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DoctorHelvetica
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GogoKodo
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On January 27 2010 10:49 BabyRhino wrote: I don't see why it wouldn't be born the same as any other baby; the father's reproductive capabilities look to be that of a "regular" woman.my question exactly, is the kid going to be born like any other normal healthy baby? if there are sure complications that will come to this baby because of the circumstances under how its born, then my question is, is that responsible? if the kid is going to be just as healthy as any other female born baby, then I guess they can do what they want. but fact is, despite normal health, the child will face hardship socially. As for the hardships, meh. I'm sure lots of people had the same negative attitude towards interracial babies. That's not a good reason to stop them from having babies (I realize you didn't say this, but I think some people in the thread are leaning that way). | ||
Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
i have no issues with transgenders as i believe in freedom of choice, its their own life and body that they wish to desecrate if it is their choice then so be it. what i cannot stand is that these people claim with their twisted reasoning and logic to justify how their actions and choice are "normal" and should be "accepted" by the general populace. and how they abuse the term "ignorance" and "open-minded" is disgusting, were they not the people that were ignorant about their own sexual orientation? were they not the one's that cannot accept who they truly are? (unless if ur a hermaphrodite). there are lines in nature and humanity that u do not cross, u crossed it now u have accept the consequence of ur own free choice. they became an abomination of nature by choice, and they will rightfully be branded as such. i respect the courage(or stupidity, it goes both ways) of these people to go through with their own choice in life, and it made them a happier person probably... this is not an adventure in some fairy tale after u go through loads of bullshit to achieve ur goals finally things will end in "happily ever after". they do not deserve any sympathy, but pity... | ||
seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote: so who is the real father, ie:sperm doner? of this child... or did i miss some abominable scientific breakthrough that allows 2 females that tries to pretend to be males, to have children like a normal family unit? uhhh... Y chromosomes are useless. You take an X from a woman and another X from a woman and BAM! female baby. i have no issues with transgenders as i believe in freedom of choice, its their own life and body that they wish to desecrate if it is their choice then so be it. what i cannot stand is that these people claim with their twisted reasoning and logic to justify how their actions and choice are "normal" and should be "accepted" by the general populace. and how they abuse the term "ignorance" and "open-minded" is disgusting, were they not the people that were ignorant about their own sexual orientation? were they not the one's that cannot accept who they truly are? (unless if ur a hermaphrodite). there are lines in nature and humanity that u do not cross, u crossed it now u have accept the consequence of ur own free choice. they became an abomination of nature by choice, and they will rightfully be branded as such. So who someone truly is is based on whether they have a penis or a vagina? It has nothing to do with hormone levels that cause them to develop a female/male brain and identify as one in the other's body? What are these so-called "lines u do not cross" and who picks them? You? The Bible? The majority? Fuck that. | ||
mmp
United States2130 Posts
On January 27 2010 06:21 valaki wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1246153/Second-pregnant-man-Scott-Moore-birth-baby-boy-month.html A pic (kinda disturbing): (note : they were/are still WOMEN, just took hormones..lots of them) + Show Spoiler + ![]() I don't really know what to say....Thoughts? I don't really find that so disturbing. Maybe cause I'm surrounded by weirdos in real life. | ||
Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote: so who is the real father, ie:sperm doner? of this child... or did i miss some abominable scientific breakthrough that allows 2 females that tries to pretend to be males, to have children like a normal family unit? i have no issues with transgenders as i believe in freedom of choice, its their own life and body that they wish to desecrate if it is their choice then so be it. what i cannot stand is that these people claim with their twisted reasoning and logic to justify how their actions and choice are "normal" and should be "accepted" by the general populace. and how they abuse the term "ignorance" and "open-minded" is disgusting, were they not the people that were ignorant about their own sexual orientation? were they not the one's that cannot accept who they truly are? (unless if ur a hermaphrodite). there are lines in nature and humanity that u do not cross, u crossed it now u have accept the consequence of ur own free choice. they became an abomination of nature by choice, and they will rightfully be branded as such. i respect the courage(or stupidity, it goes both ways) of these people to go through with their own choice in life, and it made them a happier person probably... this is not an adventure in some fairy tale after u go through loads of bullshit to achieve ur goals finally things will end in "happily ever after". they do not deserve any sympathy, but pity... thanks for being so awesome and understanding, nothing like calling people abominations and giving them your pity. | ||
TwoSugarsAndACream
Canada21 Posts
On January 27 2010 13:10 seppolevne wrote: uhhh... Y chromosomes are useless. You take an X from a woman and another X from a woman and BAM! female baby. So who someone truly is is based on whether they have a penis or a vagina? It has nothing to do with hormone levels that cause them to develop a female/male brain and identify as one in the other's body? What are these so-called "lines u do not cross" and who picks them? You? The Bible? The majority? Fuck that. That's not how the reproductive system works....it's not as simple as X and Y....takes 23 pairs to make a cell not 2. The question here is where did the sperm come from? We can't just merge 2 eggs and get a baby....and both of them have eggs only unless SOMEWHERE they obtained a set of testes to produce their own sperm, so then why dont u just adopt a baby?? It's defnitely not natural (IMO) for a man to have babies....but then again, nothing is natural about this topic | ||
armed_
Canada443 Posts
On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote: i have no issues with transgenders as i believe in freedom of choice On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote: abominable On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote: twisted On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote: disgusting On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote: an abomination of nature You cannot claim to believe in freedom of choice and then proceed to label those who choose differently from you as inhuman. | ||
Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On January 27 2010 13:39 armed_ wrote: You cannot claim to believe in freedom of choice and then proceed to label those who choose differently from you as inhuman. yes i can, it is called opinion? when i say i believe in freedom of choice, i mean i believe its ok for u to do wateva the fuck u wan with ur body/property as long as it doesn't infringe on my rights, i may not agree with what u r doing with ur life, but i will certainly acknowledge ur freedom to do so and will not interfere or prohibit ur pursuit. | ||
selboN
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On January 27 2010 13:37 TwoSugarsAndACream wrote: That's not how the reproductive system works....it's not as simple as X and Y....takes 23 pairs to make a cell not 2. Lol thanks for clearing that up. The question I was answering was the "scientific breakthrough that allowed two women to have children" which would be cloning. Not that it's happening here but it would. | ||
seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On January 27 2010 13:37 TwoSugarsAndACream wrote: The question here is where did the sperm come from? We can't just merge 2 eggs and get a baby....and both of them have eggs only unless SOMEWHERE they obtained a set of testes to produce their own sperm, so then why dont u just adopt a baby?? It's defnitely not natural (IMO) for a man to have babies....but then again, nothing is natural about this topic And as for that second part, once again, maybe not happening here, but look up parthenogenesis. | ||
GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On January 27 2010 13:37 TwoSugarsAndACream wrote: That's not how the reproductive system works....it's not as simple as X and Y....takes 23 pairs to make a cell not 2. The question here is where did the sperm come from? We can't just merge 2 eggs and get a baby....and both of them have eggs only unless SOMEWHERE they obtained a set of testes to produce their own sperm, so then why dont u just adopt a baby?? It's defnitely not natural (IMO) for a man to have babies....but then again, nothing is natural about this topic Maybe you should try reading the article. It plainly states that sperm was donated by a male friend. | ||
randombum
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Sigh
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On January 27 2010 13:59 randombum wrote: How is she a "man" though? She was born a woman, still has woman sex organs, but she took hormones to look like a man. If anything, she's simply a very man looking woman. He is a man because that's how he's identified. When talking about issues like this sex is one thing, gender is another. His sex may very well be female (or just some portion of him), but for societal and self purposes he is a man. | ||
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NeCroPoTeNce
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