than "vanilla" porn on average (aside from well-established porn stars of course). | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On January 27 2010 16:57 Hanners wrote: I'm in the industry. Trans girls get paid more and their material sells better than "vanilla" porn on average (aside from well-established porn stars of course). Probably because there is less competition for trans porn actors. There are more prerequisites to become one.... | ||
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Suc
Australia1569 Posts
On January 27 2010 16:28 Hanners wrote: + Show Spoiler + You know what? Fuck all y'all. Bunch of haters. Those of you "worried about the kid" should consider why. Maybe because your hateful views are similar to most people's who are willing to be just as, if not more, vocal/active about it? The problem is not with these people, their conditions, or their choices. If no one else in the world existed and it was just that family, they would be relieved of a lot of their hardship. No. It sucks to be them because of people like 90% of the responders in this thread. Bunch of bigots who insist that their reality is the only one and considers any challenge to what they know to be "true" (how fucking pretentious is that?) to be a threat and instead of looking within themselves to truly question and understand *why* they find it disturbing, they prefer to sling mud at that perceived threat. I'm going to let you fucks in on a secret: YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT. You think you do and are so egotistical as to believe that you are "right" when in reality you don't have any first-hand knowledge or experience in most everything that you think you know. Your judgments are based on *nothing*. Weak-ass cowards. Because an intelligent argument always begins with insulting the other party. I'm going to let you in on a secret: it doesn't. It doesn't matter whether you think that this kid should not be picked on at all or why it will be, what matters is that it is going to happen no matter what. Moreover, discrimination will probably occur during adulthood if others find out about said child's situation. If you want to argue your point properly and have people take you seriously, you should probably state it a bit more clearly minus the insults. Also, (just reading further down) I agree with with JohnColtrane, where are your statistics? | ||
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