EPTSecond pregnant 'man' ? Wtf? - Page 9
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On January 27 2010 17:06 fight_or_flight wrote: Probably because there is less competition for trans porn actors. There are more prerequisites to become one.... No, but I've seen from multiple places that transexual porn is generally among the highest selling/renting porn sold at adult stores. Not saying every guy is into it, but its definitely a sizable number. | ||
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lOvOlUNiMEDiA
United States643 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On January 27 2010 17:07 fight_or_flight wrote: So do massive amounts of male hormones screw a baby up? no, since the male hormones are stopped before/during pregnancy. If they were to continue to take hormones before/during pregnancy, then probably, but one of the side effects of giving male hormones to females is the stopping of menstruation and obviously then no pregnancy is possible in that state. I would be more worried about the ovaries entering some kind of atrophy, but I dont know if they would for sure. On the flip side, a male taking female hormones for even a short length of time will be made permanently sterile. Even if they stop for whatever reason, its too late and they will simply be incapable of producing viable sperm (or much sperm at all for that matter) | ||
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Hanners
United States142 Posts
On January 27 2010 17:06 Suc wrote: Because an intelligent argument always begins with insulting the other party. I'm going to let you in on a secret: it doesn't. It doesn't matter whether you think that this kid should not be picked on at all or why it will be, what matters is that it is going to happen no matter what. Moreover, discrimination will probably occur during adulthood if others find out about said child's situation. If you want to argue your point properly and have people take you seriously, you should probably state it a bit more clearly minus the insults. Also, (just reading further down) I agree with with JohnColtrane, where are your statistics? "The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house" -Audre Lorde I will not bow down to a thread full of people who have been so disrespectful and plead for consideration. Oppressors are not deserving of my respect. I am not trying to have an intelligent argument (mostly because that is not possible on the interwebz and is a complete fallacy to try) You do realize that you are asking that these people validate their existence to you, right? Do you have *any* idea how degrading, humiliating, and insulting that is? Do you not see through your own words? Moreover, discrimination will probably occur during adulthood if others find out about said child's situation. Do you not see what is wrong with this? How does it not enrage you that someone is destined to be subjected to prejudice, discrimination, and hate because of who and what they are? Does it not occur to you that maybe a perspective shift is what is required? Try on some compassion. I'm sure if you were in his position, you wouldn't want to be subjected to the aforementioned horridness of society. In fact, I'm sure you'd prefer that it wasn't even an issue worthy of attention or note at all. Unfortunately, I do not have a statistics page set up for sales. I only go by what producers tell me. | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On January 27 2010 17:06 Suc wrote: Because an intelligent argument always begins with insulting the other party. I'm going to let you in on a secret: it doesn't. It doesn't matter whether you think that this kid should not be picked on at all or why it will be, what matters is that it is going to happen no matter what. Moreover, discrimination will probably occur during adulthood if others find out about said child's situation. If you want to argue your point properly and have people take you seriously, you should probably state it a bit more clearly minus the insults. Also, (just reading further down) I agree with with JohnColtrane, where are your statistics? This kid isn't gonna get picked on "no matter what". There is nothing intrinsically wrong with him. S/he will get picked on because people are jerks and don't like anything that's different from their closed-off little world. | ||
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Hanners
United States142 Posts
On January 27 2010 17:44 JohnColtrane wrote: hanners what do you do in the industry? I am a model/performer. On the flip side, a male taking female hormones for even a short length of time will be made permanently sterile. Even if they stop for whatever reason, its too late and they will simply be incapable of producing viable sperm (or much sperm at all for that matter) Not true. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On January 27 2010 17:40 R0YAL wrote: this kinda stuff is kind of disturbing :x Not the slightest >.> | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
I mean, really. | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/26/article-1246153-08054EAC000005DC-191_468x421.jpg) That kid looks like a young Christian Bale in The Machinist.... | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On January 27 2010 17:22 Hanners wrote: "The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house" -Audre Lorde I will not bow down to a thread full of people who have been so disrespectful and plead for consideration. Oppressors are not deserving of my respect. I am not trying to have an intelligent argument (mostly because that is not possible on the interwebz and is a complete fallacy to try) You do realize that you are asking that these people validate their existence to you, right? Do you have *any* idea how degrading, humiliating, and insulting that is? Do you not see through your own words? Do you not see what is wrong with this? How does it not enrage you that someone is destined to be subjected to prejudice, discrimination, and hate because of who and what they are? Does it not occur to you that maybe a perspective shift is what is required? Try on some compassion. I'm sure if you were in his position, you wouldn't want to be subjected to the aforementioned horridness of society. In fact, I'm sure you'd prefer that it wasn't even an issue worthy of attention or note at all. Unfortunately, I do not have a statistics page set up for sales. I only go by what producers tell me. he isnt commenting on whether or not he thinks discrimination should occur or not, he is just saying it most likely will. i dont know, i see gender based on your physical status rather than what you believe yourself to be. of course, people can do whatever they want with their bodies but i cant say that i am personally thrilled about it | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9020 Posts
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On January 27 2010 18:40 Garnet wrote: So the child isn't quite "theirs" because the sperm is donated by a male friend. I would say adoptation might not have been a bad choice. But what do I know. Theyre proboably not eligible to adopt I think, just guessing though. | ||
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
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Hanners
United States142 Posts
On January 27 2010 18:37 JohnColtrane wrote: he isnt commenting on whether or not he thinks discrimination should occur or not, he is just saying it most likely will. i dont know, i see gender based on your physical status rather than what you believe yourself to be. of course, people can do whatever they want with their bodies but i cant say that i am personally thrilled about it ...and he, like many, will stand apathetically by while this person is subjected to this adversity. Your perspective is one based off of "I don't understand it so I do not validate it." There seems to be this idea that people go through this because it is fun and exciting or that they are sexual perverts. Shit's not true. Transition is one of the most unpleasant and painful things that a person can experience. You risk losing everything (family, friends, job, etc.). It is a choice. But for many the choice is either to live or to kill themselves. Unfortunately, fully half or more choose the latter option. The American Medical Association recognizes transsexualism as a legitimate condition. The solution acknowledged is transition, therapy, hormones, and surgery. Regardless, most insurance companies still refuse to cover these treatments. Therapists and doctors require transitioners to live at least one (often *two*) year(s) in the role of the gender they are transitioning to regardless of their "passability" before surgery is authorized. This is a process put in place to ensure that the person transitioning can withstand the hate, discrimination, and prejudices of society. Many suicides, suicide attempts, assaults and murders occur during this time period. If you make it past all that and if you manage to save up enough money (anywhere from $15k-$100k depending on how sloppy of a job you are willing to subject your body to) on your own either through sex work or, funnily enough, the IT industry (because most businesses discriminate), then you are given the letters of reference to go through with it. You are then subjected to several months (years even) of recovery. After all this shit, you are still expected to disclose your history and status to whom it may concern and subject yourself to the same bigotry and hatefulness that you've been experiencing your whole life. People don't understand this. They'd rather write transsexuals off as freaks and perverts. That they're "sick in the head." That they are "confused." If only they knew how horrifying the experience is. Maybe they'd get a clue as to why "that tranny bitch is crazy!" They may be crazy, but they understand themselves better than most could possibly hope to. They appreciate life more than most are capable of. They have to fight for everything and nothing is given to them. On January 27 2010 19:05 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: The lack of tolerance for other opinions amongst the ones here preaching tolerance is incredible and hilarious. The difference is that the "opinions" being preached against are merely prejudice based off of insecurity and baseless hate. People don't get ostracized from society from preferring red over blue or thinking mustard is better than ketchup. Transsexuals get murdered for who they are so kindly, go fuck yourself. | ||
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Ricjames
Czech Republic1047 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Well there are a lot smaller things in history that people were picked on/even killed because of. This shit is gross and i reprobate that. If someone feels offended, then i guess it is true. Racism is a lot bigger issue than this and there are less people racist than thinking this is not right... | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
 god why would any want to do this? ;| | ||
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